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message 1: by Vasyl (last edited Sep 04, 2026 02:48AM) (new)

Vasyl Kazmirchuk Slavery, in the legal and historical sense, was abolished.
But I keep wondering about something else.
If a person must work because otherwise they lose their home, food, healthcare, or basic security…
If debt determines where they can live, what risks they can take, and how much freedom they can realistically afford…
If laws, contracts, family responsibilities, and social expectations shape nearly every major decision…
How free are we really?
I’m not saying modern employment, debt, or laws are the same as historical slavery. They clearly are not.
But could some forms of control survive by becoming less visible — replacing chains with dependence, fear of losing stability, and systems that are difficult to leave?
Where do you draw the line between necessary structure and coercion?
And is freedom simply having choices — or having the genuine ability to say no?
I’m genuinely curious how others see this.


message 2: by Lance (new)

Lance Morcan You make some good points, Vasyl.

Dare I suggest there may be a case for... (wait for it)...

The (Dreaded) Universal Wage?!!!

I understand it's one step removed from communism, and my mate A.I. tells me "No country has implemented a permanent, nationwide, unconditional universal basic income (UBI) matching the classic definition."

But it's worth discussing perhaps?


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