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Jem changes in many ways in the course of the novel. What do you think of him as a brother and as a son? Comment your ideas and that of your classmates.

In the begining of the novel Jem was a good son but a little bad brother, I don't like when Dill and Jem went to play together and expelled Scout or when they went to the school and Jem didn't want to walk with Scout. I think in those cases, Jem was bad brother but It was only in the begining, because after that He didn't care about the people of the school.
And in almost each chapter Jem and Scout had an interesting adventures and Jem always cared of Scout in some ways and we can see that He loves his sister but in anormal kind.
Also when He grew up, We can see he is very smart and respects others decitions as the secret past of Atticus when he was young, but in some aspects He didn't do that his father said, So.. I can conclude Jem is a good person with good heart and is good son but He need a little discipline. I would like to have a son like him.

Well, Jem as a brother, he sometimes didn´t want to stay with his sister may be because he wants to stay more with his friends and doesn´t want his sister embarrassed him, but is not because he doesn´t like Sacout, I think is normal that oldest children don´t want to look after their youngest brother or sister like a mother I think.
He as a son, he is a good son, but as a child he likes adventures and sometimes he disobey his father, because Atticus doesn´t want he and Dill bother Boo Radley, but he is growing up and is understanding many things, I like his personality, because he learns many values for example the respect for the other, not discriminate the people by the skin, social class, and now he is changing because he sees the reality of the society.

Jem is a normal boy for his age, wants to be independant and looking for adventure.
It is curious and wants to discover the world in its own way , is also protective of his sister Scout, in moments aren't understood but will be unable to leave alone and in danger to her sister !!
Is the leader in games and and wise in making decisions. :)
And struggle to reach the end of his doubts !
As every child is disobedient, but a good son and he always supports his father for maybr often dosen't understand the meaning of things..
Over time he's learn more about life family and values the differences between good and evil and prepares for the future maybe...
It's a really interesting boy,!

rossana wrote :and now he is changing because he sees the reality of the society.
I agree because over time you learn more about the life and society and realize how things really are!!
can be good or bad, we learn of them make us stronger!
Things always happen for a reason

Jem has a nice evolution in the story. On the first chapters he's a good boy, he likes to play together with Scout and Dill, sometimes he gets in trouble. During the summer he shows that he doesn't like to be with Scout anymore, maybe because she's a small little girl and he wants to be with children of his age. But is when Dill runs away and arrives in the Finch place when she shows that Jem had already adquired the conciousness that eventually lead to the adult way of thinking, something we can notice in Tom's trial. Now Jem is beggining to understand people and their circunstances as a grown boy, and he's very smart, too.
He's a good brother because he takes care of her sister, although he doesn't appear to because boys demonstrate less concern. He's a good son, and he tries to understand his father's ideas, but he's still very ingenuous to see that the life is not as fair as it should be.

ok.. Jem present in the story some changes, maybe in my opinion is according to his age.. because he's in process of grow up and that have influence in his attitude, because when the story start he's a child who doesn't like stay in one place, he need to move in one place to other place and in that way he broke his arm... he present a normal characterize or behave of the old brother has brother with his younger sister, to worried about what the other kids can think if they see him with his sister, sometimes he's embarrased others for ex: his father age, and next he started to understand more less the thing,, maybe his thinking is maturing and he has a special love about his father , he care him and his sister because he doesn't like Scout hear something it can bad for her, he changes because until he play , he's mischevious child, who doesn't like so much Dill in my opinion, but nowadays jem try to accompany his father, and he worried about the other people, he became more sensible..!

Rebeca: I like your idea
He's a good son, and he tries to understand his father's ideas, but he's still very ingenuous to see that the life is not as fair as it should be.
I agree with you, yeah he's a good son , who admired his father, because Atticus can be consider him how hero, in some case the children always considered their fathers as exemplo, and Jem has a very good ex. he doesn't have his mother and care his sister is very noble... grow up with adventures and enjoy the chilhood that's some things , I admire in Jem's life.

good point I like Rosana:
because he learns many values for example the respect for the other, not discriminate the people by the skin, social class, and now he is changing because he sees the reality of the society.
I think that Jem behavior can be copy by others, because it's a good ex, and in some case our evil real of society do our childs or with force their changes more faster them, in some case has a good or bad influences, I think , nowadays we have fathers and mothers who go outside to work and left their children in their house and they do what they want, and they have to be more careful, because the children any time can do or enter in problems..! that's is the reason of why the dialogue is very important!!! to check in what condition they are, to correct if they were in wrong ways because they are in a process, and they need the parents join in that, to have conscious about it!

We can say that Jem grew up in the story so much, because in te begining He was like a normal children that don't like to be with their sisters or something like that, so, I think now, He is a Kind of example of agood son and brother, because, He take care of Scout and do what his father tell him, or when He wants, because He sometimes realize that his father need him, so He goes to help him, like when Cunninhams want to kill Tom Robinson, he realize that his father was in trouble, so He stay with him, and also we have to say, that now, He recognize many things about adults life, like about Boo Radley, and why people act in that way, for example in the trial of Tom Robinson, I think for o child of this age, sometimes is difficult to understand, now for example many children don't care about anything of this kind of problems, He's a good boy, because He take care of Scout, and also take care of Dill.

RaquelGonzalez wrote: "He changes because until he play , he's mischevious child, who doesn't like so much Dill in my opinion, but nowadays jem try to accompany his father, and he worried about the other people, he became more sensible..!"

Can be that Jem still like Dill in the way that He is, the matter is that Jem became a serious child, because He is growing up, and I like in the part that you said that He become more sensible about persons, yes, good point, because now he realize and He begining to understand about many problems, I have to say that I like how Jem is now, maybe because now He show what He will be in the future.

Rachel wrote:
that's is the reason of why the dialogue is very important!! what condition to check in. They are, to correct if wrong in Ways They Were Because They Are in a process, and They need the parents join in That, To Have conscious about it!
Good point! dialogue plays an important role in society and more in family..
Dialogue between parent and child builds trust and respect, son and this allows for good coexistence in conjunction with all values, and this makes us a better person everyday maybe.

Rosana wrote: "Well, Jem as a brother, he sometimes didn´t want to stay with his sister may be because he wants to stay more with his friends and doesn´t want his sister embarrassed him, but is not because he doe..."

"now he is changing because he sees the reality of the society"

I see that Jem's changing, that's good because now he can understand how the real world can be different to the ideal world, I would like that when he grow up he can keep the nice ideas he has about equality, because it's very possible that people can hurt him, like Atticus... I think Jem would fight for his ideals.

As a brother, Jem in the beginning of the story, he was a boy with a strong character, he didn`t want to be with Scout, except in the summer. He thought more in what the people, his friends would said if he was with his little sister. Before, in some part of the story he tried bad to Scout but then when he grow up he started to understand more about the life, he demonstrated more affection to Scout, he really changed a lot in the story.
As a son, Jem was a good son, but in some part he didn`t do what his father said to him, but… when his father said to him to went home, when Atticus was in the middle of a lynching party and Jem did not go home, I agree with Jem, because I understand him, he was afraid of what could happened to his father… so I think he is a son that every father would want to have.

Rosana wrote: I like his personality, because he learns many values for example the respect for the other, not discriminate the people by the skin, social class, and now he is changing because he sees the reality of the society.

I agree with you-* I also like Jem`s personality, because in his life he learn a lot, I think more then other boy of his age would learn, he already learn about the racism, that is not good to discriminate other people because of their skin color, the economic situation and many other ways… I like his change, because he changed of good to excellent.

Rebecca: He's a good brother because he takes care of her sister, although he doesn't appear to because boys demonstrate less concern.

That`s true… because I know many boys that doesn`t want to be with their little sisters because they think that is more for a girl to be whit their sisters… but also there are boys who really love and care their sisters like Jem.

Raquel wrote: ”he care him and his sister because he doesn't like Scout hear something it can bad for her”.
I agree with you, because Jem shows in his attitude that is better to Scout doesn´t know about delicate something like the rape, this kind of issues are difficult for a child to understand, so he Is doing the best to help his family.

At the beginning of the story Jem was a good son, who liked to play with his friends and spend the rest of the day playing with them, but he did not want to be with Scout because he did not want to be embarrassed by her.
I think that's normal for older brothers because they generally are more independent, they like to do the things in their own way and they don’t want to interrupt them. But he has always been caring for Scout even though he does not want to be with her.
Jem also has gotten into some trouble for his antics with his friends, they love everything that is related to Boo Radley. But Jem is now growing and I think he’s realizing that the reality of society and that life is not as easy as a child thinks.

Jem Finch changes considerably over the course of the novel. At first you see him as Scout's playmate, but when the children start school, Jem started more understanding of the difference in age between himself and his sister. He doesn't want her to embarrass him in front of his fifth-grade friends. And later he and Dill develop a friendship from which Scout is partly excluded because she is a girl., only because that but we can say that he is a good brother because what he did was to took care of her and the jealousy reflected for Scout is the same as brother one.

Jem is also the more thoughtful and introverted of the Finch children, maybe because he was boy and the oldest too, Jem seems determined to obey his father's request to avoid fighting. Later, at the time of the trial, Jem's optimistic view of human nature becomes apparent. He is probably the only person in town who really believes that justice will be done and Tom Robinson found innocent. So, I can apreciate that growth did improve him as a son.

Jem not want anything to do with Scout at school I understand he because went you have your litle sister or brother is boring because you can't stay at ease with your friends ,is a intelligent boy ,creative ,funny.
I think because he is the older brother of Scout and therefore he think diferent of she, in something part he doesn't want to do what he father say but this are normal because everyone do that.but the most important I think for we describe he is HE IS OPTIMISTIC BOY.

Kathia wrote:”can be good or bad, we learn of them make us stronger!
Things always happen for a reason”. I agree with you, this story shows us the different ways that people react with the difficulties, like Jem, he is an especial boy because he is feeling with his father the sadness about the injustice by Tom´s case, but the things always happen for a reason, and in that case would be interpreted, the life isn´t color pink and there proof that we have to pass for fortify ourselves.

Kathia wrote: ‘’Jem is a normal boy for his age, wants to be independant and looking for adventure….’’

I agree with you, also think that children are so, they don’t think about others and are very curious, they like to discover new things, that's normal because we were all children and were thinking of playing with our friends and have fun.

Jeremy Finch is an interesting boy. He grew with his sister and he tries to protect her, that's nice. When he was a child he was a reliable one, then he became a boy and began to understand how the world works, he realized it wasn't as it seemed before...
Scout used to embarrass him at school, now she's like a company who he seems to need sometimes.

Karen wrote: "We can say that Jem grew up in the story so much, because in te begining He was like a normal children that don't like to be with their sisters or something like that, so, I think now, He is a Kind..."
Yes Karen, the he's beginning to see Maycomb, his society... I think those sort of things really change the children who is growing, it is what makes the difference in life, it gives us the light to see what way follow; because of that I think it's important to keep the integrity of the children until they can choose their way to live, not leave them too early or too late, it might change them for bad... The children are the future because they're the future adolescent of the world.

We can see he is very smart and respects others decisions as the secret past of Atticus when he was young, that is right Liz, with this Jem showed us a grade of maturing that he was going develop.

Over time he's learn more about life family and values the differences between good and evil and prepares for the future maybe... Good point Katia, there is another important thing that we can teach to our relatives for enjoy fullness of life.

Ok all along the book we saw the way of playful a kid that felt ashamed if his sister and got in trouble grown in to a good son that understands his father, that likes to take care of his sister scout and spport his friend Dill, a boy that can handle problems that life presents and has strong principles like his father; he maybe will end hurt because of his beliefs but he will stand with them.

I agree with the gilrs that Jem is in a natural process of maturity so his would like more independence but also is more patient and protective with Scout

Rosana wrote:"I like his personality, because he learns many values for example the respect for the other, not discriminate the people by the skin, social class, and now he is changing because he sees the reality of the society."

I like this thinking. I already said it, but you add some better words for your description.. He had a good education, too.

Kathia wrote:"Jem is a normal boy for his age, wants to be independant and looking for adventure.
It is curious and wants to discover the world in its own way"

I think you're right, because in all the chapters He always try to know or discover something specifically about his father or Boo Radly.

Rebecca wrote:"Jem has a nice evolution in the story."

I agree with you.. We can notice How Jem change a lot.

"he's still very ingenuous to see that the life is not as fair as it should be."

But I can't agree with these words, because I think he is older to see How is the world with its positive and negatives aspect.

Raquel wrote: "but nowadays jem try to accompany his father, and he worried about the other people, he became more sensible..!"

I like this book, because show us very clear the emotion of this boy. Also I can notice that Jem worried about others people as in Tom's trial.

Well.. I think Jem's character is normal, he's a young boy and has the opportunity to learn. I don't know what to say because he takes his sister get in trouble every time..but that's good they play together and I feel he takes care of his sister so. He's a little disobedient, but as I said is normal. He grew up so he got the maturity, he wanted to be next his father, helping him and feels worried. Sometimes he's tough with his sister, Scout. But that's maybe because he didn't have the image of a mother. So, he acts so with his sister. As a son, I think he tries to be a good boy, he wanted to protect his father. As any boy, he sees him as a hero, he could sometimes be disobedient but through story I realized that he acted as the old brother, I mean he acted more responsible..

Liz said... '' I don't like when Dill and Jem went to play together and expelled Scout or when they went to the school and Jem didn't want to walk with Scout. I think in those cases, Jem was bad brother..'' I think Jem is right. However she is his sister, she must learn to be with children, how to act and treat to folks, nobody can go around her every time and takes care of her. It doesn't matter if is her first time, for example if you go out , your sister or brother can't go behind you and do all for you.

Rebeca said ''He's a good son, and he tries to understand his father's ideas, but he's still very ingenuous to see that the life is not as fair as it should be '' . I agree with you, he's young to understand all what's going on, but we notice his father gave him a good education, he could be disobedient, playful but he's very good, smart, and never would do something bad, he doesn't have that intention.

In the beginning of the story, Jem maybe is a good son, he respected his father, etc. But he wasn't a good brother at all. It's comprehensible because well, Jem is older than Scout and he doesn't want her to embarrass him. But as the story continues, Jem is maturing, he began to understand more things, he started to be more responsible, maybe tries to help his father with his little sister and also, tries to be "fair" with his sister.

Rebecca wrote: "Jem has a nice evolution in the story. On the first chapters he's a good boy, he likes to play together with Scout and Dill, sometimes he gets in trouble. During the summer he shows that he doesn't..."

I agree :-) Jem had an amazing evolution in the story, he'd begun being unconscious and ended being "a man", in the way he thinks.

Jem is a typical older brother, it's not only in the story, that we can see sometimes in the real life too.
I think that in the beginnig he was more friendly with Scout, and he played with his little sister but, when he think more different than her, he started to reject her, and may be that happen because he start to be mature, and like to do some differents things with his friends, and like a older brother he doesn't want Scout does the same things that he does!

Hilda wrote: "when the children start school, Jem started more understanding of the difference in age between himself and his sister. He doesn't want her to embarrass him in front of his fifth-grade friends. "
I agree with you Hilda!
That really happen, the older brother doesn't want his little sister and why not his little brother, share the same friendships, may be because his sister know a lot of things of him that he doesn't want his friends know, and if they know that they can circumvent of him!

Hilda wrote: Jem's optimistic view of human nature becomes apparent. He is probably the only person in town who really believes that justice will be done and Tom Robinson found innocent. So, I can apreciate that growth did improve him as a son.
Jem's optimistic view of human nature becomes apparent. He is probably the only person in town who really believes that justice will be done and Tom Robinson found innocent. So, I can apreciate that growth did improve him as a son.
I agree with you idea!! it's true, Jem has a peculiar characterize what is do him unique,!!! he hope, his father can win the trial, he used his right how a maycomb citizen, because he think he has right to know what happen in aroun him in his society, and go, he's outgoing, go try to have his ocurrences, he's special with his thinking,special imagination is goind down, becuase he's process of grown and some thing change, maybe I THINK that is for age influence!!! carry its!

rebeca: He's a good son, and he tries to understand his father's ideas, but he's still very ingenuous to see that the life is not as fair as it should be.
I like your phrase, he show us ,he's a good son, when he feel his father was in danger, he doesn't left him, he stay there , present in the lynching party, and when he admire Atticus and understand what he's real role in the society , in addition he was too a good brother who sometimes embarrased when other see him , with his little sister, but he worried about her, because he care her, and accompany her in halloween's party. he's innocent , who has dreams! who receiver a hurt and broke his arm, and kill one part of him, I think because you are a different , your aspect be the position of your arms different and the other childrens can do you get upset! paid for other wrongs , and you only play and has dreams ! and destroy it! we can considered kill mockignbird

I really like the figure of Jem in the book like in the movie.. I consider that spite of all, Jem is a child-teenager with a nivel or "maturity" really high, he showed it in many parts of the story, and more, in some aspect her way of act and of decide: is almost an adult ..

- As son for example, he showed that understood very well some decisions of her father, although many times he seems do a lot of interrogations to Atticus, my opinion is that HE DO IT, only like a way of stay more sure that her father have the reason again, practically always be in the correct!
At the story he appear as the admirer N#1 of Atticus (more even that Scout)

- "As brother" here appear a little of "child" that he must have with her age .. Maybe some attitudes with Scout, or the facility for get angry..
In that paper of her life maybe "The brother impatient, and many time without compression with her sister" IN REALITY HE JUST TRIED OF IMPROVE HER PAPER OF BROTHER "be more adult and inteligent" for her little sister.
Some times at the chapters It seemed to me that he had a little of jealousy of Scout maybe, just my impresion ..

But in general Jem in my opinion is an exellent brother, and even better like son, he in all time showed be and child-teenager, not quick in the take of her decisions but on the contrary, analist and really able to understand topics complicated for him :)
This is Jem

Kathia wrote: "Jem is a normal boy for his age, wants to be independant and..."

Yes Kathia, I forgot of this great point, for her age, he really appear like a independent child in many times, not only when decide the things but also to give her opinion and to take audacity for practically defy to Atticus in the different orders, when he believes had the reason