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Episode 18: Selfless, Brave and True
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I don't think the Dragon is really dead. He's magic, a simple tazer can't kill him. To be honest, I have a harder time believing the tazer could kill Pinnochio. I mean, come on, he's made of wood, wood does not conduct electricity! lol. I'm just glad they were able to save him.In a way, I'm kind of glad they introduced Tamara to be what she is, the show needed a new villian to hate now that Cora is dead. She and Owen scare me a bit more than Cora did, at least with Cora we knew why she was doing what she did. Not sure of the motive of those two.
Mary Margaret has me a bit worried, not sure I like the direction her heart is taking her.
Mary Margaret will be fine. They wouldn't kill off the show's main protagonist right? I think we can be sure Mary Margaret, Emma, Regina, Rumplestiltskin, Henry and David won't ever die. Mainly because the show would likely suck without one of them. Well, MM, Henry, Emma and David could go... but then we'd be out of protagonists. So yeah. They're probably going to stay annoyingly good forever. Pffft.
I think the Dragon is dead. Remember, August went back three days later to ask him for help anyways, and the guy was still on the ground. IDK how this magic thing works, but I'm pretty sure the tazer killed him. And Pinnochio. Admit it, we all knew August wouldn't remember anything. Mainly because it would be too easy for Tamara and co. to be eliminated.
Somehow I get the sense that Owen isn't really there for his father....
I think the Dragon is dead. Remember, August went back three days later to ask him for help anyways, and the guy was still on the ground. IDK how this magic thing works, but I'm pretty sure the tazer killed him. And Pinnochio. Admit it, we all knew August wouldn't remember anything. Mainly because it would be too easy for Tamara and co. to be eliminated.
Somehow I get the sense that Owen isn't really there for his father....
Really? I'm actually a bit annoyed that Neal's girlfriend is evil. By the end of the episode I had come to terms with it, but I still don't like it much.
And we had another lovely Snow and David mushy scene. Blech.
Why did August become a kid again? How does that make any sense?
I think Owen and Tamara met over the magic, and while Owen is there for is father, he's helping Tamara with her quest for magic as well.
What was with Snow's slap? Where did that come from? The dark spot in her heart randomly makes her lash out with anger? Hu? What the heck? What happened to free choice???
And we had another lovely Snow and David mushy scene. Blech.
Why did August become a kid again? How does that make any sense?
I think Owen and Tamara met over the magic, and while Owen is there for is father, he's helping Tamara with her quest for magic as well.
What was with Snow's slap? Where did that come from? The dark spot in her heart randomly makes her lash out with anger? Hu? What the heck? What happened to free choice???
Oh, Sia. You find all the inconsistencies. Now that I really think about it, this episode was just strange. It had a lot of hype in it though.
I'm just glad they have a new evil person. Tamara... It gives us a reason to hate her, instead of hating her just because she's with Neal and she's not Emma. But I think I hated her from the first scene really.
I don't know why August becomes a kid. But I do know that there is no way the producers and writers would have allowed him to remember what happened just moments ago. It would have ended Tamara's story arc.
Snow's slap was out of place. That's for sure. I think we all believe Regina to be a whole lot more evil than she really is. And the writers are being inconsistent again. They fuzzied the line between good and evil, right and wrong, with Regina. But with Snow, they're saying that evil starts with a dark spot and there's no going back.
So which is it?!
I'm just glad they have a new evil person. Tamara... It gives us a reason to hate her, instead of hating her just because she's with Neal and she's not Emma. But I think I hated her from the first scene really.
I don't know why August becomes a kid. But I do know that there is no way the producers and writers would have allowed him to remember what happened just moments ago. It would have ended Tamara's story arc.
Snow's slap was out of place. That's for sure. I think we all believe Regina to be a whole lot more evil than she really is. And the writers are being inconsistent again. They fuzzied the line between good and evil, right and wrong, with Regina. But with Snow, they're saying that evil starts with a dark spot and there's no going back.
So which is it?!
Lol. Sometimes I really start to wonder why I still watch this show...
But but but... I liked Tamara! I really did. Maybe that's why I'm annoyed she's evil, because I didn't want her to be. She seemed so sweet. I wanted there to be something more about her, but not evilness.
Maybe it's because I just don't ship Emma and Neal...
Yes, I was thinking that too. But in my opinion, if you want to do something strange to work with the plot, explain it. Being given a 'second chance' doesn't really count, because it doesn't really make sense.
I know. Snow's evilness is suddenly pure evil. So is Regina's heart completely black? Does it have a black spot? Why doesn't Ruby have a black spot for killing her boyfriend?
And I really hope the finale isn't Snow purifying her heart. That would make me sick.
But but but... I liked Tamara! I really did. Maybe that's why I'm annoyed she's evil, because I didn't want her to be. She seemed so sweet. I wanted there to be something more about her, but not evilness.
Maybe it's because I just don't ship Emma and Neal...
Yes, I was thinking that too. But in my opinion, if you want to do something strange to work with the plot, explain it. Being given a 'second chance' doesn't really count, because it doesn't really make sense.
I know. Snow's evilness is suddenly pure evil. So is Regina's heart completely black? Does it have a black spot? Why doesn't Ruby have a black spot for killing her boyfriend?
And I really hope the finale isn't Snow purifying her heart. That would make me sick.
Tamara is totally using Neal and he don't even know! Ughhh! I hat that girl I knew she was evil from the moment I saw her.
Ruby probably doesn't have a black spot because it wasn't intentional. it wasn't premeditated murder, like every single one of Regina's were and Snow's murder of Cora was.
Why don't you ship Nemma?! :P
The finale making Snow purify her heart would be super stupid. Is the next episode the finale?! It's in 4 weeks, after the special. I think the finale might be Snow going to the dark side. THey need something to happen after all.
I just realized something.
Regina wants to destroy the little family Snow and Emma have, and Neal is now apart of. He practically has insider information. And Tamara wants magic. What better way to have magic than to be able to do magic? If Regina and Tamara strike a deal.... That Regina teaches Tamara magic, and in return, Tamara will help bring down Snow's pathetic family, then.... THEY ARE ALL SCREWED
@Gigi. Did you know she was evil, or did you simply hate her because she wasn't Emma? You can't simply assume things about these characters. That is the beauty of this show!
Why don't you ship Nemma?! :P
The finale making Snow purify her heart would be super stupid. Is the next episode the finale?! It's in 4 weeks, after the special. I think the finale might be Snow going to the dark side. THey need something to happen after all.
I just realized something.
Regina wants to destroy the little family Snow and Emma have, and Neal is now apart of. He practically has insider information. And Tamara wants magic. What better way to have magic than to be able to do magic? If Regina and Tamara strike a deal.... That Regina teaches Tamara magic, and in return, Tamara will help bring down Snow's pathetic family, then.... THEY ARE ALL SCREWED
@Gigi. Did you know she was evil, or did you simply hate her because she wasn't Emma? You can't simply assume things about these characters. That is the beauty of this show!




Tamara is going to die. And what on Earth is Owen doing with her? This fairy tale drama just went from fairy tale to DRAMA. *shivers* This is so epic.
So. Epic.
I'm loving this. I'm so glad there isn't a love triangle. Technically, the Neal-Tamara-Owen triangle isn't a love triangle. 'Cause it's more like an abusive relationship triangle.
I thought I hated Cora, but you know? I think I hate Tamara more. On the bright side, there's still hope for the Neal Emma relationship. *happy dance*
The episode was pretty well plotted this time. Remember how Anilee used to complain all the good stuff happened at the end? Well, I think it's more spread out now.
I hate it when characters do stupid stuff. For instance, the so-called Dragon. Why on EARTH would he go anywhere near her when she's got a tazer?!
Anyways. Thoughts?