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message 1: by Kurt (new)

Kurt Springs | 181 comments Mod
I thought I would propose a new topic. Most science fiction dealing with space travel tends to be inside the Milky Way. Occasionally, Star Trek messed around with the edge of the Milky Way, Star Wars took takes place in a galaxy "Far Far Away" but pretty much stays inside that galaxy. The only author I know of (and there may be others I don't know about) who dealt with intergalactic exploration in a big way was Robert Silverberg Robert Silverberg. The two books of his that I know about (only two I've read so far, to be honest) were Three Survived Three Survived and Planet of Death Planet Of Death. The ships traveled between Galaxies using something he called Overdrive.

Okay, that's pretty much what I know about the science fiction of intergalactic travel/civilization. Part of what I want to do in this discussion is figure out what else might be there? Remember, I hold a PhD in Archaeology, but there are still some sites, perhaps famous in popular culture, that I'm not familiar with. There might be excused because my research focuses on European (Irish in particular) Prehistory.

I'm planning to move the Dreamscape Warriors series intergalactic at some point. So I also plan on asking a few questions about things I plan to cover, like how one might defend a galaxy (which has a huge border to cove in three, perhaps more, dimensions) from a hostile incursion. I have some ideas, but I want to here what people think.


message 2: by Kirsten (new)

Kirsten Schuder (goodreadscomkirstenschuder) | 233 comments Mod
There was a movie with Kevin Spacey some years ago where it was never clear if he was a savant, mentally ill, or a real alien. Supposedly, he was an alien from a distant star outside of the Milkyway galaxy, and his knowledge of that star was knowledge only top scientists knew. Then the alien left at the end of the movie and Kevin Spacey was left back in a vegetative state.

We didn't see the travel, but the subject was brought up for discussion.

Who really knows what could be beyond our galaxy. It makes me feel really small to think about things like this. And what about the edge of the universe? Can we ever make it there one day? If so, will we travel with our bodies, our metaphysical bodies, or our minds?

I think about these things sometimes. Maybe we all time travel to an extent already, every time we think about the future or the past. Funny to think about, isn't it?

And the dimensions possible, oh, don't get me started. Maybe when we discover other dimensions beyond our third dimension, we could travel to the far corners of the universe.

In my book, Inside Dweller, my alien demons travel through electromagnetic wormholes. These wormholes have been discovered in the past five years, and there is a portal that opens and closes right near earth above our atmosphere. Because they are part metaphysical and therefore lighter than physical, they can use the energy to travel.

As for other books, you can see I do a lot of reading, but I still need to bone up on my fiction reading to be well versed in the sci-fi genre.


message 3: by R.J. (new)

R.J. | 28 comments Kirsten, the movie was K-Pax with Kevin Spacey.

I thought it was clear that he returned to his home and took one lady from the asylum back with him.


message 4: by Kirsten (new)

Kirsten Schuder (goodreadscomkirstenschuder) | 233 comments Mod
I felt it was open-ended. That's the wonderful thing about stories, though. Everyone has a different way of seeing it.

Yes, K-Pax. I like Kevin Spacey. I think he's done some really good movies.


message 5: by R.J. (new)

R.J. | 28 comments Kirsten wrote: "I felt it was open-ended. That's the wonderful thing about stories, though. Everyone has a different way of seeing it.

Yes, K-Pax. I like Kevin Spacey. I think he's done some really good movies."


They did an extensive search for the lady patient, and never found her. Where did she go if not with Kevin?


message 6: by R.J. (last edited Jul 05, 2015 05:26PM) (new)

R.J. | 28 comments Kirsten wrote: "Supposedly, he was an alien from a distant star outside of the Milkyway galaxy, and his knowledge of that star was knowledge only top scientists knew. "

Actually, the top scientists didn't know what he told them. They were surprised, and didn't know how he was able to give them the solution to their questions about the perturbations of his home planet.

It was a great movie, one of my favorites. The only one who never really believed Kevin was Jeff Bridges, but that was the plot.


message 7: by Alfred (new)

Alfred Eyrie | 18 comments In the UFO circles there is (or was) this guy named Eduard Billy Meier who supposedly befriended an alien family and travelled with them to several locations all over the cosmos. His book is really rare--totally out of print now, I assume--and I was only able to get photocopies of a few chapters from somebody who wouldn't let me borrow his copy of the full book.

There was this part that I remember where they travelled to another galaxy using some kind of hyperspace technology that transformed them into spiritual energy that could go faster than light. He said it felt like they were in "heaven". That's all I can remember, though. The book was called "Message from the Pleaides."Message From the Pleiades: The Contact Notes of Eduard Billy Meier


message 8: by Kirsten (new)

Kirsten Schuder (goodreadscomkirstenschuder) | 233 comments Mod
Awesome! Thanks for sharing. That sounds like an interesting read.

I remember reading a book from a guy who stated he was continuously abducted by aliens. At first, they terrified him, but eventually, they taught him things, like bilocation.


message 9: by Alfred (new)

Alfred Eyrie | 18 comments Maybe this is not exactly the right thread, but I once knew a guy who suffered from mild schizophrenia (his dad is actually in my book, under a fake name). Several years before the Truman Show came out (and Simpsons Hit and Run), he was convinced that his life was really an alien sitcom. He had this whole alternate reality figured out where he was the star and the rest of us who popped in and out of his life were guest stars (Seinfeld was popular, so he often referred to a good friend of mine as "Kramer").

Long story short, when he didn't take his medication, he'd get more into his "role" on the "show". He'd do crazy-dangerous things because he was convinced that "they" would never let him really get hurt.

The weird thing is that...he started to make sense. My sane friends and I started to adopt the philosophy that maybe we really were trapped in some kind of alien entertainment system. Sometimes when a lot of strange things would happen in a matter of a few days, my sane friends and I would joke that it was "Sweeps week" on the alien planet and they were trying to boost their ratings. Then, when the Truman Show came out, we were like "Somebody else has the same idea...or did they steal it from us because they're watching us?"

We also thought the Simpsons was somehow linked to our lives (there was a geographical link, but we did not know it yet). There seemed to be a six-month lag between crazy things that would happen to us in real life and then a gag on the show that was very similar. Then the Hit and Run video game came out, in which the family discovers that Springfield is (of all things) being used in an alien sitcom and the aliens plan to flood the town with zombies to boost ratings. By that time, I had married and wasn't hanging out with mentally unstable people anymore, but the way that game hit so dead on was really creepy.

I'm not making this up, btw.


message 10: by Kirsten (new)

Kirsten Schuder (goodreadscomkirstenschuder) | 233 comments Mod
My father told me that there is no such thing as an original thought. If I was thinking of something,chances are, someone else in the world was thinking of the same thing somewhere in the world right now. That actually messed me up for years, because I thought that t here wasn't a chance I could create something original.

However, t his happens in Hollywood all the time, and it's why producers won't just read your work just because. It 's because ideas are not seen as original. Remember, the Blown Away movies came out r ight around the same time, although one was much better than the other and they were quite different. Also, A Bug's Life and Antz came out around the same time too.


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