Beyond Reality discussion

Well, we're are currently reading the Honor Harrington series and I'd describe that as heroic sci-fi.

I really like that sort of book myself, Logan.

The Forever Hero (a trilogy) & Timediver's Dawn & The Timegod by L.E. Modesitt Jr. fit the bill. His Ecologic series (4 books) also fits.

Today We Choose Faces, Doorways in the Sand, Coils, Damnation Alley by Roger Zelazny also fits. Both of these authors write fantasy, too.

I really enjoy the Rings of the Master series by Jack Chalker - first book is Lords of the Middle Dark. I think they're out of print, unfortunately, but they shouldn't be too hard to find used. They're not especially thought-provoking, but boy are they fun :)

I think that a lot of the military science fiction out there will fit your bill. Check out David Drake's RCN series (book 1: With the Lightnings), Jack Campbell's The Lost Fleet (book 1: Dauntless (this is quite a bit like Battlestar Galactica imo). The Seafort Saga by David Feintuch also comes highly recommended (book 1: Midshipman's Hope). I'd also have to second the Honor Harrington series, bearing in mind that most of these are cut from the same cloth.

Shel wrote: "I really enjoy the Rings of the Master series by Jack Chalker - first book is Lords of the Middle Dark. I think they're out of print, unfortunately, but they shouldn't be too hard to find used. T..."

Chalker's Lords of the Diamond are good, too. The 4 books start with Lilith: A Snake in the Grass. A lot of people liked his Nathan Brazil books, too.

Might consider Elizabeth Moon's Vatta's War or Serrano Legacy series.

If you are interested in some very classic space opera, my husband adores E.E. "Doc" Smith's Lensmen series.

Added - Husband has also mentioned E.E. "Doc" Smith's Skylark series.

How about Old Man's War?

I'm mostly watching. I really enjoy "heroic" fantasy. By that I mean fantasy centering on a hero who struggles in a battle of good and evil, even if he or she has a struggle within themselves. I love Moon's The Deed of Paksenarrion by same token among my favorites are David Gemmell's Waylander books, about an assassin after he's realized the damage he did. I'm hard pressed to find science fiction with that theme.

I like many of the books listed here, and a few I haven't read (going on my TBR list). Not sure I'd go with many (I really like Old Man's War for example, but wouldn't call it a good vs. evil battle). The Lost Fleet books may be that in some ways. Still I'd like to find a good science fiction epic along those lines.

I'll list one should I find it...till then I'll watch and hope one of you aims me to it. Thanks :)

I'm deep into the Liaden universe books and think Crystal Soldier and Crystal Dragon are both "good vs evil" and might fit this theme?

Thanks. Let me know what you think.

By the way, the trilogy is sometimes listed as books 3 through 5 but the first 2 are prequels and not (in my opinion of course) nearly as good as the trilogy. I'd hate for you to get turned off without reading the trilogy. The first 2 take place many, many years in the past and don't relate directly to the story in The Deed of Paksenarrion.

Jim, I've liked most all I've read by Modesitt so I'll try to run down the ones you list. Thanks.