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message 1: by Mojoboy31, Kitchen Ninja (new)

Mojoboy31 | 3210 comments Mod
Ground rules here: if you can't be civil, stay away.
These discussions are very personal, and can become quite heated, so remain polite at all times; no insulting, no berating, and no judging.

Thanks.


message 2: by Dee, YOU'RE A MOD!! (new)

Dee | 2703 comments Mod
Got it!


message 3: by Mojoboy31, Kitchen Ninja (new)

Mojoboy31 | 3210 comments Mod
Also, if you feel like you're being harassed, or trolled, or what have you; please PM a mod to make us aware. With more and more serious discussions popping up, it's harder to stay aware of everything being said, so if you see something iffy, please send a PM to let a mod know.

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message 4: by The Phantom (new)

The Phantom (zerosummations) | 1052 comments Got it.


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Got it.
-Abby


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brooke1994  (formerlynarnian525) | 2099 comments Got it-Narnian525


message 7: by Audie Murphy (new)

Audie Murphy | 135 comments Okie doke! ~Audra


Lostinwonderland Oki!


Lostinwonderland I've been wondering something for a while what if versions of the bible were written by satanists? Just curious


message 10: by [deleted user] (new)

Mar wrote: "I've been wondering something for a while what if versions of the bible were written by satanists? Just curious"

That doesn't make much sense. Obviously, the bible was written by God through man...and it was translated by many different people. But transcribing it would not change the text, and I doubt satanists would be involved anyways...but I suppose it's a valid research point.


message 11: by Dee, YOU'RE A MOD!! (new)

Dee | 2703 comments Mod
Mar wrote: "I've been wondering something for a while what if versions of the bible were written by satanists? Just curious"

What do you mean by "versions of the Bible?"


message 12: by Lostinwonderland (new)

Lostinwonderland Niv, kjv, stuff like that


message 13: by Dee, YOU'RE A MOD!! (last edited Jan 10, 2014 01:30PM) (new)

Dee | 2703 comments Mod
Why would Satanists want a part in translating the Bible and making "versions" with simpler words that more people can understand?


message 14: by notyourfriend, ~Forgive Me~ (new)

notyourfriend (amemori) | 4058 comments Mod
I'm losing it.....


message 15: by The Phantom (new)

The Phantom (zerosummations) | 1052 comments Mar wrote: "Niv, kjv, stuff like that"

So you read the bible in greek do you?


message 16: by Mojoboy31, Kitchen Ninja (new)

Mojoboy31 | 3210 comments Mod
The Phantom wrote: "Mar wrote: "Niv, kjv, stuff like that"

So you read the bible in greek do you?"


Some people do. At least, the New Testament is in Greek. My dad studied Greek, and has a copy of the Greek text. I don't know how to read Greek, but I know how to use a Greek lexicon... It can be very handy when deeply studying a verse.


message 17: by The Phantom (new)

The Phantom (zerosummations) | 1052 comments I know some do. That's the main point of Greek Orthodox...


message 18: by Mojoboy31, Kitchen Ninja (new)

Mojoboy31 | 3210 comments Mod
The Phantom wrote: "I know some do. That's the main point of Greek Orthodox..."

Hmmmmm.... I think the Greek Orthodox are closer to Catholics. They hold on to many oldschool traditions; such as, burning incense, crossing themselves, priesthood, seeing themselves not as separate churches, but one unit throughout. And they speak in Arabic as that's the common language of most of their followers.


message 19: by The Phantom (new)

The Phantom (zerosummations) | 1052 comments They are, yes. They are the most liturgical of all of them.
Pray tell, what denomination would you say you belonged to?


message 20: by Mojoboy31, Kitchen Ninja (new)

Mojoboy31 | 3210 comments Mod
The Phantom wrote: "They are, yes. They are the most liturgical of all of them.
Pray tell, what denomination would you say you belonged to?"


I don't belong to any denomination. I follow Christ. Period.


message 21: by The Phantom (new)

The Phantom (zerosummations) | 1052 comments Do you go to church?
If so, what denomination is the church you attend?


message 22: by Mojoboy31, Kitchen Ninja (new)

Mojoboy31 | 3210 comments Mod
The Phantom wrote: "Do you go to church?
If so, what denomination is the church you attend?"


When I went to church, they weren't denominational. They were just Christian churches. But as of right now, I don't attend a church. (can't find a good one), so we study, and things as a family.


message 23: by The Phantom (new)

The Phantom (zerosummations) | 1052 comments There is no such thing - to my knowledge - as non-denominational. Because denominational means 'named', essentially.


message 24: by Mojoboy31, Kitchen Ninja (new)

Mojoboy31 | 3210 comments Mod
The Phantom wrote: "There is no such thing - to my knowledge - as non-denominational. Because denominational means 'named', essentially."

A denomination would be like "Catholic", or "Jehovah's Witness", or "Lutheran", or "Seventh Day Adventist". Nondenominational just means that you don't follow with denominations.

The problem with denominations is that they follow people. Muslims follow Mohammed, Catholics follow the Pope. Lutherans follow Martin Luther, Mormons follow Joseph Smith and Brigham Young, etc.


message 25: by The Phantom (new)

The Phantom (zerosummations) | 1052 comments Anglicans follow who then, may I ask?


message 26: by Mojoboy31, Kitchen Ninja (new)

Mojoboy31 | 3210 comments Mod
The Phantom wrote: "Anglicans follow who then, may I ask?"

Let me google Anglicans. I've never heard of them.


message 27: by The Phantom (new)

The Phantom (zerosummations) | 1052 comments Church of England. Founded by Henry VIII when the Pope wouldn't give him a divorce. XD


message 28: by Mojoboy31, Kitchen Ninja (new)

Mojoboy31 | 3210 comments Mod
Anglicans are a group within the Church of England, so they follow the crown (the crown is the head of the church of England)


message 29: by The Phantom (new)

The Phantom (zerosummations) | 1052 comments I would dispute that.

They used to; know it is more a tradition than a practice. They pretty much just follow Christ...

How, then, about Quakers?


message 30: by Jennifer (last edited Jan 12, 2014 11:54PM) (new)

Jennifer (gwenhyver42) The Anglican/Episcipalian (probably butchering the spelling here) are prettymuch the same thing as the Catholic church, with a few slight differences –– from what I understand.

I am label-resistant, so non-denominationalism works just fine for me. Some claim it's like a denomination in itself, but it's really not. Basically, I find it ridiculous to have so many divisions within the Church, which is really one body. Some might seem like crazy cousins, but they're still part of the same Church... Does that make sense?

I cringe when words like "charismatic," "contemporary," and "traditional" start getting thrown around in conversations...


message 31: by Mojoboy31, Kitchen Ninja (new)

Mojoboy31 | 3210 comments Mod
Jennifer wrote: "The Anglican/Episcipalian (probably butchering the spelling here) are prettymuch the same thing as the Catholic church, with a few slight differences.

I am label-resistant, so non-denominationalis..."


Amen.... lol


message 32: by [deleted user] (new)

Agreed.


message 33: by The Phantom (new)

The Phantom (zerosummations) | 1052 comments Jennifer wrote: "The Anglican/Episcipalian (probably butchering the spelling here) are prettymuch the same thing as the Catholic church, with a few slight differences –– from what I understand.

I am label-resistan..."


Easily enough differences.
Mainly we are allowed to ignore the Pope and we don't have bishops.
(Why am I saying we???)


message 34: by Jennifer (new)

Jennifer (gwenhyver42) I don't know why you're saying "we"... lol.


message 35: by The Phantom (new)

The Phantom (zerosummations) | 1052 comments Neither do I...


message 36: by Jennifer (new)

Jennifer (gwenhyver42) The Phantom wrote: "Neither do I..."

I know... I was agreeing. lol.


message 37: by Sybille (new)

Sybille Norris | 66 comments Interesting. Makes you wonder why denominations happened. We are to be one body in Jesus. It was His prayer for us to be united,(John 17), and we are when He is the point of belief. A relationship is not a religion. A religion can fragment but a relationship with Jesus is just that. It has no other definition.


message 38: by notyourfriend, ~Forgive Me~ (new)

notyourfriend (amemori) | 4058 comments Mod
Yep, I saw a video once with that question.


message 39: by Jennifer (new)

Jennifer (gwenhyver42) The simple answer: We all see the world differently. There are denominations because there are doctrines that people differ on and can't seem to get past.


message 40: by Mojoboy31, Kitchen Ninja (new)

Mojoboy31 | 3210 comments Mod
Jennifer wrote: "The simple answer: We all see the world differently. There are denominations because there are doctrines that people differ on and can't seem to get past."

Funny how two believers can turn their passion and zeal for God against each other.


message 41: by Jennifer (new)

Jennifer (gwenhyver42) Right?


message 42: by Mojoboy31, Kitchen Ninja (new)

Mojoboy31 | 3210 comments Mod
Jennifer wrote: "Right?"

We humans are such interesting (imperfect) creatures. But He still loves us.


message 43: by Sybille (new)

Sybille Norris | 66 comments Here is a thought. :) Divided you have difficulty getting the job done but united it becomes an easy task. Now the easiest way to have the church that Jesus started fail is to have a split. But, The Lord turns it to His advantage by reaching more people in their understanding,("all things work togethter for good for those who love the Lord and is call for His purpose" Rom 8:28). Now if this would be the case then we should love our brethern and let the Lord work. The result is Jesus is center and we are united.


message 44: by Louis(Andrew) (new)

Louis(Andrew) got the rules.


message 45: by Jennifer (new)

Jennifer (gwenhyver42) Louis(Andrew) wrote: "got the rules."

Awesome!


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