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Have you tried Agatha Christie? Quite different in style to Sherlock Holmes but excellent mysteries.
Agatha Christie can be really spooky. Tolkien is good, Alex Kava is good as well, Mary Haggins Clark is wonderful I suggest Daddy's Little Girl and All Around the Town by her.
I read Agatha Christie books as a teenager so I might revisit some of those. Did you mean Mary Higgins Clark? She has a lot of books. Does it matter which order I read them in?
Thanks for all your suggestions!
I just finished 'The Woman in White' by Wilkie Collins, one of the early Victorian mysteries. It was great, and I definitely recommend it! It's quite a long novel, but really draws you in.
Thanks I might try that one. Also I found out Charles Dickens wrote some mystery stories too. Anyone out there read them?? Any good?
If you're interested in pastiche, I can recommend The Beekeeper's Apprentice. The subject matter is a bit divisive, though.
I have not been doing too much reading of late but I have been listening to some Agatha Christie dramatisations. I remember reading them as a teenager but now that I have read Sherlock Holmes I have a whole new appreciation of them.
My favourite is Crooked Houseand I can also recommend the classic And Then There Were None.Agatha Christie's are all classic 'whodunnits' usually with a large cast of possible murderers and an unlikely detective who generally solves the crime Sherlock Holmes style by noticing small details.
They are very much of their time so to speak and quite 'British' but easy to get into.
Agatha Christie herself was quite a character and there is a bit of a mystery attached to her as she once went missing for about 2 weeks and nobody knows where she was or why.
There was a Dr Who episode about that very mystery.
I've seen that, it might even be the only reason I know about Agatha Christie! And yay, a Wholockian!!
I thought the episode was ok but not my favourite. Weeping Angels rule!I've just finished Peril at End Houseand I think that might be my new favourite Agatha Christie! I'm now watching the TV version of it (not a patch on the book!)
I went to the library yesterday intending to get an Agatha Christie book,and I got a couple of other books, but completely forgot about the Agatha Chrisie book, so I'll have to get it next time.
I'll have to look for Agatha Christie books when I go to the library. I read the blurb of Peril at End House but what does she usually write about?
I have spent my whole life (since I finished the complete Sherlock in high school) looking for something else to read that was as good! I have read some (certainly not all) Christie and have liked some very much, some not so much. She wrote dozens (hundreds?) of mysteries. Her classic detectives are Miss Marple (the original little old lady detective) and Hercule Poirot, the Belgian detective who lives in London.
I also really liked "The Woman in White," but it is LONG. I LOVE "The Beekeeper's Apprentice" and the rest of Laurie King's series, but some other pastiches are good, like "House of Silk" by Anthony Horowitz -- classic (imitation) Holmes and Watson. A great Victorian period series with an intriguing hero is Anne Perry's William Monk series, which begins with "Face of a Stranger." Monk is a London policeman in the 1880's (maybe? roughly Holmes period) who wakes up one day with amnesia. Good stuff! Oh, yes, Caleb Carr's "The Alienist" has a different take on detection ca. 1900 in NYC, with psychological profiling instead of straight-up deduction. Gripping but a tad gory.
I also really liked "The Woman in White," but it is LONG. I LOVE "The Beekeeper's Apprentice" and the rest of Laurie King's series, but some other pastiches are good, like "House of Silk" by Anthony Horowitz -- classic (imitation) Holmes and Watson. A great Victorian period series with an intriguing hero is Anne Perry's William Monk series, which begins with "Face of a Stranger." Monk is a London policeman in the 1880's (maybe? roughly Holmes period) who wakes up one day with amnesia. Good stuff! Oh, yes, Caleb Carr's "The Alienist" has a different take on detection ca. 1900 in NYC, with psychological profiling instead of straight-up deduction. Gripping but a tad gory.
Why? Do you mean you can't believe she wrote them genres, or you can't believe she wrote them in the same book?
I'm gonna have to look in to a lot of this jazz. Mystery wise, I've never wanted anything but Sherlock, but I should try to be more willing to try other books.
It's hard for mysteries to live up to the "Doyle" standard. I find myself finding most of them trivial at best, and being disappointed that there is nothing else that I have found with the same feel to it. I do like Dan Brown because he takes a lot of time and effort in what he is writing, so even if the mystery falls flat...you're still learning some interesting facts along the way :D
Holmes does not hold a candle to Arsene Lupin, his French counterpart.
Kingkiller wrote: "Holmes does not hold a candle to Arsene Lupin, his French counterpart."Sorry- what is that from? If it's as good as you say it seems like something I would enjoy :)
He's Maurice LeBlanc's answer to Sherlock Holmes. Yeah, you should definitely check him out! :D
I personally much prefer his character, as with Psych again. He's more of a romantic, driven by the loss of his mother to rebel against the society that took her from him. It's p awesome :D
Lapin is the detective from some Edgar Allen Poe stories who uses a deductive method similar to Holmes, but never leaves his house. Holmes is a major improvement over Lapin.
Da Vinci Code is not "well-researched." It's based on "Holy Blood, Holy Grail," which in turn is based on an admitted hoax....http://www.nytimes.com/2004/02/22/boo...
Perkinsmike wrote: "Lapin is the detective from some Edgar Allen Poe stories who uses a deductive method similar to Holmes, but never leaves his house. Holmes is a major improvement over Lapin."
Well you must be some sort of awfully silly troll. That's Dupin you're thinking of, bro. And Holmes added very little to the character.
Well you must be some sort of awfully silly troll. That's Dupin you're thinking of, bro. And Holmes added very little to the character.
The dude is a troll and dissed my favourite. But I didn't really diss Holmes. I have great respect for Doyle, his stories, and his mindset. It's just that I prefer Poe's Dupin... And then Holmes really just wasn't to add very much to the character. I mean it's the same thing completely really: Two dudes pondering on the machinations of man, lending aid to legal authorities where they fall short. The only changes Doyle made were to remove the underlying theme Poe had built his detective stories around, and add Moriarty, the arch-nemesis. And then his writing style is by far inferior to Poe's...
Well hey now, you may not call any of the members trolls. And please respect their opinions. Yes? Yes.
And I've never read Poe's, but I really feel that Doyle created something unique and very un-generic. I wouldn't think of it as 'adding to the character', because they're two separate characters with different ways of thinking and acting. They're too separate stories, and I'd treat them as such.
And I've never read Poe's, but I really feel that Doyle created something unique and very un-generic. I wouldn't think of it as 'adding to the character', because they're two separate characters with different ways of thinking and acting. They're too separate stories, and I'd treat them as such.
Doyle completely ripped off Poe, and what's more, in a rather undignified manner. You should read Poe's detective stories.
Books mentioned in this topic
Peril at End House (other topics)Crooked House (other topics)
And Then There Were None (other topics)
The Beekeeper's Apprentice (other topics)





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