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message 1: by Deniz (new)

Deniz Hello everyone! Will there be one? Is there any way of knowing? Anyone know someone over at Alfred A Knopf? 🌞


message 2: by Nick (new)

Nick Sweeney I have no idea. I'm assuming she wouldn't just retire, so there must be another in the works.


message 3: by Damián (new)

Damián Tullio She publish a book every ten years or so. I'm afraid we are going to have to wait a couple of years at least.


message 4: by Nick (new)

Nick Sweeney You're right, Damian. Let's hope she's busy cracking on with another. I'd like to read at least one more of her books before I die/get too old!


message 5: by Turquoise (new)

Turquoise I think of when she will release a new book all the time, for now though we can content ourselves with reading her past three masterpieces.


message 6: by Nick (new)

Nick Sweeney Thanks, Alexander, me too, though I've not thought about it recently. She is obviously keeping out of the news until she has something to release.


message 7: by Nick (new)

Nick Sweeney I read The Secret History again 2 years ago, and The Little Friend last year. I may have a go at The Goldfinch again, and see if I like it better the second time - I'm sure I will.

I watched the film of The Goldfinch, which was actually very well done.


message 8: by Lauren (new)

Lauren Yarger I liked the Goldfinch movie very much. I didn't think they would be able to capture such a detailed story in a short screenplay, but they did. Even more interesting, the scenes/sets looked just like they did in my imagination while I was reading. A very satisfying adaptation.


message 9: by Nick (new)

Nick Sweeney Lauren wrote: "I liked the Goldfinch movie very much. I didn't think they would be able to capture such a detailed story in a short screenplay, but they did. Even more interesting, the scenes/sets looked just lik..."

It was great, wasn't it? It made me want to read the book again. Some of it was definitely how I'd pictured it from the book, too. It has a great cast, who did it justice.

I think both The Secret History and The Little Friend would make great films, if done properly. I believe Gwyneth Paltrow bought the rights to TSH back in the 90s - hoping to play Camilla, I imagine - but nothing ever happened with it. A shame. I don't like her much, but she probably would have made a great Camilla. 20+ years on, she'd be too old now.


message 10: by AlixanderK (new)

AlixanderK Rex Nick wrote: "Lauren wrote: "I liked the Goldfinch movie very much. I didn't think they would be able to capture such a detailed story in a short screenplay, but they did. Even more interesting, the scenes/sets ..."

When I learned of that, I was disheartened too of what would ever come of a screen adaptation of TSH. As much as I too dislike her, I think maybe she would still do the project and cast herself as the older Camilla after times passed. One can only hope she would work hard to at least create a good screenplay of it, no matter what. I do hope she'll include Donna on this nonetheless, given Donna was not happy one bit about TGF movie being made. She deserves to have a hands on, loving, curation of one of her books to screen. It would make so many fans happy too, I'm sure, as I'd be counted among them.

I have yet to read The Little Freind but look forward to doing so as soon as I can!


message 11: by ROB (new)

ROB SANTANA Ms. Tartt has become the Stanley Kubrick of novelists. Every ten years or so, a new work. I've read that she would spend an ENTIRE DAY revising ONE paragraph. It's been almost ten years, so hopefully we'll be rewarded for our patience in 2024...? Please, Donna, don't make us wait too long.


message 12: by AlixanderK (last edited Jul 02, 2023 01:21PM) (new)

AlixanderK Rex Rob wrote: "Ms. Tartt has become the Stanley Kubrick of novelists. Every ten years or so, a new work. I've read that she would spend an ENTIRE DAY revising ONE paragraph. It's been almost ten years, so hopeful..."

Yes, she's very much so in the ways of a "Virgil" in that she will sometimes write even just a sentence a day. A slow but meticulous writer of her designs, but one worth waiting for the work in its complete glory for. I do hope we get a new work soon too! She's become a bit of an idol for me and many others. Eagerly awaiting another book would be an understatement, am i right!? Haha


message 13: by Kathleen (new)

Kathleen Askins I am absolutely desperate for a new Tartt work! And would love to see aTSH movie…..so much there that would appeal to different age groups….a quality you don’t see often these days at the movies. And there’s SO much to work with! Rich kids, the outsider kid, fancy college, exclusivity, magic/occult, murder mystery, fancy locales, beautiful scenic locations….I could go on and on. When I see the crap that gets a movie treatment today….well, I just don’t get it


message 14: by Nick (new)

Nick Sweeney For sure. I'm getting on a bit, too, so 10 years is suddenly an unfeasibly long time. :)

I'm pretty sure Gwyneth Paltrow owns the rights to film TSH. She bought them years ago obviously with a view to playing Camilla herself. Now she's too old, and would have to play Francis' mother - actually, wasn't Francis' mum quite young for a mother, so she may even have missed out on that role, too. She'd now have to be one of the people in the college offices, or something.

I wonder why she didn't set up a film? I can see why a film-maker would be intimidated by a project like TSH, which is of course a bit love-it-or-hate-it - I know people who thought the book was laughable, and didn't even finish it - knowing its fans would be quite critical if it were not done 'right'. To me it's a fairly simple story, so just stick to it and the film would be brilliant. But what do I know...

I was pleasantly surprised by the film of The Goldfinch, as I wasn't totally mad about the book. I will read it again soon, though. I think nothing will ever beat the magic of reading TSH for the first time, in my case on a slightly doomed autumn holiday to Mazuria, Poland's 'lake district', when the rain never stopped and I was stuck in a gloomy hotel room and lounge with nothing to do but read TSH.


message 15: by Kathleen (new)

Kathleen Askins Oh my, Nick, quite the romantic setting for reading TSH!
I wish I knew someone even remotely connected to the movie biz. I know it’s deadly difficult to get a movie made, but still….when you regard some of the screenplays that DO get made…..!
And kids are still reading TSH. My 27 yr old son was reading it on the NYC subway, and a fellow traveler (also young) commented to him as to how good it was.


message 16: by Nick (new)

Nick Sweeney It IS one of those books that encourage readers to comment. I was reading The Goldfinch, and a stranger said she had nearly finished it, and we agreed that it was every bit as good as TSH. I think I have a slightly softer spot for TSH partly because of that original reading of it.

DT is so fiercely private that her books tend to drop suddenly, and with great fanfare. I like that... though it's frustrating not to have some hint.


message 17: by Nick (new)

Nick Sweeney Hardly an update, as this article is quite old, but there is some background about why TSH has NOT become a film.
https://www.townandcountrymag.com/lei...


message 18: by Kathleen (new)

Kathleen Askins Hahaaa…..literally just read that article, …again! I’m seeing also that apparently there has been a recent internet rumor that a new novel was about to drop. The publisher immediately came out to squash and deny.


message 19: by Nick (new)

Nick Sweeney Well, one is due. Keeps us on our Tarttian toes...


message 20: by ROB (new)

ROB SANTANA According to an unreliable vine, Donna's next book is slated for Oct of 2024. Again- unreliable.


message 21: by ROB (new)

ROB SANTANA Nick wrote: "I read The Secret History again 2 years ago, and The Little Friend last year. I may have a go at The Goldfinch again, and see if I like it better the second time - I'm sure I will.

I watched the f..."

I AGREE. UNDERRATED, that film.


message 22: by ROB (new)

ROB SANTANA Lauren wrote: "I liked the Goldfinch movie very much. I didn't think they would be able to capture such a detailed story in a short screenplay, but they did. Even more interesting, the scenes/sets looked just lik..."

Agreed, Lauren. Vastly underrated, that film; and hard to pull off.


message 23: by ROB (new)

ROB SANTANA Alixander wrote: "Rob wrote: "Ms. Tartt has become the Stanley Kubrick of novelists. Every ten years or so, a new work. I've read that she would spend an ENTIRE DAY revising ONE paragraph. It's been almost ten years..."

SO right, Alixander. Makes the wait even more enticing. Just don't overdo it, Donna.


message 24: by ROB (new)

ROB SANTANA Kathleen wrote: "I am absolutely desperate for a new Tartt work! And would love to see aTSH movie…..so much there that would appeal to different age groups….a quality you don’t see often these days at the movies. A..."

Agreed. DREAM DIRECTORS would be: Spielberg, Greta Gerwin, Sofia Coppola, Scorsese, Fincher, Ridley Scott...Did I miss anybody?


message 25: by ROB (new)

ROB SANTANA I wonder if anyone has heard Donna's READING OF HER AUDIOBOOK of TSH. I've heard it three time and counting. She is fabulous, rendering her characters, so lively, and funny when she mimics BUNNY. Give it a shot.


message 26: by Nick (new)

Nick Sweeney Rob wrote: "I wonder if anyone has heard Donna's READING OF HER AUDIOBOOK of TSH. I've heard it three time and counting. She is fabulous, rendering her characters, so lively, and funny when she mimics BUNNY. G..."

thanks for the recommendation, Rob. I've never been into audiobooks, but this one sounds worth a shot, and certain to be one sure way to improve TSH.


message 27: by ROB (new)

ROB SANTANA Kathleen wrote: "I am absolutely desperate for a new Tartt work! And would love to see aTSH movie…..so much there that would appeal to different age groups….a quality you don’t see often these days at the movies. A..."

Totally agree.


message 28: by ROB (new)

ROB SANTANA Nick wrote: "Rob wrote: "I wonder if anyone has heard Donna's READING OF HER AUDIOBOOK of TSH. I've heard it three time and counting. She is fabulous, rendering her characters, so lively, and funny when she mim..."

Give it a shot, Nick. Donna has a wonderful voice and should be hired to do quality VOs.


message 29: by AlixanderK (new)

AlixanderK Rex Oh yeah, i only listen along most rereads now because it just brings you to her world completely. Often listen through when i'm doing to do's on winter snow days, it's so lovely.


message 30: by AlixanderK (new)

AlixanderK Rex Rob wrote: "Alixander wrote: "Rob wrote: "Ms. Tartt has become the Stanley Kubrick of novelists. Every ten years or so, a new work. I've read that she would spend an ENTIRE DAY revising ONE paragraph. It's bee..."
Ahahaha, yes, i plea with her, please don't ahaha. We really need it!


message 31: by Nick (new)

Nick Sweeney She is obviously dedicated. It only took James Joyce 8 years to write Ulysses (though the - in my opinion - rather pointless Finnegans Wake took him 17 years). She is a true artist, not just slinging any old stuff out there to rake in the shekels, and we should be thankful for that... but sometimes, against my better wishes, I wish she would.

I'll certainly get the TSH audiobook. Thanks for the recommendation. It seems weird, but I would never have thought of it!


message 32: by AlixanderK (new)

AlixanderK Rex Nick wrote: "She is obviously dedicated. It only took James Joyce 8 years to write Ulysses (though the - in my opinion - rather pointless Finnegans Wake took him 17 years). She is a true artist, not just slingi..."

I can relate, I appreciate greatly her attention to detail and dedication to real work not some crud to make a wave and a buck. She makes art, modern classics in my opinion, and you know what they say, you can't rush greatness. (Even when we wish so badly, we can, haha.)


message 33: by ROB (new)

ROB SANTANA I just hope Donna's next book won't be a sequel. Can't imagine it will be, but you never know with today's publishers kowtowing to trends. Every new book by Ms. Tartt should be an original story, right? Right.


message 34: by ROB (new)

ROB SANTANA Nick wrote: "Rob wrote: "I wonder if anyone has heard Donna's READING OF HER AUDIOBOOK of TSH. I've heard it three time and counting. She is fabulous, rendering her characters, so lively, and funny when she mim..."

thx, Nick.


message 35: by Nick (new)

Nick Sweeney Yes, it's unlikely to be a sequel. You never know, but I'd be surprised. (And would still expect it to be brilliant.)


message 36: by ROB (new)

ROB SANTANA I predict at least 800 to 1000 pages on her next opus. Or am I being way off on those numbers. I'm not even sure what the usual numbers are for hard cover novels.
Also- it still amazes me how Donna has eschewed social media and still created a sense of mystery about her in between books.
Don't keep us waiting too long, Donna,


message 37: by Nick (new)

Nick Sweeney The Goldfinch was longer than TSH and TLF. I thought parts of it seemed unedited. It would be a shame if she is in the J K Rowling zone of publishers not bothering to edit because they know people will buy it anyway.

There were plenty of flaws in my favourite book of hers, The Secret History,* but the rest of it was so great that I barely noticed them on a first read. I found myself wanting to skim parts of The Goldfinch.

However, the publishers are right: I'll buy it anyway!

*Such as Henry's seeming determination to translate Paradise Lost into a language with cases, to make it better. Eh? I kept wondering whether it was Henry who had not thought that one through... or the author. Of course, it shows Henry as an erudite geek, though I think we know that by that point. There was also the startling claim that Julian Morrow had known George Orwell in Paris. How? Orwell was in Paris between 1927 and 1929, was not famous and did not move in literary circles, but lived among the poorest people. Assuming he's around 50-60 in TSH, Julian would not have been born till 1930-40-ish.


message 38: by AlixanderK (new)

AlixanderK Rex Nick wrote: "The Goldfinch was longer than TSH and TLF. I thought parts of it seemed unedited. It would be a shame if she is in the J K Rowling zone of publishers not bothering to edit because they know people ..."

Well, I'm no grammarian by any means--though hard at work in studies--I do know she mentioned that The Secret History was based off of her experience in school, having fun with the fact that people made up these completely crazy stories about her, her group of friends, as well as the character that inspired Julian. I imagine some embellishment was to show just how unfeasible some of the rumors are, to mirror that. But then again, I don't recall ever reading an age for him. I only remember Richard describing him as looking young somehow despite also looking old, also unable to read his age.


message 39: by Nick (new)

Nick Sweeney Thanks, Alixander. I didn't mean that her grammar etc needed editing - that's usually perfect within the parameters of these things. I just meant in terms of the story in The Goldfinch, really, long drawn-out scenes that (in my imperfect bystander's opinion) could have been shorter. And I think Boris calling Theo 'Potter' the whole time because of a fancied resemblance to Harry Potter faded in charm after a while, and seemed sort of lazy, in a way. (I'm still looking forward to reading it again, and I'm sure I'll like it better and wonder what I was on about...)

In TSH I just don't think Julian knowing Orwell in Paris works out at all in terms of the timeline, nor indeed of Orwell's limited time there - but I really don't let it bother me... despite appearances! :)


message 40: by ROB (new)

ROB SANTANA Nick wrote: "The Goldfinch was longer than TSH and TLF. I thought parts of it seemed unedited. It would be a shame if she is in the J K Rowling zone of publishers not bothering to edit because they know people ..."

interesting points.


message 41: by ROB (new)

ROB SANTANA Alixander wrote: "Nick wrote: "The Goldfinch was longer than TSH and TLF. I thought parts of it seemed unedited. It would be a shame if she is in the J K Rowling zone of publishers not bothering to edit because they..."

Richard is an enigma NOT wrapped into anything.


message 42: by ROB (new)

ROB SANTANA IMO- Donna's next book will begin with the word 'THE.'


message 43: by Damián (new)

Damián Tullio I ope she give us a small book. Not even 200 pages long. That would be perfect.


message 44: by Nick (new)

Nick Sweeney Anything from her would be great, I agree. It's now over 10 years since The Goldfinch. I hope she does another before I die!


message 45: by W.B. (new)

W.B. Edwards Rob wrote: "Nick wrote: "Rob wrote: "I wonder if anyone has heard Donna's READING OF HER AUDIOBOOK of TSH. I've heard it three time and counting. She is fabulous, rendering her characters, so lively, and funny..."

Have you read True Grit? Ms. Tartt reads that book so well it makes the films seem amateurish. Meanwhile, I too can't wait for her next book.


message 46: by Kathleen (new)

Kathleen Askins Sigh…a new release would be the best news! Tick, tock, Donna!!


message 47: by ROB (new)

ROB SANTANA Ms. Tartt has chosen a unique way of hiding from her devoted readers.
She has forbidden her publisher and publicist to divulge her whereabouts as she finishes her fourth book. And who was it that titled it 'Tribulation?' Sounds like a wannabe title. I'm guessing the title will begin with 'THE.'
C'mon, Donna. Enough with the secret mystery. Your readers are waiting.


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