Percy Jackson is Awesome!!! discussion

Okay guys. Before Percy and Annabeth fell into Tartarus

(_ _) O.O >:(

Percy told Nico to lead all the demigods to the Doors of Death. How will Nico react to that? How will the rest of the demigods react to that?

I think someone responsible will take charge.

Like Nico will lead them to the doors of death, sure. Cause no one else (except maybe Hazel) knows where it is.

But he isn't gonna give orders like Scrub the deck! or Man the lifeboats!, you know what I'm saying!

He just isn't going to be able to boss Jason around.

He is a great leader in disguise... ;)

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Maybe, but Nico is a child, hungry and beaten down. Also he has trust issues. I like Nico, I do, but not sure if he'd be the best of leaders.

I didnt say 'best' I just said 'great'..... :)

I didn't say you said that. -_-

He's seen a lot of deaths and is messed up :/

Well, being a child shouldn't make a difference. They're all children and Nico is the same age that Percy was when he first became something of a leader (and Nico has over 2 years experience that Percy didn't have).

They've all seen deaths as well, and if anything that makes Nico stronger because he's overcome his troubles.

As for being hungry and beaten down, that's also no different to any other of the heroes. Look at Percy when he washed up on Calypso's island - he was beaten down and nearly dead, did that make him less of a good leader?

nope :)

I forgot to mention trust issues. I don't really think he does have trust issues, not anymore. He used to, cerainly, but he got past them. Of course he has faults, but every character should. It makes him human.

Yep, fatal flaws....

Nico doesn't seem like a leader. It looks like Hazel will help him or Jason will take charge.

Hazel is far less of a leader than Nico is. Nico manages on his own all the time, he's definitely capable of handling tough situations, planning and taking charge. However, I do agree about Jason, but not because Nico wouldn't make a good leader, just because Jason is a natural leader, even more so than Percy (imo).

Sheechiibii wrote: "Hazel is far less of a leader than Nico is. Nico manages on his own all the time, he's definitely capable of handling tough situations, planning and taking charge. However, I do agree about Jason, ..."

Yea I agree with everything u just said.

I think Percy is a better leader.
Hazel has more confidence for things she cares about. I know she would be just great a leader, better than Nico because aka son and Leo don't trust him even though they can't help it.

Hazel never takes charge of things though, she's constantly looking to either Leo or Frank or somebody else to make decisions for her.

The only reason I think Jason makes a better leader is because of the way he has been raised. No matter how good Percy is, he acts before assessing the situation, it's in his instincts to do all he can to protect the people he loves automatically. Case in point - Annabeth. He went with her into Tartarus, even knowing how important he was in the prophecy, because his feelings control him. Jason is more capable of keeping himself calm under pressure like that, he's used to thinking like a Roman, strategical. That doesn't make a better hero, but it does make a better leader.

Calm down
< my opinion
> your opinion
I have a dream, that one day I can speak that I think without getting criticised.

Percy is always right though, he's made it this far into the series so he is good for something.
Your wrong about Hazel and even if your arent I doubt it.
So you like the romans better than the Greeks?
So Percy's out of one book for protecting his girlfriend!!! Isnt thatthe point of a relationship? You need to care for the person you love.

Whoa, she didn't criticize you, she just stated her opinion :)

I can see where you both are coming from. I think they are both really good leaders.

Percy is a good leader because he cares. He cares about everyone in the quest and will save them. Also, he just naturally knows what to do and is a good fighter. He's just good at leading.

Jason is a good leader because he can keep a straight head, and he knows exactly what to do in certain situations. He cares about the people in the quest and just was... raised as a leader.

Hazel can definitely be a leader, and be the optimistic one and the one that lifts everyone up and comes up with ideas. There are some points, however, where she lets other people take charge.

Um...I don't see where I ever criticised you Melody? I stated my opinions as opinions - "imo". Compared to your nice way of stating facts - "you're wrong". I really don't see how I'm the one who is being unreasonable here.

I was only disagreeing with you. That's kind of what sites like this are for - sharing different opinions and debating. If you'd like to debate with me why not give me an example of when Hazel has shown she could be a leader?

I never said I like the Romans better than the Greeks? I never said there was anything wrong whatsoever with the way Percy deals with things, I only said it isn't a good quality for a leader, being a better leader means working well under pressure, making decisions that benefit the goal, keeping a level head. My preferences as far as characters go doesn't make one or the other a better leader though. We're talking leader traits, not who's a better character...

I didn't say you were being unreasonable.

I didn't say you criticised me.

Do you see your name there?? Its just a Martin Luther King reference.

Yay. For. Opinions.
Debate with you about what? Lightbulbs?.
I'll give you an example when it isn't past twelve at night.

Also, I never wrote you 'prefer' Romans better than Greeks. I askes you if you did. So do you?

Also I dont think Hazel is the best character and I know we aren't talking about better characters excetera excetera.

Also I didnt write that Hazel is the best leader or an amazing leader, Im saying she can be one if she needs to be.

Yeah I agree with that. Hazel can definitely be an amazing, inspiring leader- but not all the the time.

She is deffo a leader over people she cares about like wanting to find Nico.
(i first wrote Leo -_-)

Why have you got feet as your profile pic?

:? (.~.) lol

1. Definitely!
2. Haha idk I just felt like it.... XD

Savannah wrote: "Whoa, she didn't criticize you, she just stated her opinion :)

I can see where you both are coming from. I think they are both really good leaders.

Percy is a good leader because he cares. He car..."

I think there's a very important reason why Hera used Jason and Percy as the swapping delegates, and not just because they were the leaders at both camps. This plays into what was already said, but the fact is they balance each other. Jason might spend too long trying to think about how to attack a situation with a group of people while Percy just blunders ahead. Having them check one another is the most efficient way. And Hazel simply isn't a leadership candidate because she has no drive whatsoever to lead. She prefers to suggest what she has to say and do what the group decides. She's spirited, but in a managed way.

Alice wrote: Hazel simply isn't a leadership candidate...."

Nice of your opinion, but I think she has some potential in her, every has a time to shine.

It just that if Nico is leader, he doesn't seem like the type of kid to me, so Hazel is going to help him.

Sure, everyone has a time to shine, but being a great character and doing great things doesn't have to mean that character is a good leader. You can shine just as well if you're a follower.

Percy told Nico to lead. What Percy says goes.

Nivo isnt a leader. And what Percy says, doesnt go all the time. Percy has loojed up to a lot of people .

*Looked up

"Nico isn't a leader" - in your opinion.

How do you know? Nico has lead himself this whole time, that's a better start than most of the characters (who wouldn't make it very far on their own).

How do you know Hazel can't lead?

When has Hazel shown any sort of leadership qualities? Nico takes care of himself, he makes the decisions, he takes charge of the situation. The only form of leaership we haven't seen from Nico is how he leads other people. With Hazel we haven't seen anything, if I'm mistaken please correct me, but I can't think of a single time she has taken charge.

You're right, doesn't mean she can't be a leader in The House of Hades. Jason doesn't trust Nico, eventhough he apologisedto Hazel. It's about what Rick puts in the book.

Also Hazel has taken charge before.
In the Son of Neptune with the Amazons. She set them free, gaining Arion. The horse, (I think I spelt his name wrong)
She took charge then.

Yeah, and Rick wrote that Nico would be leading them to the Doors of Death...

I know he did. But Rick is writing as all the characters. Sure Nico is going to lead the way when they are in the underworld, but Jason doesn't trust Nico. Neither does Leo, so Leo is going to be looking at Hazel for directions, not Nico.

I really doubt Leo will look to Hazel for directions, she's the one who has always looked either to him or Frank, or whoever else is around for directions. Even when she set the boys free in Son of Neptune, she had no other choice, and she was told what to do by Reyna's sister. Out of all the main characters, Hazel is likely the least leader-like.

That's your opinion. Mine is way different, but I wouldn't bet against it any day. Yeah maybe, she got told but at least she led. I don't aee why you hate the idea of Hazel leading. Sure Nico, will lead part pf it, but not most of it.
I wouldn't bet $500 against Hazel not leading part of the quest. And to be a leader, you need to take ideas, something we have already read that Hazel has done.

I don't hate the idea, I just dissagree that she's more of a leader or a better leader than Nico. I don't think Nico will lead most of it. I think Jason will probably do that, since he has kind of grown up to be a leader. I don't think Hazel will lead any of it, but that is my opinion. I wouldn't bet on it, but I'm not a gambler so I don't bet on anything. If I had to bet on something it would be that the seven and Nico will all survive, that's the only thing I'm nearly sure about.

I do agree with Jason leading most of it. But as soon as Percy comes out alive AND from Tartarus, I be laughing in Jason's face. But I'd also laugh if Percy didn't come out alive (LIE: I would cry my eyes out), because I would be wrong.

A leader is defined as a person followed by others. In this case, I believe all of them have had a point where they are placed in a leadership position whether they like it or not.
There is a REASON why there are so many demigods to this prophecy. They all play a crucial part, and every single one of them has. They will support each other, even without trust issues, because that's the only thing they can do. If they don't, which is certainly possible, that will become a major conflict, and something I expect will occur.
Whether Nico likes it or not, he will be the leader. Maybe not the leader of EVERYTHING. He can't charmspeak or light things on fire, but if Percy wanted him to be leader, he will try. Now, it's a different thing if he's followed. Perhaps he won't get the chance. Maybe he tries and Jason develops a superiority complex and boots him off the boat. Hopefully not.
But I do think Alice made a interesting point of how Percy and Jason balanced each other out.
Maybe Percy meant, 'he will lead you to where you need to go' – in which case, this conversation is inessential.
As for Melody's point, this discussion posed two clashing ideas– that of that Nico is/is not a better leader than Hazel, or Percy is/is not a better leader than Jason and that everyone can lead.
Perhaps they are ALL leaders. They lead different things. Savannah supported that. Hazel has good ideas, Jason can keep his head, Percy knows when to act, Leo can perform well in a tight spot, Piper has power in her words, Frank is an essential fighting force, Annabeth can solve problems quickly, Nico knows where to go and what to do (and I'm sure we'll discover what else he's good for eventually)
DEMIGODS ARE LEADERS. It's part of their blood, especially these demigods.
Not one is better than another. They are different types of leaders capable of different things. Give them a break. When their time comes, they will lead.