The Opportunist discussion

I have never started a discussion before, but I need to vent for a minute. I apologize in advance.

1. What the heck seriously that is the end?
2. A whole book about being an obsessed stalker and then Noah comes out of nowhere has 1 dinner with her causing a life changing revelation? Then she just says something like "i will always have him in my heart" I don't get it.
3. Why pretend to have amnesia and not even go after her when she leaves?!!!
4. There is no talk about how the first time they made love . NOTHING like not even a "I cant believe I finally had sex with Caleb" NOTHING.
5. The whole scene outside of the hotel. I would have felt 100% better if she just said what she needed to and he wasn't behind her listening.
6. Lastly, screw that! Be a home wrecker!!! His wifey is terrible!

AHHHHHHH.... anyway obviously the author did something right because I have been pissed all day and telling almost everyone I talked to about the book that kept me up all night.

jules wrote: "I have never started a discussion before, but I need to vent for a minute. I apologize in advance.

1. What the heck seriously that is the end?
2. A whole book about being an obsessed stalker and ..."

I feel your pain. I'm not one to enter in a discussion either but this book seriously has my emotions all warped up and twisted, and in need of discussing Have you visited Tarryn Fisher's website? There are links to a few interviews she's done that may help clarify some things. There's also a link to some teasers from the second book.

1. What the heck seriously that is the end?
What part of it? It was a frustrating and heartbreaking ending with no closure for me. Olivia moves on with Noah knowing Caleb still has her heart. That is the most devastating for me, for Noah and Caleb, IMHO.

2. A whole book about being an obsessed stalker and then Noah comes out of nowhere has 1 dinner with her causing a life changing revelation? Then she just says something like "i will always have him in my heart" I don't get it.

Olivia finally coming to terms with the consequences of her actions, letting Caleb be with Leah as she wants him to be happy, even if it's not with her, because she learns to love someone more than herself.

3. Why pretend to have amnesia and not even go after her when she leaves?!!!
Caleb searches for her for a year after she left her apartment that night.

4. There is no talk about how the first time they made love . NOTHING like not even a "I cant believe I finally had sex with Caleb" NOTHING.

I don't know what to say!

5. The whole scene outside of the hotel. I would have felt 100% better if she just said what she needed to and he wasn't behind her listening.
That's what's so gut wrenching about it. There's no HEA here which is the biggest punch in my gut, but probably the most honest and truest way to have ended the book. I HATED the ending, but accept it. Tarryn Fisher also commented that she just writes the "truth".

6. Lastly, screw that! Be a home wrecker!!! His wifey is terrible!
The second book, Dirty Red will pick up where Olivia and Caleb last spoke in Rome. Told from Leah's POV. Can't wait!

AHHHHHHH.... anyway obviously the author did something right because I have been pissed all day and telling almost everyone I talked to about the book that kept me up all night.

True story. No doubt a story that left me up all night thinking, crying, mourning, and aching. Tarryn Fisher is GENIUS.

Ruby wrote: "jules wrote: "I have never started a discussion before, but I need to vent for a minute. I apologize in advance.

1. What the heck seriously that is the end?
2. A whole book about being an obsesse..."

Thank you!..

When I wrote that last night I actually (or maybe subconsiously) forgot that Olivia/Noah got married in the end. I read the teaser for the second book and will read it the day it comes out! :)

Oh hell yeah I'm left with so many mixed emotions. Anger, sadness and happiness is not one of them. I mean I'm kinda glad that Olivia atleast didn't end up alone.... But common why..... Arghhhh. The damn hotel scene killed me, like i've cried and felt sympathy for characters from other books but the emotions that they where going through when they where confessing all of there unresolved questions, I actually felt them. It was so Saad, and the whole Caleb not trying harder. I can't wait for book 2

Oh and although not happy about Noah, I think his purpose is to help Olivia grow

You have to read someone else's discussion they started. I was pissed too. I actually thought Caleb was at her wedding (I was wrong, the author said it was some sort of metaphor) Anyway the girl posed the question did Caleb cheat on Olivia or is that what Olivia assumed? I think now he didn't cheat on her he was setting her up and he pushed her over the edge! I think more answers will come out in the sequel Dirty Red! You're not alone I felt so robbed at the end. I am glad Olivia married Noah if she married Caleb she would always be afraid of losing him. Now he's Leah's problem!

Melissa wrote: "oh this book just still gets me twisted up..im gonna re-read it right before i start book 2..definitely more to Caleb than meets the eye..we will surely need a support group for Dirty Red!!"
I'm pretty sure I read somewhere, that Caleb had "Insight" into Olivia and her issues. More so than Caleb pretending to have amnesia I can't figure out why Olivia just didn't take him out to coffee and explain who she is/was. The book could have started with her telling Caleb what a horrible person she is/was and then we could go back in time and she would explain everything to him. He would already know all of this, thus appreciating her not lying to him about what she did. Then at the end of the book he could have said, 'I've always known who and what you are Olivia and I never stopped loving you" The end!

Sara wrote: "You have to read someone else's discussion they started. I was pissed too. I actually thought Caleb was at her wedding (I was wrong, the author said it was some sort of metaphor) Anyway the girl po..."

hi... If I'm not mistaken although I'm not sure how far he went with the little office hussy, I think I remember somewhere it said they where hugged up when Olivia found them like in some sort of compromising position. Arghhhh.... Its kinda his fault because had she not found him in the office party on the day they where suppose to meet up and her lose her V card to him she wouldn't have gone postal and hooked up with that bar stranger. This story is def twisted....can't wait for book two.

Didn't you think it was weird when the girl in his office said, "You must be Olivia, I've heard so much about you". i just don't think Caleb would have cheated on her!

I still cant understand how they finally did "it" under the tree and no one said anything.

Was "it" under "The Tree"? I just thought it was in some random place on their way home. I just don't get why she didn't tell Caleb who she was.

Not THE TREE hahah just a random tree I thought. But still

Thank goodness for all the comments. After reading the book last summer, I felt so unsettled and quite depressed. I'm relieved to know that I was not the only one so affected by the ending. The scene outside the hotel between Caleb & Olivia left a gaping hole in my heart. And how can Caleb be happy with Leah? She's so awful and manipulative. She's the true "opportunist". I hate her! As much as I can't wait for the next book, I'm not happy that it's from Leah's pov. I want to reread but don't want to experience the same dreadful feeling. Hope the 2nd book makes me feel better?
Tarryn Fisher is such a talented writer to have evoked such feelings in her readers.

Maria wrote: "Thank goodness for all the comments. After reading the book last summer, I felt so unsettled and quite depressed. I'm relieved to know that I was not the only one so affected by the ending. The..."

oh god, i totally get u. every time I read that damn hotel scene and can't help it but feel all chocked up. its so painful... i soooooo.... hate Leah too!

Oh that would be fun if we started a book club read for Dirty Red! Anyone one here talented enough to figure that out? I'm not!

Lol.... I'm new to this so I have no clue either. But if u guys figure it out I'm for it. Cuz I know dirty red will def be messing with my emotions.

Melissa wrote: "girls, after reading all your posts here, im getting pissed all over again LOL...i think I just need to reread this book. Lets definitely start a therapy group for the second book!"

For SURE

I just read The Edge of Never. It has a pretty big tear jerker at the end. If you liked The Opportunist you might really like The Edge of Never!

Sara wrote: "I just read The Edge of Never. It has a pretty big tear jerker at the end. If you liked The Opportunist you might really like The Edge of Never!"

I recently purchased it but haven't gotten the chance to read it, but I've been reading reviews about the ending.... So I'm gonna pick it up and read it soon. Thanks

Those are two others books that unfortunately have not had the opportunity to read yet. Lol. I need to catch up.

And I can't wait for Calebs POV.

Hi Ladies, I'm for the Dirty Red support group. I'll definitely need it if it's as gut wrenching as The Opportunist.
Edge of Never is downloaded & on my to read list after seeing pictures on Pinterest of the male & female lead characters. Will wait till after the holidays, don't want to be emotional right now. (HO! HO! HO! and all.)
Thanks, Maria.

The Edge of Never was amazing!! and its a long one :)

lol... im with you on that one. Trying to hold off on the emotional ride. Best after the holidays.

My sister called me crying and was like, 'Would you stop having me read all these tearjerkers" She just finished The Edge of Never!

Sara wrote: "My sister called me crying and was like, 'Would you stop having me read all these tearjerkers" She just finished The Edge of Never!"

Oh man, now I know I really wanna wait on that one... gotta prep my heart for that one.

Melissa wrote: "If you need a laugh in between all the angst and sadness..read Wallbanger by Alice Clayton, or Tara Sivecs Seduction and Snacks series"

Lol... im suppose to be reading Wallbanger but I keep putting it off, keeping reading about damn bykers, guess trying get my fix cuz I have to wait for "Unbeautifully" Arghhhh can't wait! So right now im reading "Sweet Dreams" its pretty good but its no "Undeniable"

Oh man so true!!!! ” motorcycle man” love it.

I'm glad I came across this. I finished the book a few days ago and was so angry at the way it ended, I didn't even check to see when the 2nd book was coming out!

I loved Edge of Never and just finished Charade, bawled my eyes out lol. Just started Wallbanger because I need some relief!

@ Kelly... I started wallbanger and put it off to read edge of never instead cuz I heard its pretty intense so I thought wallbanger would put my soul to ease after this tear jerker.... guess will have to wait and see.

I really like this book, but it broke my heart. I spend like three days very sad...I dont like losing...

Oh wow it has been a while since I read this book but Oh was I pissed at the ending! I can only hope the next book will redeem this story for me...I hope that Caleb and Olivia end up together..

Kelly wrote: "I'm glad I came across this. I finished the book a few days ago and was so angry at the way it ended, I didn't even check to see when the 2nd book was coming out!

I loved Edge of Never and just f..."

I have the Edge of Never waiting in my kindle but I'm scared to read it! Everyone says its sad...did it at least have a HEA??

I'm not going to ruin it for anyone who hasn't read The Edge of Never. If you want to know if it does or doesn't have a HEA click here (view spoiler)[ (hide spoiler)]

Sara wrote: "I'm not going to ruin it for anyone who hasn't read The Edge of Never. If you want to know if it does or doesn't have a HEA click here "

Omg finally finished it.... God cried like a baby....lol

Stacey wrote: "Oh wow it has been a while since I read this book but Oh was I pissed at the ending! I can only hope the next book will redeem this story for me...I hope that Caleb and Olivia end up together.."

I hope so too... I hate that evil Red head!

PLEASE DONT SHOOT ME!!! I LOVE CALEB and I do hate RED...but Olivia was also so manipulative. She didn't want to be with Caleb when he first pursued her. Then when she realizes she wants to be with him he is with someone else and she sabotages it. In a perfect world they would be together but they hurt eachother too much. I don't think I cold get past all of it even if they were together.

@ Brenda
I totally get what u mean, but Cmon let's be honest what girl in real life hadn't pulled a few strings to get with the guy she wanted... Was it right the way she went about it, probably not. But what the Evil Red Head did was just as bad... I think what bothered me the most was that they truly loved each other... Despite the pain they put each other through, which by the way they both had fault and equal participation in the sabotage of their relationship... Olivia did piss me off because I will admit she was childish for most of it, but I'm glad she was able to change and God that freaking hotel scene... I still cry when I read it...

Sasha wrote: "@ Brenda
I totally get what u mean, but Cmon let's be honest what girl in real life hadn't pulled a few strings to get with the guy she wanted... Was it right the way she went about it, probably no..."


Sasha OMG!!! I kept sniffling over and over... Then I was mad at her because end the end when she was marrying Nathan she still imagines CALEB. I would too, but why would Nathen marry her like that?

Noah! I think he marries her because she was open and honest from the start. She thinks she's a terrible person and Noah shows her she isn't. I like Caleb but I think Olivia would always second guess herself and she'd turn into Dirty Red. This way Olivia is free to live a normal life with Noah.

@ Brenda... I know I was mad that she married Noah, but I think the point of him in her life was to make her a better person but I think that Noah when into that relationship knowing that Caleb was her first love and like he said after the first everyone else just follows... He is sweet, but can't help to route for Caleb. I know, I'm a hopeless romantic

Sasha wrote: "@ Brenda... I know I was mad that she married Noah, but I think the point of him in get life was to make her a better person but I think that Noah when in to that relationship knowing that Caleb wa..."

TEAM CALEB...god remember when the bump into each other outside the hotel???? why can't they just leave red? He was so honorable? why why why!!!!!

Ok guys who wants to be a part of my buddy read? Message me and I will add you. That way we can all start reading Dirty Red together! And then bitch together!

Sara wrote: "Ok guys who wants to be a part of my buddy read? Message me and I will add you. That way we can all start reading Dirty Red together! And then bitch together!"

oh, definitely. I'm in.

Brenda wrote: "Sasha wrote: "@ Brenda... I know I was mad that she married Noah, but I think the point of him in get life was to make her a better person but I think that Noah when in to that relationship knowing..."

oh hells yeah.... Def. team Caleb... girl like I said I can't read that scene without tearing up. I swear it gets to me every damn time.

I agree with all of you.
1. "All's fair in love & war.". When Olivia realizes she wanted Caleb, I can't really condemn her actions, which does not even begin to compare to Leah's.
2. Noah seems quite wonderful but she knew him for like 5 min.? She has history with Caleb.
3. "That scene!". Breaks my heart thinking about it. Reading it feels like you're the one going through it.
4. I hate that Dirty Red. She deserves nothing!!
5. Caleb, what the heck? How can you be loyal to Leah after everything she's done? Do you even know how conniving she is?
That's it for now till the second book.
Thanks everyone. Reading your comments really helps!

Sara wrote: "Ok guys who wants to be a part of my buddy read? Message me and I will add you. That way we can all start reading Dirty Red together! And then bitch together!"

Count me in. I think I'll go nuts if I can't vent while reading Dirty Red!

Yes me too !! Although I should warn you. I know I will curse a lot!

Brenda wrote: "Yes me too !! Although I should warn you. I know I will curse a lot!"

lol..... me too.

Maria wrote: "I agree with all of you.
1. "All's fair in love & war.". When Olivia realizes she wanted Caleb, I can't really condemn her actions, which does not even begin to compare to Leah's.
2. Noah seems ..."

I agree.... I hate Leah, and what she did felt that it did not compare.... so evil.

Sara wrote: "I just read The Edge of Never. It has a pretty big tear jerker at the end. If you liked The Opportunist you might really like The Edge of Never!"

agreed! Loved the Edge of Never! I Loved the opportunist as well but had me dealing with too many different emotions! I'm not sure how im going to like reading dirty red when its suppose to be Leah's POV.