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message 1: by Rose (new)

Rose That has always driven me nuts too! I wanted to know what he did! I thought he went to prison for murder but didn't get death because of mitigating circumstances, which he hints were his mental health issues. But then he murders the inmate and gets automatic death penalty. Maybe I'm wrong. He never admits what he did and I always thought the fantasy that he makes was his way of not confronting it.


message 2: by Catherine (new)

Catherine I think it was left up to us ... whatever our worst nightmare of a crime is, that's what he's done ... the author left it up to our imagination intentionally.


message 3: by Nichole (new)

Nichole Thanks for the feedback! Catherine, I (respectfully) disagree with you. Though everyone has different interpretations of books, it was made clear in the novel that he went down to the dungeons immediately after murdering the inmate (Since that's when he first goes to the library) So that's the terrible thing that got him into the dungeon, it seems. Though I can't seem to get the timeline right...My theory is that since this is written from his point of view, and he seems to be deeply sorry for the man who he has become (assuming he's Donald), the worst crime he did was disappoint his mother. And who's to say anything in the book actually happened? He might've just been bored or using it as a coping mechanism. Either way, I like that it was open to discussion, makes it a little bit more interesting.


message 4: by Bobby (new)

Bobby Teenager No, you are confusing Arden (the narrator) with the White Haired Boy.
Arden murdered a young boy named Donald. We don't know exactly how he did it, and what he did with the body, but we can assume it was horrible.
Arden = Narrator
White Haird Boy = auto theft guy
Donald = Arden's first victim when he was booted from being a ward of the state.


message 5: by Susan (new)

Susan As he is being executed Arden talks about seeing Donald, his victim's, mother there to see him be executed. She is also the woman who gasps when he was given a life sentence at his first trial.


message 6: by Lexi (new)

Lexi Hi all, I do think that the author makes it clear enough that Arden killed a child named Donald. At one point in the book they are talking and the warden says about the lady that he "doesn't understand helping the rape killers and the serial killers and the baby killers, the men like York and Striker and Arden." This made me think that each of them was guilty of those particular offenses. (We also hear about the photos of the girls York murdered when he is being executed.) Then later in the book the lady says "She forgets that n like York hurt women, or men like Striker killed so man, and what Arden did is too horrifying to consider." So those two taken together definitely make me think that Arden/the narrator killed a boy named Donald in an absolutely horrific way.


message 7: by Holly (new)

Holly Bobby Teenager got it right. You were really confused. Narrator, who turned out to be Arden, when he was released from the mental hospital at age 18, went to a house, and from the things he said, I think that's when he did the horrible thing he did, which got him sent to prison. And yes, he killed a prisoner later, which got him sent to the dungeons. But it was the white haired boy who killed Conroy & who was in for auto theft.


message 8: by Lara (new)

Lara W Nichole, Arden, the white-haired boy, and Donald are three different people! Get a clue! Goodness me. What book were you reading?


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