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Oh my god. Yes. I just finished the first chapter, and I feel all of this! Why not use a variety of literary/folklore scholars to provide a variety of interpretations on the material instead of just her conclusions. Also why is she knocking Grimm's so much but then completely indulging in other folklore. If I supposed to be wary of some stories, why shouldn't we be wary of them all? And I completely agree about not fitting into the archetype she's created for all women. I guess I fit physically with her description but I don't view myself as a woman who was caged and has broken free and is just walking around exuding this wild womanhood. I find the jump back and forth between the metaphors and practical applications makes her advice feel all the more shallow. Like how overwhelming freedom may be and then advice on not drinking and driving or getting std's.
I'm only on the second page of chapter 1, after reading the drawn out drivel of the introduction, I am already disappointed and not excited. It's going to be a painful 500 pages I think urrrgh
Then this book was not meant to speak to you. But it does speak to some......like any book.....they speak to us at a level of need that is very personal.
I am so confused with the reviews... They are so different. I just ordered the book and this review makes me a bit anxious because I had very high hopes for this book. Anyway, thank you for your review. It has made me even more curious to read this book.
I've felt that while reading the intro. Then I skipped it. I never do this. I ditched the book right away on the 1st chapter something very similar to the myth of Rome foundation myth (twins, a female wolf), says it's an Aztec myth but in the back of the book, at the notes section, writes down the Roman body's names and says it's a myth from the Navajo tribe. Dude... no. It's a big nope for me.
just a correction: instead of "Roman body's names" it's "Roman boys's names"
If you really did undertsnad her, then you would know she hasn't suggested that you roam like a stray dog.
If a book does not speak to you, doesn't make it badly written, just drop it and move over and don't be overly bitter about not connecting with it.
Akah, it's possible that a book just doesn't speak to you. However, it's also possible that it's just badly written. I do not feel this reviewer is 'roaming like a stray dog'. She provides a logical explaination of her opinion. The fact that you can't accept that, doesn't mean she's overly bitter. It just means you two disagree.
This is exactly how I feel in more or less various sentiments, about this book. I found it challenging (and that’s an understatement) to get beyond the first two chapters...and at that, I had to force myself to read that far. This book is a true testament to overly inflated ego, and spiritual jargon combined in a way that brings together a mass consciousness of people who are lost and are searching for a solution to their problem, through the escapism of self understanding and self searching. This book is a great example of how easy it is to create a following out of pain.
The author is speaking about the feminine and not specifically women. It's true that women have a natural inclination towards the feminine and receptivity, but there are many women, especially through hundreds of years of patriarchy and feminine suppression, who are very masculine with little connection to the feminine. My guess may be that this book speaks to the feminine and may really tickle and or disturb the faux masculine of our patriarchal society which permeates our flesh and minds.
This is a call back into the feminine, whether you are man or woman. Either gender can access it, and in a world where we reject nature (feminine) mental illness (feminine friction with masculine) and even relationship with others, it will be increasingly necessary to tap into this realm of sensitivity, for the sake of life.
Rejecting this book, is a free choice, but can I suggest that when you are so repulsed by something, maybe you have rejected it within yourself.
Such a terrible book... she annoys me with every page 😂
Don’t read reviews before you buy a book is my piece of advice due to the fact that everyone has a different level of comprehension for different things. This is a fantastic book which will be useful to many.
Totally agree. Couldn't get past chapter one. I am a feminist, I love wolves. No evidence. Much posturing and loud lamenting like me after a few bottles of wine around the fire while all my friends have gone to sleep/passed out.
What a precise and useful review. Thank you.
That's definitely not what the writer ment. There are different types of artistic urges. It doesn't mean you are artistic if you can sing, draw etc. Artistic can mean you are good in growing plants and vegetables and fruits, telling stories etc. She ment we all have to do what we love and follow our hearts no matter what other people say. We have to listen our soul and instincts. And we indeed can relate us and our souls to animals, not only wolfs, but cats, butterflies, birds,...but only small amount of people can understand that.
Agnès Baille-Roy I feel like the book is the opposite of essentialism. She talks about changing/evolving all the time (life/death/life cycles in relationships). She talks about changing within yourself is the first step in changing things for the better as a society.
The book is kind of repetitive and definitely wordy but there is a lot to unpack..I also found myself skipping around a lot. The audiobook helped me really get into the book.
I've begun reading it, and thought the introduction was very repetitive and tedious... I'm Very interested in the stories, however, but I can see I'm not Very found of the author's style already. So I came here to see If anyone else felt this way. I've seen people defending the book saying those who disliked It to not understanding It wether because it's too "academic" (and since there are zero references, I guess it's not the case) or because you're uptight, or in need of breaking free. Damn. When such prepotent comments as these come up, I know there's definetly something strange. I'm going to take It slow and try reading it further, like take one storie and digest, because the author writes in a way that is Very boring to me, I would rather It wasn't so prolixe. But I think there might be interesting things in It, ir it's Just the hype (nowadays it's one of the best selling books on Amazon Brasil).
I'm not far in but I'm left feeling"But what if I had a good childhood and parents that supported me and a Mother who spent her whole life fighting against gender norms, but I don't feel trapped by men in my life?"
And seriously you'd think a PhD would know that anecdotal evidence isn't evidence at all...
I also wonder what would happen to her world if she spent time with NON heteronormative "females". Hung out with trans men and women as well as non binary. Does she think we have no struggle or is she lumping us into "captive" or "free" categories?
Just wanted to say- creativity has nothing to do with art.
I agree with everything you wrote. I've never read a more verbose book in my life. And SO full of BS, too. The stories are interesting, but they all feel tainted by the one-sided interpretation. I started with curiosity and was reading the book in earnest, but by the third chapter, I understood what the author was doing and could predict the way every story would be interpreted. Towards the end, I was reading maybe 2 or 3 sentences per page and still yelled, Yes I get it, move on!
Omg couldn’t agree more with this - it was SO repetitive. Could have just read 1 page and called it a day.
ai bicha tu deu 5 estrela pra heartstopper se preserva
Maybe poetic style is not your thing as I didn't find this very small book repetitive as much as a song. For me, this review reveals insecurities rather than an accurate description of the book itself.
I mean honestly. You aren’t wrong lol. I am STRUGGLING to get through this book and I’m only on page 35. It is incredibly repetitive. So far within the 35 pages I’ve basically read that women are like wolves and wolves are wild so women are wild wolves. 😪 this might end up being a DNF.
Im on the introduction to the Portuguese translation of the book, and while im still holding out on the possibility of enjoying the book, your review (which is super clear and helpful by the way) puts into words a lot of the qualms ive had with it so far. I feel that I could probably still find substance in it, but the issues youve described do make it more difficult to connect.
I just got to page 36 + scanned through a few other chapters and I have absolutely no idea what I'm reading. It's as if the book has the same sentence over and over again in a different language. Such high hopes but I have to DNF.
I think you didn't understand the book...
I learned that books can not be for everyone and that is okay
“No evidence” besides whole study of Carl Jung which she studied and based her work on. There is no problem with having high hopes and getting disappointed by taking the read too emotionally and personally, but that doesn’t mean the book is bad. :) greetings
She is interpreting literature.... There is not right way to interpret these stories and she states this is one way to interpret them. Idk, did you sit thru HS English??
The most fascinating, insightful, and transformative book I’ve ever read. I believe it’s a must read for every woman. I’d call it life-saving.
This book is so outdated. Men have masculine energy and women feminine. Also I did an audiobook so hearing her breathy cadence was too much.
if you don’t get it, you don’t get it and that’s really it
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Oh my god. Yes. I just finished the first chapter, and I feel all of this! Why not use a variety of literary/folklore scholars to provide a variety of interpretations on the material instead of just her conclusions. Also why is she knocking Grimm's so much but then completely indulging in other folklore. If I supposed to be wary of some stories, why shouldn't we be wary of them all? And I completely agree about not fitting into the archetype she's created for all women. I guess I fit physically with her description but I don't view myself as a woman who was caged and has broken free and is just walking around exuding this wild womanhood. I find the jump back and forth between the metaphors and practical applications makes her advice feel all the more shallow. Like how overwhelming freedom may be and then advice on not drinking and driving or getting std's.
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I'm only on the second page of chapter 1, after reading the drawn out drivel of the introduction, I am already disappointed and not excited. It's going to be a painful 500 pages I think urrrgh
Then this book was not meant to speak to you. But it does speak to some......like any book.....they speak to us at a level of need that is very personal.
I am so confused with the reviews... They are so different. I just ordered the book and this review makes me a bit anxious because I had very high hopes for this book. Anyway, thank you for your review. It has made me even more curious to read this book.
I've felt that while reading the intro. Then I skipped it. I never do this. I ditched the book right away on the 1st chapter something very similar to the myth of Rome foundation myth (twins, a female wolf), says it's an Aztec myth but in the back of the book, at the notes section, writes down the Roman body's names and says it's a myth from the Navajo tribe. Dude... no. It's a big nope for me.
just a correction: instead of "Roman body's names" it's "Roman boys's names"
If you really did undertsnad her, then you would know she hasn't suggested that you roam like a stray dog. If a book does not speak to you, doesn't make it badly written, just drop it and move over and don't be overly bitter about not connecting with it.
Akah, it's possible that a book just doesn't speak to you. However, it's also possible that it's just badly written. I do not feel this reviewer is 'roaming like a stray dog'. She provides a logical explaination of her opinion. The fact that you can't accept that, doesn't mean she's overly bitter. It just means you two disagree.
This is exactly how I feel in more or less various sentiments, about this book. I found it challenging (and that’s an understatement) to get beyond the first two chapters...and at that, I had to force myself to read that far. This book is a true testament to overly inflated ego, and spiritual jargon combined in a way that brings together a mass consciousness of people who are lost and are searching for a solution to their problem, through the escapism of self understanding and self searching. This book is a great example of how easy it is to create a following out of pain.
The author is speaking about the feminine and not specifically women. It's true that women have a natural inclination towards the feminine and receptivity, but there are many women, especially through hundreds of years of patriarchy and feminine suppression, who are very masculine with little connection to the feminine. My guess may be that this book speaks to the feminine and may really tickle and or disturb the faux masculine of our patriarchal society which permeates our flesh and minds. This is a call back into the feminine, whether you are man or woman. Either gender can access it, and in a world where we reject nature (feminine) mental illness (feminine friction with masculine) and even relationship with others, it will be increasingly necessary to tap into this realm of sensitivity, for the sake of life.
Rejecting this book, is a free choice, but can I suggest that when you are so repulsed by something, maybe you have rejected it within yourself.
Such a terrible book... she annoys me with every page 😂
Don’t read reviews before you buy a book is my piece of advice due to the fact that everyone has a different level of comprehension for different things. This is a fantastic book which will be useful to many.
Totally agree. Couldn't get past chapter one. I am a feminist, I love wolves. No evidence. Much posturing and loud lamenting like me after a few bottles of wine around the fire while all my friends have gone to sleep/passed out.
What a precise and useful review. Thank you.
That's definitely not what the writer ment. There are different types of artistic urges. It doesn't mean you are artistic if you can sing, draw etc. Artistic can mean you are good in growing plants and vegetables and fruits, telling stories etc. She ment we all have to do what we love and follow our hearts no matter what other people say. We have to listen our soul and instincts. And we indeed can relate us and our souls to animals, not only wolfs, but cats, butterflies, birds,...but only small amount of people can understand that.
Agnès Baille-Roy I feel like the book is the opposite of essentialism. She talks about changing/evolving all the time (life/death/life cycles in relationships). She talks about changing within yourself is the first step in changing things for the better as a society.The book is kind of repetitive and definitely wordy but there is a lot to unpack..I also found myself skipping around a lot. The audiobook helped me really get into the book.
I've begun reading it, and thought the introduction was very repetitive and tedious... I'm Very interested in the stories, however, but I can see I'm not Very found of the author's style already. So I came here to see If anyone else felt this way. I've seen people defending the book saying those who disliked It to not understanding It wether because it's too "academic" (and since there are zero references, I guess it's not the case) or because you're uptight, or in need of breaking free. Damn. When such prepotent comments as these come up, I know there's definetly something strange. I'm going to take It slow and try reading it further, like take one storie and digest, because the author writes in a way that is Very boring to me, I would rather It wasn't so prolixe. But I think there might be interesting things in It, ir it's Just the hype (nowadays it's one of the best selling books on Amazon Brasil).
I'm not far in but I'm left feeling"But what if I had a good childhood and parents that supported me and a Mother who spent her whole life fighting against gender norms, but I don't feel trapped by men in my life?"And seriously you'd think a PhD would know that anecdotal evidence isn't evidence at all...
I also wonder what would happen to her world if she spent time with NON heteronormative "females". Hung out with trans men and women as well as non binary. Does she think we have no struggle or is she lumping us into "captive" or "free" categories?
Just wanted to say- creativity has nothing to do with art.
I agree with everything you wrote. I've never read a more verbose book in my life. And SO full of BS, too. The stories are interesting, but they all feel tainted by the one-sided interpretation. I started with curiosity and was reading the book in earnest, but by the third chapter, I understood what the author was doing and could predict the way every story would be interpreted. Towards the end, I was reading maybe 2 or 3 sentences per page and still yelled, Yes I get it, move on!
Omg couldn’t agree more with this - it was SO repetitive. Could have just read 1 page and called it a day.
ai bicha tu deu 5 estrela pra heartstopper se preserva
Maybe poetic style is not your thing as I didn't find this very small book repetitive as much as a song. For me, this review reveals insecurities rather than an accurate description of the book itself.
I mean honestly. You aren’t wrong lol. I am STRUGGLING to get through this book and I’m only on page 35. It is incredibly repetitive. So far within the 35 pages I’ve basically read that women are like wolves and wolves are wild so women are wild wolves. 😪 this might end up being a DNF.
Im on the introduction to the Portuguese translation of the book, and while im still holding out on the possibility of enjoying the book, your review (which is super clear and helpful by the way) puts into words a lot of the qualms ive had with it so far. I feel that I could probably still find substance in it, but the issues youve described do make it more difficult to connect.
I just got to page 36 + scanned through a few other chapters and I have absolutely no idea what I'm reading. It's as if the book has the same sentence over and over again in a different language. Such high hopes but I have to DNF.
I think you didn't understand the book...
I learned that books can not be for everyone and that is okay
“No evidence” besides whole study of Carl Jung which she studied and based her work on. There is no problem with having high hopes and getting disappointed by taking the read too emotionally and personally, but that doesn’t mean the book is bad. :) greetings
She is interpreting literature.... There is not right way to interpret these stories and she states this is one way to interpret them. Idk, did you sit thru HS English??
The most fascinating, insightful, and transformative book I’ve ever read. I believe it’s a must read for every woman. I’d call it life-saving.
This book is so outdated. Men have masculine energy and women feminine. Also I did an audiobook so hearing her breathy cadence was too much.
if you don’t get it, you don’t get it and that’s really it
