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Thank you. I’m glad someone feels the same as I do
Something else is that the biggest function of Miranda is as a baby maker so Élio and Oliver can have a kid at the end of the novel. It’s not just problematic, it’s outright offensive!!
Iris wrote: "Something else is that the biggest function of Miranda is as a baby maker so Élio and Oliver can have a kid at the end of the novel. It’s not just problematic, it’s outright offensive!!"
YESSSS theres a part in the AV Club review where it says, "As a kicker, Miranda’s whole purpose seems to be to produce a baby for Elio and Oliver to decide is theirs even though she’s still alive." -- which is DEAD ON honestly its amazing how badly miranda is written
Iris wrote: "Thank you. I’m glad someone feels the same as I do"
yeah this book a mess to say the least anything higher than a 1 star rating wouldve been an insult to all books everywhere
I said in my review to skip the first 50% and get it from the library, I just don't want people to buy this book
Iris wrote: "I said in my review to skip the first 50% and get it from the library, I just don't want people to buy this book"
they should just skip 100% of this book tbh nothing in it made it at all redeemable to me
However mister Aciman revealed in a interview he is 100 procent straight. Yeah right. Maybe just like the roman empire Hadrianus ...
ALL OF THIS!!! (But the Miranda part in particular, totally Not-Like-Other-Women™ - she doesn't even wear nail polish, can't you say she's special?)
LOL omg ya i just remembered the nail polish thing. so ridiculous like i didnt realize not wearing nail polish made u a Special Snowflake™️
Perfect review. This book was torture. I mean, wtf. Professor, what’s this next to your flibbertigibbet? I can’t with this trash.
hahah thank you i really had to get it all out there i could barely keep it together for long enough to finish the book
Ok yes. Yes to all of this. I just finished Part 1 and was like WTF IS THIS?! I’m honestly mad that this book even exists. I’m not even going to write a full review. I’ll just link to yours. This shit was weird and like... totally unnecessary.
Henriette and Fatma. I’m like all of a sudden brought back to Miranda and yeah... can we discuss for a second the part about her older brother and his friend?! Beyond the no nail polish, definitely NOT like other women 😂🙈🤯
Taylor wrote: "Ok yes. Yes to all of this. I just finished Part 1 and was like WTF IS THIS?! I’m honestly mad that this book even exists. I’m not even going to write a full review. I’ll just link to yours. This s..."
thank you!! and i am to this date absolutely BAFFLED when i see people rating this 4 and 5 stars. like to each their own but...this book was just...so...bad
Mark wrote: "Henriette and Fatma. I’m like all of a sudden brought back to Miranda and yeah... can we discuss for a second the part about her older brother and his friend?! Beyond the no nail polish, definitely..."
OMG YES as if she wasnt enough of a manic pixie dream girl already, we just HAD to throw random incest into the mix bc why not
Just finished the book... love your review. ‘What about your two sons?’ ‘I’ll always be their father... peace out’
Fatma, COMMENT READERS, SPOILER COMMENTS HERE!
I LOVE your review so much! Honestly, I laughed out loud on every other line. Part of humor is "getting it" and oh boy was I getting every bit of what you were saying and so amply and affectively illuminating! I would love to see you up on stage, you would have a great career in stand-up and i meant it, I am not being sarcastic.
I hope you didn't waste your time reading Acimen's book between CMBYN and "Find Me", "Enigma Variations", it was just 100% what you talked about and was jeering in your review here. I think he was using "Enigma Variations" to warm up what he then wrote in "Find Me". I am sure he had NO DESIRE WHATSOEVER to write a sequel to CMBYN, but he was pushed into it kicking and screaming. I am pretty sure that he meant CMBYN to be a story about YOUNG LOVE, that almost never ever lasts, and certainly doesn't last when it already DIDN'T! I mean, HELLO, Oliver dumped Elio the minute the train pulled out of the station..."Elio, huh, done that," and then found someone on the train to f*** in the train's bathroom or someplace. Elio could move him forever and Oliver could have fond memories of the summer that come and went , but, uh, living in the NOW, sweet tasty Elio was old news. But a great piano paltry, though!
I don't know if you are old enough (I am presuming nothing about age in any direction) to remember, or know about the slash craze, I think it was a crazy (maybe it still goes on, but I kind of coubt it), that, I, myself was an ample participant in, about the cusp of the 1990s, 2000s...people were writing stories on-linea about different sexual parirings, let's say Spock in Star Trek with Uhura, or maybe The Wookie with Jabba the Hut on Star Wars, I don't know, whatever floated somebody's boat regarding what they REALLY wanted to see, or maybe just play around with crazy fantasies. i loved this, and wrote several flash fiction regarding the characters of the British TV show, "Queer As Folk", which at the time was ripe for this kind of fictional pairing written by FANS. THIS to me is what SHOULD have happened with "Call Me By Your Name" and too bad that fad had died a good decade a go (I think). I so much would have loved to have written my own "Call Me By Your Name" fiction, not OTHER pairings, Aciman was amply able to do that with all sorts of other affairs Oliver and Elio were getting into, but to somehow REALISTICALLY getting them both together again with, let's say, a year...not, 20 years or however it was in this book. In other words, STILL being the Elio and Oliver that we knew and loved. Fans should have done it. Acimen surely DIDN'T. He just wanted to say that time doesn't matter, yeah, come back together after everybody else is DEAD and your playing around with partners are now all gray-haired and fat. It's a very cynical take on love. And BESIDES, is Aciman OUT OF HIS MIND? We're supposed to believe that Oliver finally realizes that he loves Elio so much that NOW he must go back to him forever, WHILE at the same time he is lusting after his fellow yoga woman's crotch and a young man piano players shaved arm pits? Give me a great. I am sorry, but Oliver really is a slime ball, and Elio not all the much better. That's Aciman's solution...end up hating them all. At leat that's what happened to me.
I agree with everything above, omg what w disaster of a sequel?! I got so many questions to the editor(s), like what the actual f*** was that even about, especially Miranda’s character...! And the fact that the kid was named Oliver... And what a coincidence that Oliver’s wife sort of almost shares the name with Elio’s lover! A 12 year old could have created a better plot in the manner of time spent in writing class’
yes, thank you for putting into words what i just didn't have the energy for after being done with this book. it's a mess. or maybe just 'an older man's fantasy'. ew.
yes to EVERYTHING you said. could not agree more. ‘find me’ literally spat on CMYBN’s beauty and i am not okay with it. also. the AGE GAPS in each relationship ??? is andre okay ? AND. mirandas incest fantasy ? hello
I love this rant. On CMBYN it never dawned of me that Aciman was so sexist, but he is. Jesusfuckingchrist this book was a shitshow.
wow, you summed it up way better than I did, YES, all of it is 100% how I read it too. The more I think about it, the more I’m convinced Aciman had either a. no inkling what a sequel should look like or b. no wish to actually write it but he did it anyway and so he fucked with his readers bc he was bored af of these characters.
The only way to make it MORE crazily unrealistic (following the obviously derranged patterns) would have been an extra 2 last pages of lil’ Ollie grown up doing the yoga chick or fit-tendons-piano-guy from US. ugh.
Tom wrote: "Fatma, COMMENT READERS, SPOILER COMMENTS HERE!
I LOVE your review so much! Honestly, I laughed out loud on every other line. Part of humor is "getting it" and oh boy was I getting every bit of wha..."
Wow thank you so much for all your kind words!! I really appreciate it!! :)
And yeah I definitely think there's a conversation to be had about when a completed story needs to be left alone vs. when it maybe has the potential to be expanded into a sequel or more books. i really didn't think CMBYN needed to have a follow-up, but even then i thought maybe this book would shed light on aspect from the first book that aciman hadn't explored. needless to say i was sorely mistaken lol.
im sure there's a lot of fanfiction out there that expands on these characters more (and better) than this book ever did...
Emma wrote: "I agree with everything above, omg what w disaster of a sequel?! I got so many questions to the editor(s), like what the actual f*** was that even about, especially Miranda’s character...! And the ..."
yeah...when i was writing this review i didnt even know where to start with all the issues i had with this book. i rarely give out one star ratings but i genuinely couldnt think of a single thing i liked about this book
Ūla wrote: "yes, thank you for putting into words what i just didn't have the energy for after being done with this book. it's a mess. or maybe just 'an older man's fantasy'. ew."
omg the incest fantasy made me so uncomfortable how did no one think maybe that wasnt a great plot point to include ?
Paula wrote: "I love this rant. On CMBYN it never dawned of me that Aciman was so sexist, but he is. Jesusfuckingchrist this book was a shitshow."
ya i feel like maybe the sexist aspects werent as apparent because there werent really any properly developed female characters in CMBYN, but with miranda (a failed attempt at writing a developed female character) the sexism becomes so obvious
Iordachs wrote: "wow, you summed it up way better than I did, YES, all of it is 100% how I read it too. The more I think about it, the more I’m convinced Aciman had either a. no inkling what a sequel should look li..."
yeah, honestly i will always be baffled as to why this book was written. im not opposed to sequels to novels, but when they add absolutely nothing to the first novel (and in fact make that first novel even worse in retrospect) then why write them ??
The Samuel/Miranda storyline had me saying "what the fuck" out loud as I was reading. I'm so glad I found a review that was as disturbed by them as I was.
Oliver wrote: "The Samuel/Miranda storyline had me saying "what the fuck" out loud as I was reading. I'm so glad I found a review that was as disturbed by them as I was."
LOL yes it was by far some of the most absurd writing i read all year
Eve wrote: "Best review. Made me laugh (in agreement) big time."
haha thank you im glad you enjoyed!! c:
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Something else is that the biggest function of Miranda is as a baby maker so Élio and Oliver can have a kid at the end of the novel. It’s not just problematic, it’s outright offensive!!
Iris wrote: "Something else is that the biggest function of Miranda is as a baby maker so Élio and Oliver can have a kid at the end of the novel. It’s not just problematic, it’s outright offensive!!"YESSSS theres a part in the AV Club review where it says, "As a kicker, Miranda’s whole purpose seems to be to produce a baby for Elio and Oliver to decide is theirs even though she’s still alive." -- which is DEAD ON honestly its amazing how badly miranda is written
Iris wrote: "Thank you. I’m glad someone feels the same as I do"yeah this book a mess to say the least anything higher than a 1 star rating wouldve been an insult to all books everywhere
I said in my review to skip the first 50% and get it from the library, I just don't want people to buy this book
Iris wrote: "I said in my review to skip the first 50% and get it from the library, I just don't want people to buy this book"they should just skip 100% of this book tbh nothing in it made it at all redeemable to me
However mister Aciman revealed in a interview he is 100 procent straight. Yeah right. Maybe just like the roman empire Hadrianus ...
ALL OF THIS!!! (But the Miranda part in particular, totally Not-Like-Other-Women™ - she doesn't even wear nail polish, can't you say she's special?)
LOL omg ya i just remembered the nail polish thing. so ridiculous like i didnt realize not wearing nail polish made u a Special Snowflake™️
Perfect review. This book was torture. I mean, wtf. Professor, what’s this next to your flibbertigibbet? I can’t with this trash.
hahah thank you i really had to get it all out there i could barely keep it together for long enough to finish the book
Ok yes. Yes to all of this. I just finished Part 1 and was like WTF IS THIS?! I’m honestly mad that this book even exists. I’m not even going to write a full review. I’ll just link to yours. This shit was weird and like... totally unnecessary.
Henriette and Fatma. I’m like all of a sudden brought back to Miranda and yeah... can we discuss for a second the part about her older brother and his friend?! Beyond the no nail polish, definitely NOT like other women 😂🙈🤯
Taylor wrote: "Ok yes. Yes to all of this. I just finished Part 1 and was like WTF IS THIS?! I’m honestly mad that this book even exists. I’m not even going to write a full review. I’ll just link to yours. This s..."thank you!! and i am to this date absolutely BAFFLED when i see people rating this 4 and 5 stars. like to each their own but...this book was just...so...bad
Mark wrote: "Henriette and Fatma. I’m like all of a sudden brought back to Miranda and yeah... can we discuss for a second the part about her older brother and his friend?! Beyond the no nail polish, definitely..."OMG YES as if she wasnt enough of a manic pixie dream girl already, we just HAD to throw random incest into the mix bc why not
Just finished the book... love your review. ‘What about your two sons?’ ‘I’ll always be their father... peace out’
Fatma, COMMENT READERS, SPOILER COMMENTS HERE!I LOVE your review so much! Honestly, I laughed out loud on every other line. Part of humor is "getting it" and oh boy was I getting every bit of what you were saying and so amply and affectively illuminating! I would love to see you up on stage, you would have a great career in stand-up and i meant it, I am not being sarcastic.
I hope you didn't waste your time reading Acimen's book between CMBYN and "Find Me", "Enigma Variations", it was just 100% what you talked about and was jeering in your review here. I think he was using "Enigma Variations" to warm up what he then wrote in "Find Me". I am sure he had NO DESIRE WHATSOEVER to write a sequel to CMBYN, but he was pushed into it kicking and screaming. I am pretty sure that he meant CMBYN to be a story about YOUNG LOVE, that almost never ever lasts, and certainly doesn't last when it already DIDN'T! I mean, HELLO, Oliver dumped Elio the minute the train pulled out of the station..."Elio, huh, done that," and then found someone on the train to f*** in the train's bathroom or someplace. Elio could move him forever and Oliver could have fond memories of the summer that come and went , but, uh, living in the NOW, sweet tasty Elio was old news. But a great piano paltry, though!
I don't know if you are old enough (I am presuming nothing about age in any direction) to remember, or know about the slash craze, I think it was a crazy (maybe it still goes on, but I kind of coubt it), that, I, myself was an ample participant in, about the cusp of the 1990s, 2000s...people were writing stories on-linea about different sexual parirings, let's say Spock in Star Trek with Uhura, or maybe The Wookie with Jabba the Hut on Star Wars, I don't know, whatever floated somebody's boat regarding what they REALLY wanted to see, or maybe just play around with crazy fantasies. i loved this, and wrote several flash fiction regarding the characters of the British TV show, "Queer As Folk", which at the time was ripe for this kind of fictional pairing written by FANS. THIS to me is what SHOULD have happened with "Call Me By Your Name" and too bad that fad had died a good decade a go (I think). I so much would have loved to have written my own "Call Me By Your Name" fiction, not OTHER pairings, Aciman was amply able to do that with all sorts of other affairs Oliver and Elio were getting into, but to somehow REALISTICALLY getting them both together again with, let's say, a year...not, 20 years or however it was in this book. In other words, STILL being the Elio and Oliver that we knew and loved. Fans should have done it. Acimen surely DIDN'T. He just wanted to say that time doesn't matter, yeah, come back together after everybody else is DEAD and your playing around with partners are now all gray-haired and fat. It's a very cynical take on love. And BESIDES, is Aciman OUT OF HIS MIND? We're supposed to believe that Oliver finally realizes that he loves Elio so much that NOW he must go back to him forever, WHILE at the same time he is lusting after his fellow yoga woman's crotch and a young man piano players shaved arm pits? Give me a great. I am sorry, but Oliver really is a slime ball, and Elio not all the much better. That's Aciman's solution...end up hating them all. At leat that's what happened to me.
I agree with everything above, omg what w disaster of a sequel?! I got so many questions to the editor(s), like what the actual f*** was that even about, especially Miranda’s character...! And the fact that the kid was named Oliver... And what a coincidence that Oliver’s wife sort of almost shares the name with Elio’s lover! A 12 year old could have created a better plot in the manner of time spent in writing class’
yes, thank you for putting into words what i just didn't have the energy for after being done with this book. it's a mess. or maybe just 'an older man's fantasy'. ew.
yes to EVERYTHING you said. could not agree more. ‘find me’ literally spat on CMYBN’s beauty and i am not okay with it. also. the AGE GAPS in each relationship ??? is andre okay ? AND. mirandas incest fantasy ? hello
I love this rant. On CMBYN it never dawned of me that Aciman was so sexist, but he is. Jesusfuckingchrist this book was a shitshow.
wow, you summed it up way better than I did, YES, all of it is 100% how I read it too. The more I think about it, the more I’m convinced Aciman had either a. no inkling what a sequel should look like or b. no wish to actually write it but he did it anyway and so he fucked with his readers bc he was bored af of these characters. The only way to make it MORE crazily unrealistic (following the obviously derranged patterns) would have been an extra 2 last pages of lil’ Ollie grown up doing the yoga chick or fit-tendons-piano-guy from US. ugh.
Tom wrote: "Fatma, COMMENT READERS, SPOILER COMMENTS HERE!I LOVE your review so much! Honestly, I laughed out loud on every other line. Part of humor is "getting it" and oh boy was I getting every bit of wha..."
Wow thank you so much for all your kind words!! I really appreciate it!! :)
And yeah I definitely think there's a conversation to be had about when a completed story needs to be left alone vs. when it maybe has the potential to be expanded into a sequel or more books. i really didn't think CMBYN needed to have a follow-up, but even then i thought maybe this book would shed light on aspect from the first book that aciman hadn't explored. needless to say i was sorely mistaken lol.
im sure there's a lot of fanfiction out there that expands on these characters more (and better) than this book ever did...
Emma wrote: "I agree with everything above, omg what w disaster of a sequel?! I got so many questions to the editor(s), like what the actual f*** was that even about, especially Miranda’s character...! And the ..."yeah...when i was writing this review i didnt even know where to start with all the issues i had with this book. i rarely give out one star ratings but i genuinely couldnt think of a single thing i liked about this book
Ūla wrote: "yes, thank you for putting into words what i just didn't have the energy for after being done with this book. it's a mess. or maybe just 'an older man's fantasy'. ew."omg the incest fantasy made me so uncomfortable how did no one think maybe that wasnt a great plot point to include ?
Paula wrote: "I love this rant. On CMBYN it never dawned of me that Aciman was so sexist, but he is. Jesusfuckingchrist this book was a shitshow."ya i feel like maybe the sexist aspects werent as apparent because there werent really any properly developed female characters in CMBYN, but with miranda (a failed attempt at writing a developed female character) the sexism becomes so obvious
Iordachs wrote: "wow, you summed it up way better than I did, YES, all of it is 100% how I read it too. The more I think about it, the more I’m convinced Aciman had either a. no inkling what a sequel should look li..."yeah, honestly i will always be baffled as to why this book was written. im not opposed to sequels to novels, but when they add absolutely nothing to the first novel (and in fact make that first novel even worse in retrospect) then why write them ??
The Samuel/Miranda storyline had me saying "what the fuck" out loud as I was reading. I'm so glad I found a review that was as disturbed by them as I was.
Oliver wrote: "The Samuel/Miranda storyline had me saying "what the fuck" out loud as I was reading. I'm so glad I found a review that was as disturbed by them as I was."LOL yes it was by far some of the most absurd writing i read all year
Eve wrote: "Best review. Made me laugh (in agreement) big time."haha thank you im glad you enjoyed!! c:










