Tina’s review of Man Swarm and the Killing of Wildlife > Likes and Comments
9 likes · Like
Ditto
You nailed the problem. Scientific objectivity absent; scared prejudice only. Ignorant evil rant. Worthless read, kill or deprive. He says Reality beckons? True no doubt, whose though? We all die, forget Mars..make Earth work idiot author. Solutions, not privelege.
Tina I'm not sure I understand your three pointed criticisms at the outset of your review, particularly the first - misanthropy? Nowhere in you review did you elaborate why you thought this to be the case but I'll imagine that the mere suggestion that humans should curtail their reproductive proclivities is synonymous to the hatred of humanity, are you suggesting the authors harbor these feelings because it doesn't come out in the book? Merely stating the fact that there are too many of us is not misanthropy, any more than going to France and complaining that there are too many French people is racist which brings me to your last comment...
Once again your sensibilities are offended by claims some populations are more fertile than others and this of course can be due to many reasons not the least of which is socioeconomic privileges which in turn are dependent on geography (arable land), stable government etc... The fact that many of the nations or regions of the planet that suffer from a dearth of these privileges are also ones with the highest fertility is not a racist comment but an observation. We can discuss why this is case - exploitation - historical and current, and we would more than likely find common ground but this wouldn't change the facts. Unfortunately, some of the solutions proposed in the book such as curtailing immigration seem to rub you the wrong way but let me suggest that the mass migrations that occur as a result of climate change will alter your feeling and those who share them rather quickly. I may be wrong but as climate refugees flood in from beleaguered regions, those on the receiving end will find themselves increasingly less hospitable when their resources are being encroached upon. The less generous among us will respond with racism and violence and eventually even those who consider themselves the most open minded will find their tolerance wearing thin.
What the authors are suggesting is that all governments attempt to solve their own fertility issues domestically rather than allow surpluses to migrate to other areas. I might add that increasing mechanization of jobs will not help with this situation either.
Finally you felt that the book was misogynistic but again I'm struggling. Is suggesting that the world's women have control over their own bodies and free access to birth control suggestive of the hatred of women?
Ultimately, I think as people that are deeply concerned with the state of our planet a sense of urgency should be gripping us and it behooves us to impart this sense of urgency to as many people as possible. The planet will not wait for us to settle our differences, nor does it care what we consider hateful of humanity, women or races only that we recognize that continuing to act as we have will do nothing to forestall or potentially reverse the damage we have wrought as a species.
It would be nice if we could get our affairs in order first but on the planetary scales of climate and evolution our differences amount to mere quibbles, so much noise as the planet heats up and the life slowly dies off around us.
back to top
date
newest »
newest »
message 1:
by
Linda
(new)
Feb 13, 2017 07:58PM
Ditto
reply
|
flag
You nailed the problem. Scientific objectivity absent; scared prejudice only. Ignorant evil rant. Worthless read, kill or deprive. He says Reality beckons? True no doubt, whose though? We all die, forget Mars..make Earth work idiot author. Solutions, not privelege.
Tina I'm not sure I understand your three pointed criticisms at the outset of your review, particularly the first - misanthropy? Nowhere in you review did you elaborate why you thought this to be the case but I'll imagine that the mere suggestion that humans should curtail their reproductive proclivities is synonymous to the hatred of humanity, are you suggesting the authors harbor these feelings because it doesn't come out in the book? Merely stating the fact that there are too many of us is not misanthropy, any more than going to France and complaining that there are too many French people is racist which brings me to your last comment...Once again your sensibilities are offended by claims some populations are more fertile than others and this of course can be due to many reasons not the least of which is socioeconomic privileges which in turn are dependent on geography (arable land), stable government etc... The fact that many of the nations or regions of the planet that suffer from a dearth of these privileges are also ones with the highest fertility is not a racist comment but an observation. We can discuss why this is case - exploitation - historical and current, and we would more than likely find common ground but this wouldn't change the facts. Unfortunately, some of the solutions proposed in the book such as curtailing immigration seem to rub you the wrong way but let me suggest that the mass migrations that occur as a result of climate change will alter your feeling and those who share them rather quickly. I may be wrong but as climate refugees flood in from beleaguered regions, those on the receiving end will find themselves increasingly less hospitable when their resources are being encroached upon. The less generous among us will respond with racism and violence and eventually even those who consider themselves the most open minded will find their tolerance wearing thin.
What the authors are suggesting is that all governments attempt to solve their own fertility issues domestically rather than allow surpluses to migrate to other areas. I might add that increasing mechanization of jobs will not help with this situation either.
Finally you felt that the book was misogynistic but again I'm struggling. Is suggesting that the world's women have control over their own bodies and free access to birth control suggestive of the hatred of women?
Ultimately, I think as people that are deeply concerned with the state of our planet a sense of urgency should be gripping us and it behooves us to impart this sense of urgency to as many people as possible. The planet will not wait for us to settle our differences, nor does it care what we consider hateful of humanity, women or races only that we recognize that continuing to act as we have will do nothing to forestall or potentially reverse the damage we have wrought as a species.
It would be nice if we could get our affairs in order first but on the planetary scales of climate and evolution our differences amount to mere quibbles, so much noise as the planet heats up and the life slowly dies off around us.

