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message 1: by Shanna (new)

Shanna I always found it interesting that an angel without "free will" is able to forment rebellion.
The child "clause" as you put is bullshit no where does it say this... it's your own wishful thinking.


message 2: by Sabrina (new)

Sabrina Now where do you see angels not having free will? Jude 1:6 and Job 15:14-16. Why would He make His Angels imperfect if He made them do everything. Matthew 19:13-14 is for the children.


message 3: by Wm. Scott (new)

Wm. Scott Conway Sabrina, I wouldn't disagree with you on any single point. There is an objective Hell designed for the Devil and the fallen angels. But there is a subjective one as well.

For example, when Jonah cried out "from the belly of Hell", he wasn't in the actual place designed for Satan and the fallen angels, but in a subjective place of torment.


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