The Sword and Laser discussion

I've read The Golden One, The Crimson Claw, The Crystal Eye, Tooth and Claw, Raptor Red and Saturn's Children. If you don't count basically human aliens like in Nightfall or Star Wars or anthropomorphic animals, can any of you recommend good Sci-Fi or Fantasy with no humans?

The Cyberiad, Cosmicomics and Flatland all spring to mind.

Doesn't Far-Seer by Robert J. Sawyer only have dinosaur characters?

The Crucible of Time by John Brunner doesn't have any humans, I don't think.

By non-human do you also mean "not derived from humans"? Because the Robert Silverberg novel At Winter's End has people that are descended from humans. Maybe. It's been a while.

There's also a novel whose title I'm blanking on that is only about robots, long after humanity has gone extinct. Maybe it's a novella, but it was longer than a short story.

Looking for the robot story I came across The Bug Wars by Robert Lynn Asprin. Apparently no humans at all.

You could try Tailchaser's Song by Tad Williams. The main protagonist is a cat.

Watership Down.
Trike may be thinking of the Simak story City.

kvon wrote: "Watership Down.
Trike may be thinking of the Simak story City."

That's the one! You rock!

I was going to say Watership Down, someone beat me to it.

Well going into The Graphic Novel area let me Suggest Pride of Baghdad by Brian K. Vaughan as a personal fave... since Watership Down was taken :) Actually not fantasy more based on a true story weirdly but feels like fantasy.
Also with very few people We3 by Grant Morrison (also a graphic novel kind of Sci-fi ish) and the Incredible Journey by Sheila Burnford (not a graphic novel but not sci-fi or fantasy but still great).

Saturn's Children has a sequel coming out in July, Neptune's Brood.

I just got back from Barnes & Noble where I bought -- due to the influence of this thread, no doubt -- a book called Twisted Metal by Tony Ballantyne, which seems to only have robots as characters.

Trike wrote: "I just got back from Barnes & Noble where I bought -- due to the influence of this thread, no doubt -- a book called Twisted Metal by Tony Ballantyne, which seems to only have robots as characters...."

I was considering buying that at one point but heard too many negative comments so I changed my mind. Feel free to share your thoughts when your done :)

Thank you to everyone who posted. This is a really nice list so far.

To those of you who who asked for more specifics; I'm looking for books where no living humans ever show up on camera. For my purposes human derived races will count as non human if they are different both physically and socially.

In Greg Egan's Orthogonal series, the universe doesn't even have the same rules of physics. I haven't read it though.

http://www.goodreads.com/series/59462...

I seem to remember Andre Norton wrote some without humans but it's been years since I read anything by her...so maybe I'm misremembering?

Paul wrote: "Well going into The Graphic Novel area let me Suggest Pride of Baghdad by Brian K. Vaughan as a personal fave... since Watership Down was taken :) Actually not fantasy more based on a true story we..."

We3 is one of my favorites. And the art is gorgeous!

Trike wrote: "Doesn't Far-Seer by Robert J. Sawyer only have dinosaur characters?

Yes, the Quintaglio trilogy by Robert Sawyer is only evolved dinosaurs.

We3 had a lot of silent panels, but was very good.

Darren wrote: "I'd recommend Mouse Guard The Mouse Guard, as a graphic novel without people, since someone mentioned Pride of Baghdad already. "

Yeah I brought up Pride of Baghdad and also endorse Mouse Guard :)

Tooth and Claw by Jo Walton is all dragons.

It's been a while since I've read Redwall, but I don't remember any humans in there.

I assumed Redwall and Watership Down fell under the heading of "no anthropomorphic animals." Maybe not WD as much.