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Christian vs Ryodan



Poor Dancer... he is such a wonderful person! I am so worried his heart will be broken.

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Agreed Katie-- or--- maybe he is just a "puny human" BUT that does not mean that he can't have tricks up his sleeve, or that he is good.. He could have a very dark nature, he lived all over the world with his parents, maybe he picked up some type of dark magic (?) or some such when he lived somewhere else.. we shall see. I can't wait!...


Gods, Katie, I didn't think of that!.. His parents.. Who knows? That adds in a huge component I never thought about.. omgs how about a human looking unseelie prince? but he doesn't act like that-- unless he is hiding it.. I hate waiting too.. another year *crying*
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I'm actually voting for Dancer. I am reading the book for the first time and have about 4 % left of it. I just read the scene when Jo and Ryodan are cuddling while they are waiting for the Ice King to appear. I felt it will be such a betrayal against Jo if Ryodan dumps her for Dani later, and Dani has a good relationship with Jo. I think that Ryodan is doing a huge mistake with any chances with Dani getting involved with Jo and I hope Dani never "forgives" him later because of that. Christian is just wrong.
Also it is a bit predictable and no fun if Dani would choose Ryodan. It would be like the same books as the Fever series: Dani = Mac, Ryodan = Barrons, Christian = V'lane, Jo =Fiona, Dancer = beautiful brown eyed guy (?).

The whole Jo/Ryo thing drives me crazy too. How would Dani ever be able to get over that and the fact that Ryodan sleeps around like crazy? In Iced, I totally hated Ryodan for abusing Dani and being such a total jerk. But then again, it was like Darkfever, where the whole time I was thinking Barrons and Mac would NEVER possibly hook up because he was the hugest jerk of all time. Calling her his latest piece of ass, etc.
Either way, KMM has tricks up her sleeve, and whatever way she takes things I think she will a great job!
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Yeah, and I could really see Jo dying. I wo der what Ryodan's true feelings are towards Jo, since he does show her quite a bit of respect and even affection towards the end of the book.


Nah, the author has mentioned several times that Ryodan is not family related to Dani. Hmmm, but I do have a theory about the books... I will write it a night I have more time.

cant wait to hear!

I like Christian from the beginning of the series! He is going through a lot with the change! I want him to get a handle of this. I'm hoping that he cans found his humanity & not be more screw up after been taking by the witch. Bad enough he is trying to deal with being unseelie prince but now being tortured. Maybe Dani can be that girl who can bring him out the water of been the unseelie prince! Bring Christian close to his humanity with love! Can he have HEA too. OK, I know I'm be sappy over here!
I didn't like how Ryodan physically abuse Dani and use her to work for him! He came off as a bully to me! It was hard for me to listen to my Audio book. I was yelling a lot (lol)! I felt Dani anguish when she swallow her pride to ask for help to get her sword back! I don't care much for any guy hitting a girl! Plus he is to protective of her space!
I like Dancer but I'm afraid that something might happen to him. Hope not! Maybe he is more then what we see beside being smart. He is my second choice. He has a lot nerve to stand up to Ryodan & Christain!
If Dani would choose Ryodan. It would be like the same books as the Fever series. Where as Dani is Mac & Ryodan is Barrons. Christian isn't V'lane. V'lane is so full of hisself and let not forget what he did to Mac!

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I like Christian and I really hope he finds his soul mate, but in Iced I think it is pretty clear that Dani is not attracted to Christian. She thinks he could be a cool ally or friend, but she never seems to actually like him as more than that.
My predictions for Christian: Dani will rescue him from the Hag. Christian will go bad (being Unseelie and all)and hopefully he will end up finding his sexy soulmate who won't be Dani. Who knows! It could happen :)
I also HATED the way Ryodan treated Dani. Ugh. But I still think the foreshadowing in the book leads to them eventually ending up together years later.

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So, want is he? He may not be entirely human...

I didn't mind Christian at times but he did come across a little creepy! I hope that becoming an unseelie prince doesn't totally screw him up, maybe KMM will find away to make him become human again, or maybe not an evil prince!
I really liked Dancer, him and Dani had so much in common and they understood each other so well, in a perfect world I think they would end up together, but this isn't a perfect world!
So saying all that, I would really enjoy seeing how a relationship between Dani and Ryodan would turn out!! I love Ryo!!!

She will probably end up with Ryodan, but I don't feel like he deserves her. Not now that he has a relationship with Jo. I really hope that Dani gets her first kiss from Dancer. I'm actually hoping that she gets her first everything from Dancer, and torments Ryodan.
I'm thinking that the reason for why KMM wrote this awful relationship between Ryodan and Jo is because she is making it OK that Ryodan will not be Dani's first. Because now I'm all about Dani hurting Ryodan for the Jo thing. And I just don't know when/how it would be okey for Ryodan and Dani to get together later because of Jo.

Winnie, I never thought about the Ryodan/Jo/Dani thing like that! It does make a lot of sense!! Which ever way it happens it will be interesting to see how it all plays out!!



Well, Dani is kind of shoving her perfect picture of Dancer in Ryodans face also.

I'm just trying to make sense of the Jo/Ryodan relationship and what it has made me feel... which is just anger towards Ryodan and hope that Dani retaliates.

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You are so right! I totally forgot that she thinks he is "hot". And you are right again he would be great for 1st kiss.. And again, agree that she is in denial. And yet again, agree on your thoughts on Ryo.



-The first thing that draw my attention was the fact that it's turning into another Barrons/Mac situation with Dani/Ryodan. I mean, everyone loves Ryodon so yeah, feck.
-Did anyone notice that Dani is changing? I mean, she's sometimes losing her powers and was fed Unseelie blood. Maybe she's turning into a PRincess?
-I really want Christian to mature a little bit. He was very sweet and quite smart in the previous books but it looks like he lost part of his brains and he's acting like some crazy macho.
-And. Like. Dude. I know Dani is though and loves though guys and all. But dude, did Ryodan like, beat the crap out of her a few times, leave her in a dungeon, made her a slave? And don't give me explanations like he was shaping her personality.
- But, knowing the author, Dani will end up choosing Ryodan. But I really want a different outcome for this.

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No you don't. You're just mad at Ryodan for the beating of Dani and the Jo "relationship" and want him to suffer like the rest of us are craving for. But in the end, you will be disappointed should she choose someone else :)

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I agree! We definitely want him to suffer for the beating and not just for being in the Jo relationship but for throwing it in her face so much. But I do want her to end up with Ryodan like most others. However I don't want him to have her v-card!! Not only does he not deserve it but it will make the story so much more even and better if that privilege goes to another.

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Yup, I also think that the story will be great if she gets her first kiss and V- card to someone else. But as I have pointed out earlier, I think that's the reason KMM wrote the Jo/Ryodan story at all- because we will be more forgiving when Dani is intimate with someone else.




wow, thanx Little Feather! i just checked it out! im so excited!!


Maybe it's because Ryodan and Dani were somewhat foreshadowed in one of the previous books (can't remember which one), but I'm REALLY intrigued by their relationship. I want to see where they are in a few years time. They can't hookup now obviously because it would be creepy and weird, but 10 years down then line? Maybe!
So my preference goes:
1.) Ryodan
2.) Dancer
3.) Christian

I agree completely with the harem idea!! Guys in books have been juggling girls forever. KMM is the perfect author to write a book where the h juggles some hotties! And Dani is the up to the challenge.
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