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Tensy wrote: "Alana wrote: "Just finished listening to Never Let Me Go. Very deep, very disturbing, very good. I'll have to watch the movie and see what I think in comparison. Anyone else read this one? What did..."
I don't know a lot of people that have watched the movie OR read the book. Did you watch it right after reading the book, or had it been awhile? Was it because they changed story elements or because it was poorly filmed?


I'm kind of glad it worked out that way to make a cleaner break, but had you posted first, I would've kept the thread open for a bit for specific responses.

I'm kind of glad it worked out that way to make a cleaner break, but had you posted first, I would've kept the thread open for a bit for specific responses."
I just found it funny, mostly. It wouldn't let me post, but it clearly had given me the box to post in, so I was quite confused for a moment until I realized you must be right in the middle of changing us over.
I just started Librivox The Turn of the Screw. This one's harder to get into than David Copperfield, which I'm also listening to, and between those and The Brothers Karamazov, which is next on the list, I think I'm going to need a good long break from heavy reading for awhile. How on earth did I end up with all three of those back to back?





David Copperfield is my favorite Dickens. I read somewhere that it was his favorite too and the closest to his own childhood.
ETA: John, I love these new threads each month.

I loved his narration of that series! I gave up on the series around book 9. I was only really into the original brothers.



I want it to be great(!!) but parts of it are lacking...
I'm also finding it hard to believe in the maturity of the kids, despite their circumstances.
Everyone seems to love this book. I was hoping I would too.




I want it to be great(!!) but parts of it are lacking...
I'm also finding it hard to believe in the maturity of the kids, despite their circumstances.
Everyone s..."
I know exactly how you feel! I listened to Ender's Game and kept spacing out while listening. I appreciate that it was written in the 70's and was likely very ground breaking for it's time but I have read/listened to so many fantastic YA dystopian and sci-fi books over the last few years so it was hard not to compare it and find it lacking to some of them. I am still glad I listened to it but feel like the odd man out because so many people loved it.

I want it to be great(!!) but parts of it are lacking...
I'm also finding it hard to believe in the maturity of the kids, despite their circumstances.
Everyone s..."
"Ender's Game" is in my top 5 books of all time, but that doesn't mean every aspect of the book is perfect. At first I found the parts with Peter and his sister--blocking on the name at the moment--unsatisfying, but their role is quite important, so I came to appreciate it. My biggest problem is the female narrator who reads those parts. She sounds like she could benefit from a good anti-depressant.
As for the maturity of the kids, don't forget they were screened for every aspect of their abilities and potential, not just pure intellect. I think one would find similar levels of maturity in kids at any good military academy--though--responsibility, discipline, high expectations, hard work, and training in leadership will produce such outcomes in almost any closed community. But the kids do find ways to express their inner children with pranks and jokes so I don't see them as unreasonably mature.
I'll be interested to hear your opinion after you've finished--it's the climax that makes this book a stunner, after all.

I want it to be great(!!) but parts of it are lacking...
I'm also finding it hard to believe in the maturity of the kids, despite their circumstances.
Everyone s..."
I have a six year old, and found it hard to swallow six year old Ender, but it helped to think of the story as a parallel universe only loosely similar to our own. I found it to be a pretty good story for the most part, but it has it's rough patches at times especially in the last few chapters.
I also enjoyed the second book, Speaker for the Deadand found that it helps to smooth the transition from the first book and has a much older Ender Wiggins, though this book isn't really about him.

The Christmas Cookie Club by Ann Pearlman. I enjoyed this book about friendship and cookies. 4 Stars!
I am now starting Bared to You by Sylvia Day

Tensy wrote: "Alana wrote: "Just finishe..."
I listened to the book first and we read it for my book club. The discussion was lively, but not everyone liked the book. I felt the book was lyrical and I really cared about the characters. Although the acting was quite good, I don't think the story lent itself well to a visual medium and the movie had a very somber atmosphere that was quite depressing. Keira Knightley, Carey Mulligan, and Andrew Garfield were the leads, but I was not as engaged in the film as I was with the book.


I want it to be great(!!) but parts of it are lacking...
I'm also finding it hard to believe in the maturity of the kids, despite their circumsta..."
I'm listening to the prequel of Ender's Game, Earth Unaware, and then plan to pick up Ender's Game. Scott Card does the same thing in this book with 16 year old (and younger) characters that have talents and responsibilities way beyond their years. As an adult, I find myself incredulous and often get irritated that he has the characters doing things children would never attempt (even in some far off future, unless they have been digitally enhanced!), but these books were written for young adults and my son absolutely loved them! I imagine the reason they are so popular is directly related to the fact that the teenagers are NOT treated as children, but in fact, as adults. Isn't that what we always wanted from the grownups when we were young?

Actually, Carey Mulligan plays the lead, and Keira is her friend.


I want it to be great(!!) but parts of it are lacking...
I'm also finding it hard to believe in the maturity of the..."
Good points. I think I even wrote in my review that had I read this book when I was in school I would have probably liked it more than I did as a 40 year old!

I want it to be great(!!) but parts of it are lacking...
I'm also finding it hard to believe in the m..."
In a short story written by OSC we learn about the process of selecting children for the task of defeating the Formics and why they feel it requires children. The story is of an earlier time when Ender's father was tested because of his own genius. BTW, the reason they chose children to train was because they began to lose their edge as military geniuses once they become adults, or so their research had shown.
For me I saw the children as extremely sympathetic characters because they were absolutely robbed of their childhoods in order to save the world, literally. It was a common effect also of children who lived through wars, like WWI and WWII, that they became very serious and mature, coping with things far beyond their years due to circumstances. Some children even participated in the resistance and would probably have looked much like the kids in the battle school if they had been given such training. Ender's Game is also a story based on the concept, "And the children shall lead them..."
As soon as I realized that parents weren't really asked, but forced to give up their children to be molded in to military commanders, I always had it in the back of my mind, what would any of us sacrifice to save the world? I often thought it was too much to ask, then I thought of whether ruining the lives of a few hundred children was justified in order to save the lives of billions and the continued existence of Earth. I never liked the inevitable answer, humans would have to make any sacrifice for the survival of humanity, but we would be a little less human as a result.

Also, I finished "Trapped" of the Iron Druid Chronicles. Oberon rules! I liked this one a lot, better than "Hammered" for sure, and loved having Luke Daniels back bringing all the characters to life. I discovered it isn't a good idea to drink anything while listening to this one--or at least stay away from electronics or dry-clean-only fabrics ;P
I finished "Sticks and Skones", the last intermediate book in the Goldie Catering series most recently made available. I liked it for all the usual reasons and wanted to scream at Goldie for all the usual reasons as well.
I read the first two books in the Wedding Cake Mystery series, the third comes out in January. It's a cozy mystery and not exactly the greatest I've ever read, but I enjoyed them for their low stress, good characters, and relatively uncomplicated plots. Not that they are without complications and a cast of suspects, just not excessively so. Another thing I really appreciated was the inclusion of faith as a natural part of many of the characters lives--going to church, thanking God, or expressing faith in God. I was beginning to think new contemporary writers felt it wasn't--or shouldn't be--allowed.



She ia a great narrator, I just love this series. It is a bit more Adult in the PNR genre.

I want it to be great(!!) but parts of it are lacking...
I'm also findi..."
When children are forced in a military environment that young, it can do very strange things to them intellectually. Look at the child soldiers in places like the Sudan and Rwanda. They clearly have the mind of a soldier, yet some of the emotional processing of a child. Not having read Ender's Game, I assume the books portrays a much more complicated progression to soldier than what happens in real life, but it's still compelling what happens to a young mind. The Hunger Games deals with the same idea, although the children are not specifically trained for fighting.

I love cozies on audiobook :) I have listened to the first 14 Goldy books on audio (give or take a few I had to read in print). Which one is the wedding cake mystery series??

Ha ha ha... This is my biggest problem as well. I am going to ban her from my list of narrators. She expresses every line so breathy and sad and overly-dramatic - even lines which would ordinarily be cheerful. I find myself re-editing in my own voice whenever she's narrating.
P.S. - after searching and searching, I cannot find out who the female narrator is. I am quite serious about wanting to never listen to her again - but I have no idea who she is.

Ha ha ha... This is my biggest problem as well. I ..."
Gabrielle De Cuir--sadly, she also provides narration for the Ender's Shadow Saga, which follows Bean's post-war progress.

Mary Jane Clark writes the Wedding Cake Mystery series--there are only two out so far. The main character is named Piper and she is an actress whose mother has a bakery and who has helped out decorating since she was a child. She ends up agreeing to do a wedding cake herself for a friend who is a famous soap opera actress. Of course, dead bodies start accumulating around the people involved with either the soap opera or the actress, so Piper has to get involved too. The narrator changes from book 1 to 2 but the second one will also narrate the next book coming out in January. I suppose you've already read the Joanne Fluke series with Hannah Swensen?
Speaking of cozies, I pre-ordered the next Needlecraft Mystery, "Then You Dye" which comes out tomorrow.
And, in my ongoing saga to continue my Coffeehouse Mystery series... books 7, 8, and 9 were missing so they added... book 8! Of the two remaining that were missing, Saturday they added--you guessed it--book 9, aaaargh! But I can wait... oh yeah, I have no choice. :(



Now am reading The Age of Miracles - another on the Goodreads list of top books for the year (so I was shocked to see it was also available).

Next is "The Game of Kings" on CDs from the library.


I loved that one.

And I've got an hour left with "The Invisible Gorilla" by Christopher Chabris, and Dan Simons which I am finding extremely interesting and thought provoking.

next up is The Ruby Ring: A Novel which is a review audiobook

Oh I loved that one, and I usually cannot listen to crime novels! But this was magnificent. even got the author's other book The Gods of Gotham, just have not had the time to listen to it yet.

I am very impressed with this author taking on an iconic character like Sherlock is no easy task and she has done it seamlessly! Really liking this one!
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