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message 1: by Gwen ~the Book Diva (last edited Dec 06, 2012 08:42AM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Gwen ~the Book Diva MAJOR SPOILER ALERT!!! So don't read any of the below unless you have read both books! You've been warned! :)

My question is "Why does it hurt so much?" I secretly hoped that Jack would come around and realize that Bekah was an evil bitch and beg Lexi to take him back, he would give her the ring he saved and they would immediately fly off to Vegas and get married leaving that whole Bridges family circus behind! Yes, a bit unrealistic but it would have made me happy! Sadly we find out that Jack stays true to form and continues to be a weasely little douche! But why? It is so hard to separate the person that Lexi (and I) fell in love with to the person he turned out to be. They're like moths to a flame, how can you get over love that passionate! I just wanted Jack to man up and stop being a cheater! The thought of him and Bekah together hurts...alot! Yes, Ramsey definitely helps alleviate some of the heartache but it's not the same. Now Jack and Lexi be will still have to be around each other in the future because of who they are with now! How can that ever work?

Other lingering questions:
-Is Lexi really over Jack like she says, will Ramsey be enough?
-Is Jack really with Bekah because he loves her even more than Lexi or does it help that he's marrying into a wealthy family and has a big shot job now.
-Did Jack's jealously over Ramsey and Lexi fuel him into proposing to Bekah and then he was sort of stuck after that and too weak to do anything about it!
-Who else is as stoked as I am that Bekah will never truly have Jack whole heart or everlasting fidelity?

Gosh, I'm depressed :( Help me out!


message 2: by Stacey (last edited Dec 06, 2012 09:44AM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Stacey Oh my I feel your pain! I was all Team Jack forever until he just kept going downhill and never recovered..smh. I just LOVED the chemistry between Jack and Lexi. I just felt like they went through too much for them to end like that. Jack was just too weak in the end. I do still hold some bit of hope he can be redeemed in the 3rd book..But I think that is highly unlikely. I would at least hope he gets rid of that damn Bekah! She is the devil..ughh!

And to answer some of your questions IMO I don't think that Lexi is truly over Jack and he is most definitely not over her. He does not love that witch Bekah. I think he is just to weak and stupid to let her go. The family money and status also help. I think the relationship with Lexi and Ramsey may have fueled him to propose to Bekah a bit but not 100% the reason. Once again he was just weak and chasing the money/status factor. And I 100% agree that Bekah will never have Jack's true whole heart...that belongs to Lexi. She is just setting herself up for failure if she marries Jack. He will never be faithful to her.


Gwen ~the Book Diva Thanks Stacy! The fact that I'm not the only one that feels this way helps :) I still have a tiny bit of hope that things will workout in book #3 or K.A. Linde is going to have to really keep working at convincing me otherwise!


Stacey Yes I am still holding on to some hope Lexi and Jack may have a HEA....*sigh*


message 5: by Jennifer (last edited Dec 06, 2012 11:43AM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Jennifer I feel your pain!!! I am team Jack and wanted him to man up!! urgh!! I am praying for redemption in #3... never know... what if Jack doesnt go through with the wedding???? that would be great!!


Emma Matthews After reading AC I totally agreed with you all and was team Jack, I really wanted him to come to his sences and realise that Lexi was his girl and no one else would ever be enough and I didn't perticually like Ramsey all that much, but with the direction K.A Linde took AR I can honestly say I much prefered the outcome, Jack has treated Lexi so bad throughout there whole relationship that I think for her to see what real love is like with Ramsey and finally see Jack for who he really is was the perfect ending, after all they've been through they would never be able to have a real relationship, theres too much distrust it would never work and its always nice when a book doesn't take the predictable route.


RelentlessBookChic Ramblings & Reviews I totally am right there with you. After reading AC and hearing there was going to be the second book I was was Team Jack all the way. I just knew he was going to admit how in love with Lex he was, tell Beckah where she could shove her fake ring and be the man he should be for Lex. I could not believe that he stood by and let Beckah tell her that she was always going to be second best.

I think I felt this way because the first book focused so much on Lex and Jack leaving a lot to be desired where Ramsey was concerned. When I started reading AR I almost immediately converted to Team Ramsey.

To offer my opinion on some of your questions:

No, I don't think Lexi will ever stop loving Jack but I think she is finally over the idea of Jack...if that makes any sense. I think some part of her will always love him but I also think now she loves herself more and with that said Ramsey will be enough because he gives her what Jack never could...he put her first.

I don't think Jack really loves Beckah. I think Jack loves what Beckah can do for him. I think that is clarified by that fact that he can't be faithful to her and it is painfully obvious that Lex isn't the only one he was unfaithful with.

YES!!! That is exactly why he proposed to her and I think it also had to do with the fact that if he didn't he was going to tell Lexi how he really felt on a jealous impulse.

ME! ME! ME! I am so stoked that Chyna let the cat out of the bag that he slept with Lexi before proposing to her and even more so that Lexi called him out on his crap!


Carol I am very much hoping for Jack redemption. He is seriously messed up. I have no doubt he loves Lexi. I wonder if he hesitates so much in choosing Lexi because he knows she would be the one to hurt him if it didn't work out. He chooses the Kates and Bekahs because he won't ever be "all-in". He must have seen a lot of pain when his parents divorced and he doesn't ever want to have that happen to him. I like Ramsey a lot, but I don't feel the same "soul-mate" thing with him and Lexi. I also think there is still lingering feelings with Parker. I don't think he would intentionally hurt Lexi, but Parker's comment about "giving up on people" leads me to believe they don't have closure.

And boy, that Bekah is horrible. What an absolute witch.


RelentlessBookChic Ramblings & Reviews Carol, I am a little inclined to agree with you about the Jack redemption but I have a Jack in my life and it has been 14 years and he still hasn't come to his senses. I will always love him but I love myself more. I agree with the reasons with why Jack won't allow himself to be with Beckah but you know they are selfish reasons and I think he needs to man up. I don't feel the soul-mate thing between she and Ramsey either but I do believe Ramsey will be the person she needs to help her move on.


Carol I-Heart-Reading...boy, I couldn't agree more about Jack needing to man up. He is such a coward, but again, I think that all stems from trying to protect himself. I don't know why I really want him redeemed. Honestly, he is such a jerk to Lexi. I guess I'm just a sucker for redeeming the bad boys (in books, that is....). Sorry your "Jack" is an idiot ;-). Jack kind of reminds me of Johnny in "Johnny Be Good/Baby Be Mine" (great little series if you haven't read them). Both are broken men who can't let the one they truly love in.


Gwen ~the Book Diva I~heart~reading wrote: "I totally am right there with you. After reading AC and hearing there was going to be the second book I was was Team Jack all the way. I just knew he was going to admit how in love with Lex he was,..."

Yes, it was awesome how Chyna put it all out there! Of course Jack tried to lie but Lexi wouldn't support him! Loved it! I get what you mean about the idea of Jack. That's sort of what I was saying earlier, the Jack that she feel is love with was different than the person he turned out to be! It's just disappointing!


Gwen ~the Book Diva Carol wrote: "I am very much hoping for Jack redemption. He is seriously messed up. I have no doubt he loves Lexi. I wonder if he hesitates so much in choosing Lexi because he knows she would be the one to hu..."

I like your point, maybe Jack is worried that Lexi will be the one to do damage to him if he fully gives himself up to her. He's less likely to be scarred if he's with Bekah. I just wonder how he can stand to let Lexi be with Ramsey or maybe staying with Bekah allows him to keep tabs on Lexi...hmmm...I love speculating! I think it is really unlikely that Jack can win Lexi over again. He's done waaay too much damage for her to ever fully trust him. He would have to say and do some pretty amazing things for that to happen. I do think that Ramsey is over Parker. Her little scene with him at the end showed how annoyed he was with her if anything. I think that Ramsey really loves Lexi and wants do the right thing by her. He's not her first choice but he is a wise choice as long as he can continue to be good!


RelentlessBookChic Ramblings & Reviews Oh Carol, don't feel sorry for me I am married to a wonderful man who loves me fiercely! My "Jack" on the other hand...well let's just say he has not seen the happiness that I have the past 14 years. I have moved on but always wonder what might have been if that makes sense.


message 14: by Keri (new) - rated it 5 stars

Keri I am so glad I am not the only one. As much as I liked Ramsey in AR my heart will always lie with Team Jack. I hope that in the end in some way Jack is able to redeem himself & he & Lexi will find their HEA because I think that no matter what the events their hearts & souls belong to one another.


message 15: by Bren (new) - rated it 4 stars

Bren LISTEN TO US!!! WE SOUND LIKE BATTERED WIVES..haha.. but really I am also Team Jack and was heart broken that he never changed. Ramsey is a better match and will do. But I feel deep down he is still "coffee house Jack" and in some alternate universe he finds himself and comes back for Lexi. Until then, well I will say at least she gets some kind of HEA with Ramsey.


Gwen ~the Book Diva Brenda wrote: "LISTEN TO US!!! WE SOUND LIKE BATTERED WIVES..haha.. but really I am also Team Jack and was heart broken that he never changed. Ramsey is a better match and will do. But I feel deep down he is stil..."

Hahaha! I know it's sad isn't it! :) I agree with you! Coffeehouse Jack is still in there somewhere and needs to make an appearance soon because right now Ramsey is doing a pretty good job of taking his spot!


Carol I would imagine that the third book is going to have lots of angst (wouldn't be right if there wasn't ;-). I have no idea why I am Team Jack. Seriously, he's such a jerk. I like Ramsey and all...but I'm not convinced Parker is out of the picture. I don't think they have any more closure than Jack and Lexi do. But anyway, I'm holding out hope for Jack redemption. Since book 2 was very Ramsey focused, maybe book 3 will be Jack focused. Also, Bekah must be taken down. No way can she get her HEA. There has to be karma for her.


RelentlessBookChic Ramblings & Reviews Let's not forget a lot of the reason Ramsey harbored such negative feelings for Parker was because he thought that she aborted his baby for selfish reasons. At the pre-wedding blow up the supposed truth came out that she really did miscarry, so maybe there is a reconcilliation in the future for them? It is obvious that Parker is not over Ramsey, they will be working very closely together at the medical center so who knows what may happen. Maybe Jack will open his eyes now that he thinks he is REALLY losing Lex, he has had the option of her always being there prior to this. So maybe since the fire is under his arse so to speak, he will man up.

And yes...we do sound pathetic and hopeless. What is it about these bad boys that we want to save them! LOL


Carol Another thing about Parker....Ramsey said he only agreed to this medical center if he had complete control. If that is the case, why did he chose to work with Parker after the whole blow up with Lexi/Ramsey at the club when they broke up???? I can't wait for the next book. I need another series to tie me over, but I think I've read everything!


message 20: by Stacey (last edited Dec 12, 2012 06:20AM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Stacey Yeah I agree that the Parker and Ramsey saga is not over. Especially with this medical center that is just too convenient for them to rekindle the relationship...I am sure the next book will be even more angst filled...

Ughh all this talk is making me want the next book even more! It has been a while since I read this series but now all my old feelings are coming back up...I really do hope that Jack is some how redeemed. Even though Ramsey is the "sensible" choice for her I still feel like the feelings/chemistry she has with Jack is stronger...


Melanie I too wanted Jack to grow a pair and relize he was acting like a total douche... But honestly, this book was mirroring reality. Happy endings don't always happen. All in all I am very curious to see where this ends...


Kathy M I am in team Ramsey. You know why? BecauseI hate douchebags and I really think that Lexi must be next to Ramsey. Why to stay with someone who will never be with you? Why not be happy?


message 23: by Keri (new) - rated it 5 stars

Keri I am more emotionally connected to this series than I have been with any other book I have read. I am Team Jack & I am also hoping that he redeems himself in the 3rd book. I think part of the issue is that Jack's parents divorce haunts him. Part of me thinks that he loves Lexi so much & is afraid that he is just like his father and cannot bear the thought of hurting Lexi the way that his father hurt his mother. So if he distances himself & doesnt enter into a commited relationship with her he is in some way saving her. I do not think that he loves Bekah. I think that he sees her as someone he can coexsist with without the threat of the guilt of hurting her like he fears he would hurt Lexi (Although he has already hurt her in every emotional way possible).


message 24: by Deon (new) - rated it 5 stars

Deon After reading all of this I am happy to see everyone feels the same way I do. Half of my heart is team Jack the other half is team Ramsey. Jack should have manned up a long time ago..... Wondering what's going to happen in #3 Jack's still holding Lexie's ring... But damn, Ramsey is so freakin hotttt and good for her... Bekah is a spawn of Satan... really hope the wedding gets called off..... Has anyone thought about Adam's brother? hmmm??


Gwen ~the Book Diva Keri wrote: "I am more emotionally connected to this series than I have been with any other book I have read. I am Team Jack & I am also hoping that he redeems himself in the 3rd book. I think part of the iss..."

That makes sense. It's possible that Jack thinks that he is sparing Lexi. She did mention him having deep issues with his parents divorce. He has hurt her a lot already, though especially when he slept with that girl roommate he had. I can't help but feel that he did that on purpose to sabotage their growing relationship. He didn't really try all that hard to get her to forgive him either. I don't know, maybe he doesn't feel for Lexi the way I want him too. Maybe she is a good FWB to him and that's all the effort he is willing to put into their relationship but then again what about that whole ring situation! That's what makes me think that he does feel a lot more for her! Ugh! He's so selfish...and I hate Bekah, just had to throw that in there! :)


message 26: by Gwen ~the Book Diva (last edited Dec 28, 2012 08:04AM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Gwen ~the Book Diva Deon wrote: "After reading all of this I am happy to see everyone feels the same way I do. Half of my heart is team Jack the other half is team Ramsey. Jack should have manned up a long time ago..... Wondering ..."

I know, that whole situation with Adam's brother was sort of random. He could make another appearance but I hope not. I either want to feel overjoyed with Lexi and Ramsey being together or thrilled that Jack came to his senses and found a way to win Lexi back. I can't stand anymore twists and turns with new guys! Oh I so hope that the wedding gets called off but from the way that last scene went before Lexi and Ramsey left, Jack seemed to be kissing Bekah's butt and Bekah made it clear that she was getting married that day to Jack if it killed her!


♡ Sasha -  TEAM ELLIE. ♥	Ok... so yes... I will admit I was so rooting for Jack in Avoiding Commitment... But when he went and did that wham bam thank you ma'am to Lexi at his bday party... I just new his true colors where going to come out... But for him to actually propose to the Wicked witch Bekah ... I lost any hope... and when he fled the office and leftBekahwith Lexi to deal... I was like what a coward... really dude... just walk away like what was going on in that office meant nothing...

His only redeeming feature was the fact that he followed Lexi to the airport to try to make amends and explain about the ring... But as for his weak excuse as to why he proposed... Seriously lame...

I thought after that cliff hanger maybe there would some how be hope and the JACKass would find the courage and grow a pair to go after Lexi... because despite everything I felt that he loves her... forget the bullshit that they went thru... But real honest love... because the passion they shared was just crazy... and at times it seriously pissed me off that Lexi would submit to his every desire... which at the end he proved to not care much...

q&a time... lol...
I truly believe after that circus of a wedding... Lexi has opened her eyes and freed herself of Jack to completely now being to my beloved Ramsey...
I think Jack doesn't love Bekah 100% or even close as he did Lexi... and that's saying much because he didn't act like he loved Lexi... because the girl was always second best... I think he is more into her money and the position in society and work that he is getting out of her...
The reason for the proposal... kinda seems like i dunno meh... I think yes and no... I do believe he was jealous but I also think it was another reason to push Lexi away and brush her off like he always did... (besides who's going to buy the milk when they get it for free) Lexi has just given him sex and he was done...on to the next
If they did get married they will be miserable because the love isn't there... and he is a CHEATER!!!


message 28: by Gwen ~the Book Diva (last edited Jan 08, 2013 01:45PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Gwen ~the Book Diva JACKass! I love it!! I couldn't believe he took off and left Lexi alone with Bekah, either. I also couldn't believe that Lexi even stayed around as long as she did talking to her! I was so hoping she smacked Bekah too!

The ring issue still really bothers me! If he and Lexi do end up together, Bekah wore a replica of it, it's not the same anymore! He deserves to be with Bekah if he's going to remain a cheating ass!

UGH! Jack's a jerk... but I love him still! LOL! I'm really hoping he'll somehow pull through. His answers on that blog yesterday were cryptic enough for me to still have hope!


♡ Sasha -  TEAM ELLIE. ♥	@ Pegwen... yes that interview was freakin hilarious... loved it... But I don't think he is redeemable... after the coward move and lame excuses... But who knows... I know that my heart will ache for Ramsey because he would be great broken for sure... and again I say that in my mind or sexy Ramsey looks like Kellan Lutz... lol


message 30: by Red (new) - rated it 5 stars

Red Pengwen wrote: "JACKass! I love it!! I couldn't believe he took off and left Lexi alone with Bekah, either. I also couldn't believe that Lexi even stayed around as long as she did talking to her! I was so hoping s..."

Where are Jack's answers? To what blog are you referring?


Michelle Every woman part of me is logically telling me that I should hate Jack and that he won't change. But every thing else is screaming for Jack to come to his senses. Ramsey is decent - maybe there is just not enough history there to want that to work. I hate Jack and I loathe Bekah. But the stupid hormonal-unreasonable-ass-backwards woman in me needs Jack to come to his sense and get Lex back!


Gwen ~the Book Diva Michelle wrote: "Every woman part of me is logically telling me that I should hate Jack and that he won't change. But every thing else is screaming for Jack to come to his senses. Ramsey is decent - maybe there i..."
@Michelle, me too! However the more I think about the last time we saw Jack, he was sucking up to Bekah the way he should have been sucking up to Lexi. As much as it hurts to say...I think he made his decision. I' m now at the acceptance stage...how many more steps are there to overcoming addiction?? lol


Gwen ~the Book Diva Sasha wrote: "@ Pegwen... yes that interview was freakin hilarious... loved it... But I don't think he is redeemable... after the coward move and lame excuses... But who knows... I know that my heart will ache f..."

@Sasha, that interview made me so mad at him!!! He still doesn't get it. I'm sticking with Ryan Lochte for Ramsey...I'm saving Kellan for someone else...lol


Gwen ~the Book Diva Jenwace wrote: "Pengwen wrote: "JACKass! I love it!! I couldn't believe he took off and left Lexi alone with Bekah, either. I also couldn't believe that Lexi even stayed around as long as she did talking to her! I..."
@Jenwace, the interview with Jack is at

mysecretromancebookreviews.com


♡ Sasha -  TEAM ELLIE. ♥	@ Pegwen... Yes... I know... Lol... But every time I read about Ramsey I couldn't help think.... Mmmmmm Kellan Lutz...


Michelle Pengwen wrote: "Michelle wrote: "Every woman part of me is logically telling me that I should hate Jack and that he won't change. But every thing else is screaming for Jack to come to his senses. Ramsey is decen..."

lol - The 3rd book with Chyna hopefully seals the deal for us so we can all get to acceptance that Jack is no good. If they bring them close one more time....


Gwen ~the Book Diva Oh I can't take! I forgot all about Chyna's book! If she dangles hope in my face one more time and snatches it away I think I will lose it!


♡ Sasha -  TEAM ELLIE. ♥	yes, Chynas book should be interesting... that girl is quite a character... definitely take no crap from guys... buy I wonder who will be her love interest...


Gwen ~the Book Diva It's that guy Adam I think..


♡ Sasha -  TEAM ELLIE. ♥	YEAH... I think so too... he seemed nice enough... hmmm wonder if maybe she'll find someone hotter


Gwen ~the Book Diva As long as it's not Jack I'm cool! Lmao


♡ Sasha -  TEAM ELLIE. ♥	lol... Yes, enough of him has been around... I had trouble thinking that Lexi was messing around with Adam... I would not be ok with Chyna and Jack... No way!


RelentlessBookChic Ramblings & Reviews From the sneak peak she posted yesterday it looks like it is going to be Adams brother!!! I so don't want Chyna to go there Adam seems to be really good for and to her.


♡ Sasha -  TEAM ELLIE. ♥	wtf... what sneak peek? Haven't read it yet... where can I find it


message 47: by ♡ Sasha - TEAM ELLIE. ♥ (last edited Jan 16, 2013 07:01PM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

♡ Sasha -  TEAM ELLIE. ♥	checking it out right now


♡ Sasha -  TEAM ELLIE. ♥	thanks so much... read it... and hmmmm sounds like there might be more to the brother...


Gwen ~the Book Diva Well wait a minute...didn't Lexi mess around with the brother too! Eew. I don't like where this going... I'll have to read the teaser


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