“lacked empathy, but he could also be funny and engaging in conversation. But regardless of what version of Trump I saw in all our time together, it became clear to me in our first post-presidency meeting that there is no way to reasonably interview Trump as a politician. He’s not a politician. There’s no way to ask him about governing. He’s not able to govern. There’s no point in trying to pin him down on his hopes for another term. He doesn’t care about the specifics of the plot during his time in the White House—he just wants to get renewed for another season.”