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message 1: by Rozenn (new)

Rozenn Hi !

Can you separate these two books ? The second one is not a new edition but a complete rewriting for a new serie. It is no longer the same book. Thank you for your help !

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3...

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2...


message 2: by Rozenn (new)

Rozenn Bump


message 3: by Emmy (last edited Nov 08, 2023 10:51AM) (new)

Emmy de Reus Separation in progress...

Edit 19:50hrs local time
Separation completed.

Please edit this topic's title, marking it as [DONE], using the tiny EDIT-button at the right of the topic's title (only available for desktop/laptop, not in the app). This will help the other Librarians to focus on the requests that are still open.
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Carol She's So Novel꧁꧂ Emmy wrote: "Separation in progress...

Edit 19:50hrs local time
Separation completed.

Please edit this topic's title, marking it as [DONE], using the tiny EDIT-button at the right of the topic's title (only a..."


Has there been a change in policy? I thought rewritten books were combined?


message 5: by Emmy (new)

Emmy de Reus Hi Carol,

From what I understood it is no longer the same book, see post #1...


Carol She's So Novel꧁꧂ Emmy wrote: "Hi Carol,

From what I understood it is no longer the same book, see post #1..."


I've seen that wording before & they didn't used to be allowed. Is it substantially the same characters, plot, etc?


message 7: by Emmy (new)

Emmy de Reus I honestly wouldn't know... you'd have to ask the author/applicant...


message 8: by Emily (new)

Emily To the author: please elaborate on the differences of the books.


Carol She's So Novel꧁꧂ Emmy wrote: "I honestly wouldn't know... you'd have to ask the author/applicant..."

I've just spoken to an experienced Super who thinks I'm in the right.

Maybe need @Jaclyn to give a ruling


message 10: by Emmy (new)

Emmy de Reus OK, if you think the two editions should be recombined, go for it!


Carol She's So Novel꧁꧂ Emmy wrote: "OK, if you think the two editions should be recombined, go for it!"

Um no, I'll ask Jaclyn for a ruling first.


message 12: by L J (last edited Nov 08, 2023 12:11PM) (new)

L J Carol She's So Novel꧁꧂ wrote: "Emmy wrote: "I honestly wouldn't know... you'd have to ask the author/applicant..."

I've just spoken to an experienced Super who thinks I'm in the right.

Maybe need @Jaclyn to give a ruling"


I agree with you.

Separation is very, very rare for rewritten books. The ones I recall seeing approved were short stories or very short novellas rewritten into full length novels multiple times the length of the original work.


message 13: by Rozenn (new)

Rozenn Hi !

There are characters in common and many more. The plot has changed and is more complex. The entire serie will be different, with 3 volumes instead of 4. Points of view in the narration are differents. There are almost three times as many pages as in the old version (250 pages for the first version versus 600 for the new version).

Combining these two books would be confusing for my readers and detrimental for me, since my work today does not at all reflect my work in 2017-2018. Thank you for understanding !

(and sorry, I am french and english is hard for me to explain)


Carol She's So Novel꧁꧂ Rozenn wrote: "Hi !

There are characters in common and many more. The plot has changed and is more complex. The entire serie will be different, with 3 volumes instead of 4. Points of view in the narration are di..."


It needs to be a staff ruling IMO. I know this isn't the case here, but a lot of these cases have been rewrites because of bad reviews.

& all writers (you would hope) change & grow in six years.

I'm going out now, but I'll put a question up for Jaclyn when I get home. :)


message 15: by lethe (new)

lethe Rewritten editions always used to be combined. I highly doubt that has changed.


message 16: by L J (new)

L J Carol She's So Novel꧁꧂ wrote: "... It needs to be a staff ruling IMO. ..."

I agree.


annob [on hiatus] lethe wrote: "Rewritten editions always used to be combined. I highly doubt that has changed."

+1
That's the outcome I remember from the former Moderator's rulings of similar cases.


message 18: by Emily (last edited Nov 09, 2023 07:52AM) (new)

Emily While I would normally agree that they should be combined, if the old version is 250 vs new version at 600 pages, that may be enough to separate based on previous moderator rulings.

It will take time for me to find them in the group.
Edited to add:
Here's one
https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...


message 19: by L J (new)

L J Emily wrote: "While I would normally agree that they should be combined, if the old version is 250 vs new version at 600 pages, that may be enough to separate based on previous moderator rulings.

It will take ..."


Oh, good, you found one. I remembered the length thing but couldn't find example.


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