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Mehmet, absolute truth.People would rather believe simple lies than a complex truth.
The question is why.
Maybe because truth demands confrontation, while a lie offers temporary comfort.
As always Mehmet, a deep insight!!It's a complex problem, as humans ourselves are complex... I think the truth is that most people cannot distinguish the "truth" from deceptions. So, I can't blame people that really haven't the ability. I blame those individuals that know better (our leaders) and still pursue their own greedy self-interests, whether that be for wealth, power, etc... These individuals are not looking out for the best interests of the planet, our society, our future - they only see themselves as privileged and have a right to exploit all about them.
Secondly, just about every problem is either directly or indirectly related to overpopulation. There's just too many humans on this planet - over-tipping that balance of nature... The real problem: there's always been a need for such human population, whether due to that transition from hunter/gatherers to agricultural/domestication of animals, or the industrial revolution. Yet, with automation and now robotics/AI, with the elimination of jobs, what are we going to do with hundreds of millions, perhaps even billions of people, who no longer have a place in society? It's an issue we don't want to talk about, but it will soon become a reality.
I believe there are those crux moments in history: the jungles turning into savannahs, the quest to follow the herds out of Africa, that transition from hunters to agriculture, the bubonic plague, etc... Well, this, within the next few generations, I believe, is another.
Michael wrote: "As always Mehmet, a deep insight!!It's a complex problem, as humans ourselves are complex... I think the truth is that most people cannot distinguish the "truth" from deceptions. So, I can't blam..."
Good morning all :)
Please allow me to summarize your thoughts:
humanity needs to learn from history, slow down, avoid waste, destruction, and overpopulation. And, we can only do it if the message is simple!
At the risk of sounding naive and simplistic, I'll share my own " simple truth": cultivate all the above within your own family- for you have complete power at this level.
:)
Jasmine
Dear Friends,Claire pointed out our tendency to take refuge in simple lies that provide temporary comfort rather than facing complex truths. Michael drew attention to the potential dangers of billions of people becoming "functionless" amidst overpopulation and inadequate leadership.
Jasmine emphasized that change must be initiated at the micro-level, starting within the individual’s own family.
As I read the contributions of our new participant, the esteemed Dennis, a film I’ve watched three or four times to fully grasp its depth came to mind: Pink Floyd – The Wall. Questions began to flutter through my mind: Where can we truly go with this current education system and these educators? Has humanity really reached a point of irreversible decay? And are we doing anything here other than simply "validating one another"?
Yes, this subject is as complex as we are. As you know, in certain types of cancer, "smart drugs" tailored to the individual’s unique biological structure are now being used; because, while we may appear the same, we harbor vast differences, especially in our cognitive frameworks. This is what we symbolize in sociology and anthropology as "cultural diversity is wealth." Evolution works exactly this way: the more we increase the number of possibilities, the higher the probability of reaching a successful outcome.
However, the way to achieve this progress is precisely through engaging in discussions like this one. The human cognitive structure cannot implement a change it has not first "thought" about. By nature, our cognitive setup tends to copy and apply behavioral patterns that we have learned and tested with useful results. If we fail to generate new thoughts, that is where the real danger begins, and dogmatic thinking takes hold.
We will develop different perspectives and ideas on various subjects, focus on what we believe to be true, and test them in our own micro-segments. Depending on their capacity to solve problems, these results will either spread or vanish—or perhaps be tried again and again thousands of years from now under changing environmental conditions, finally proving their worth.
Regarding the education system: Is the problem the concept of education itself, or is it the subjectivity of societal expectations, the biased attitudes of educators, and the goal of producing "controllable" humans? Having academically studied the irreversible loss of cognitive potential in individuals who did not receive education at the appropriate age, I believe the concept of education is essential. However, revolutionary results can only be achieved through person-specific approaches and truly competent professionals.
The issues of population growth and unemployment stand as critical hurdles in shaping our future. I must say that I view this through the lens of John B. Calhoun’s “Universe 25” experiment. Even when resources are limitless, the "behavioral sink" caused by social role loss and crowding is the primary threat we must contemplate.
Mehmet
As has become custom within this group, another interesting discussion topic and responses... I think we all can agree that humanity is on a precipice. As Mehmet so eloquently stated, Nature will adapt, take care of itself. But, how will we be a part of that? At this point, I don't think anyone really knows, only mere speculations. Yet, we are not only observers, but also conscious participants... Perhaps, as Jasmine stated, individually, maybe we should begin within?
Dennis, I'm not disagreeing with you, but how do institutions differ from organisms? Is that not the organism's goal also?
I think you should also take a look at this discussion thread, Dennis: https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...Mehmet:)
And, now we have come full circle to Mehmet's opening discussion piece... Too Long Didn't Read... People who can't spend 5 minutes to read another discussion piece, 5 minutes out of their way, who want a quick summary instead, then blame everything on institutions as indoctrinators... Hmmm...
I believe philosophy, unfortunately, is not a field simple enough to be distilled into summaries. However, from my perspective, I can frame how the system operates: Before we discuss any phenomenon, we must first question the core judgments that shape our opinions of it.In our case, to evaluate where humanity is heading on this long journey, we must first reconsider the values we attribute to it. What is good, and what is evil? Are these absolute truths, or do they shift depending on the context? ( https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...)
When we discuss these questions, we begin to realize how subjective our perspective truly is, and that there is no single, absolute truth. This suggests that reaching definitive conclusions can be misleading, as vastly different outcomes may arise depending on one’s point of view (https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...).
Simultaneously, we should examine our inner world—what makes us happy or unhappy, and why we feel the need for those things in the first place (https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...).
The list goes on, but in the end, we are left with a single conclusion: the only thing we truly know is that we know nothing. And in the final scene, Morpheus appears holding two pills: one is the blue pill, offering a few minutes of temporary, artificial happiness much like the 'bread and circuses' of old. The other is the red pill, which forces us to confront an unsettling reality that has prevailed for over five thousand years; a reality that defeats us every time, yet one we still choose to rise and face once again.
Mehmet
It is time to stop and take a hard look at ourselves. What are we doing? Where are we going?
Human beings, with their limited genetic makeup and rigid patterns of thinking, are remarkably prone to losing their way. Throughout history, we have preserved our expansionist instincts—consuming and polluting every place we reach, rarely stopping until there is nothing left to exploit. Our lack of foresight may be our most dangerous shared trait.
Chasing imaginary kingdoms we believe in, we drift like leaves in the wind. The systems we construct—around power, identity, ideology, or belief—often replace reality itself. Yet reality does not disappear when ignored; it only returns with greater force.
Recently, it is clear that many writers have begun to sense this fracture. Through novels, dystopias, and fictional worlds, they are trying to tell our story. This is, in some sense, hopeful. Yet the number of people capable of truly analyzing and understanding these narratives remains limited.
Because for the majority, reality is simple: to consume, to seek comfort, to use everything around them for personal benefit, and to live within the illusions of their own belief systems. People derive satisfaction from supporting narcissistic leaders who embody their imagined ideals. The outcome of this tendency is not ambiguous: it leads toward collective collapse—and perhaps even the self-destruction of our species.
So what must be done?
First, we must simplify our way of living. We need to reduce consumption and embrace the idea of “enough” instead of “more.” Transitioning to zero-waste systems and building a life in harmony with nature is no longer a choice—it is a necessity. We must remember that we are not separate from this planet, but a part of it, just like every other living being.
We must change how we move—reducing individual car use and shifting toward public transportation. Protecting nature is not sufficient; we must actively restore it. Large-scale reforestation efforts must begin, and deforestation must be brought down to zero.
In energy production, we must abandon fossil fuels and fully commit to renewable sources. At a time when we claim to be reducing carbon emissions, expanding oil infrastructure is a clear contradiction. Ignoring this contradiction is simply irrational.
More importantly: we must stop the arms race. How can it make sense to invest in systems capable of destroying the world while simultaneously trying to save it?
And perhaps the most difficult question of all: why do people continue to support narcissistic, discriminatory, and dogmatic leaders?
Because humans tend to prefer simple narratives over complex truths. Messages built on fear, anger, and identity resonate faster than those grounded in reason and science. That is why education is critical. We must teach not only facts, but historical awareness.
When we forget history, we repeat the same mistakes. We elect narcissistic leaders again, replace reason and science with ideological blindness, and continue to trigger wars through divisive, aggressive, and dogmatic tendencies. History has taught us this lesson over and over again.
It should not be this hard to see and understand.
So let us say it once again: The emperor is naked.
And perhaps this time, someone will truly hear it.