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What are the opinions on this?

Just like with sexuality--it's nobody else's business.

Kaylee wrote: "Fat-shaming. Wrong. I see no other possible answer.

People who are overweight often feel insecure about their bodies, and mocking them for it is just wrong. It's none of your concern."

Yeah, and it's sad. You don't even know the reason for it. maybe they can't help it if they're a little over-weight. They eat the same as everyone else but they have a very slow metabolism. That happens a lot, people.

Well why do you think society has made it so fat=ugly? And that people must be skinny? There's so many people in the world that arent overweight (in an unhealthy manner) but are called fat.

Exactly. Plus, just because you have some fat (and everyone does) doesnt mean you're not healthy. There are all different sorts of body types too.

Its wrong to judge someone on their weight, it could be something medical that causes it you just don't do things to cause offense. Plus weight doesn't affect who the person is.

Ok, as with most things there is a 'positive' use, and I always go back to positive peer-pressure but whatever.

Ok, so say someone is overweight, so much so that its unhealthy. And this person is your friend. Then it's ok if you kindly use 'shaming' to encourage them to start a healthy diet. If, for example, someone is fat because they've had a breakup and ate their feelings out then I think its okay to go 'hey, yeah they broke your heart, but pull yourself together! You're eating like a pig and you're as fat as one, so get your head off your plate and hold it high!' Kinda thing. You get me?

Ella wrote: "Well why do you think society has made it so fat=ugly? And that people must be skinny? There's so many people in the world that arent overweight (in an unhealthy manner) but are called fat."

I know. And you know what? They're humans too. They KNOW their flaws. You don't have to go and say "YOU'RE FAT!" because if they're over-weight, they know they are. And it's not helping anyone to call someone fat.
And the media is awful with the "skinny people are the only beautiful sexy people in the world." Excuse my language, but that's Bullshit! Honestly. So many girls and even guys are anorexic. But that's a different debate, sorry.

@H99
That's just awful.

@Chlo
I'm sorry, but I cant agree with you one your thought that we should use shaming to encourage friends. If they are happy the way they are, then we should leave them alone. If they're unhappy, we should just try to make them happier IMO. Because it's not our body, so we shouldnt try to tell others what to do with it. Please dont take offense.

I cant really stand it when someone skinny walks by, and someone says "Wow they look anorexic." Or uses anorexia as an adjective. It's not an adjective. So dont use it like one.

@Lia
I'm pretty sure all animals are like that. But they arent raised in a society that tells us to change when it should be telling us to accept and love ourselves.

I don't like this. Nobody has the right to shame anyone just because of weight or something.

Chlo wrote: "Ok, as with most things there is a 'positive' use, and I always go back to positive peer-pressure but whatever.

Ok, so say someone is overweight, so much so that its unhealthy. And this person is ..."

Chlo, I get you, but I don't particularly agree. I know a lot of people that are overweighted, say aloud often, 'Gosh, I wish I could lose some pounds but I simply CANNOT DO THAT!', and when you put some attention to their lunch plates they put fried chicken, french potatoes and so on. And then you put some lasagna on your own plate because you have one scheduled day once a week to eat some pasta and have dessert and they go like, 'You shouldn´t eat that, it has one thousand calories!'. So my opinion is, people whining about their 'incapacity' of taking a diet routine seriously is nothing more than they're shaming over themselves before someone else does. And, for the record, what you put or not on your own plate is definitely no one else's business.

Ok, so I think people might have misunderstsood what I was saying - I'm not saying that you should put pressure on your friends who might be over-weight - I think that encouraging people to be comfortable with themselves is above everything else.

I was talking about when it's unhealthy, like very very unhealthy. Take my brother - he's the opposite end of the spectrum he's on the 3rd centile for weight, which means that if he looses any more weight then he'll have to go into hospital and have supplements. There are moments when you're friends go: OMG i'm so fat, and they're really not

BUT then there are situations when you're friend has descended into a state of depression or otherwise, and needs some tough-love to get them back on track. I guess that's more it - tough love, not fat shaming

Simply horrible. I hear kids in my class do it and it makes me sad that this is their thinking

people should be proud of their weight and not diss others. I don't care if someone is overweight. its their body they can do what they want with it. We don't have control over everything

Arwen wrote: "people should be proud of their weight and not diss others. I don't care if someone is overweight. its their body they can do what they want with it. We don't have control over everything"

I know and then they expect you to join in . simply . disgusting.

ugh i hate that humans think they should have control over everything and be able to make others feel bad about themselves.

Me too it is simply pathetic. I mean if SOMEONE decides that that is the way to treat a human being than THEY honestly need some empathy

i don't treat people that way. im not perfect so why should i diss others?

I'm not either

@H99
Yeah. When someone sees another person overweight with their shirt off, they're like: ewww get some clothes on. I feel like smacking them or something.

@Ella- exactly. I watched a video once about what not to do at the beach, and this one person commented s/he hated it when overweight people wore bikinis. People are not offering themselves up for you judgement, they are trying to have fun at the beach.

Fat shaming is bad, but it's even worse if the person is in school. It's almost a given rule that if you're "fat" you can't be with the "it" group. Besides, it's not your concern unless you truly want the best for them, and if they aren't obese, than it isn't your concern. Like, at all. Only between the person and their doctor.

Anyone interested should read this:

http://everydayfeminism.com/2013/07/1...

I love this article. :)

Melissa "Tickyette" wrote: "Tigerlilly wrote: "What are the opinions on this?"

It's a form of bullying. A person's weight is their own business. I hate how someone fat shames and then when you point it out they respond with ..."

Agreed.

I'm going to try to word this tactfully, so maybe this won't sound terrible.

I agree that making fun of someone about their weight or something of the like is totally wrong. TOTALLY WRONG. However, I think that if, say, you had a good friend or family member who, within a short period of time, had gained enormous amounts of weight, it would not be wrong to very carefully and very respectfully voice your concern once. ONCE. Anything past that, such as pestering them about it, unless they SPECIFICALLY ask for help or for motivation, would be crossing the line into fat-shaming. But respectfully and kindly telling someone that you're concerned about them ONCE would not be "fat-shaming."

I don't care about people's weight, BUT other people tend to care for things that shouldn't matter.

I don't understand these people. What good it'll bring them to shame or embarrass those who are quiet ,happiness? Happiness in embarrassment of other people.
How can they stoop that low? Seriously, where's their brain?

They can give good advices, NOT give more insecurities.

I think if your gaining weight or already weigh above "average" is no ones business until its get really bad or close to really bad like you can't get out of bed bad. Also some people might be going through tough times and it might make them eat/not eat and being rude to them about their weight isn't going to make them feel and better.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/fit-mom-an... lol

Think if people are proud of what/how they are, they shouldn't feel offended in the first place... (: