The World of Shannon Hale discussion

Well, any ideas? I say we do something completely new. Or should we take ideas from the last one?

Okayyy, yay! Do you have any thoughts on something completely new?
I've noticed that our last two rps have had sort of to do with revolting slash rebels slash going against the crown.

So maybe something else? What about a time/place where everyone is a speaker?

That's a thought. I like the idea of someone (maybe just a few characters or maybe it could be a partial plot thing) having to learn a speech or speeches instead of just having established speeches as we often have done. It would be fun to sort of explore what it's like to have a speech before you really get comfortable and skilled with it.

Ok. That sounds interesting. Maybe we can have some sort of school where people learn to use Speeches (cause everyone has them) and then one of the characters can be Speechless, another can already know how to use theirs, another can wish they had a different Speech etc...

Maybe something like that, yeah. So okay, if everyone is a speaker, would it be like everyone everyone, or just Bayern (assuming it's in Bayern)? And I guess either way, maybe the school could also have upper level training for recruits to be in the king's army or something. We wouldn't need to have this, but it would allow more advanced speakers at the school and might cause more drama or something.
Personally, I like the idea of a school or something but I think we should stay away from the only plot source being the school and classes and whatever. Because then it's just like a school rp with speakers.

I feel like it would be just the country, whatever country that may be, or at least they don't know so much about other countries.
What if there are different levels of society that are marked by the speech? people with only animal speech would end up being servants, people with one speech would be the working class, two speeches is already slightly higher up, anyone with three is almost noble, and anyone with people speech is taken to the castle to rule?

Oh, well that would be really interesting. Also because you need two speeches to be balanced and all. But maybe that could be where the school or whatever comes into play. Like it could be a small group of people that realized the effects of one speech, or just want the greater good, so they start teaching others speeches or secondary speeches to raise their standing. The group could also be an effort from the King or whoever's leading to make all of his people better, if we wanted to have a genuinely good king. Hmm. But that's if we want to bring in the school idea still. Which we wouldn't have to because this whole social standing thing could be it's own thing.
And for the country thing, IF we wanted to incorporate this, we could have them use speakers in their military because it is unique to them. But that's sort of not complimentary with the social standing thing and I like that idea a lot.

Oh, oops, I forgot you need the speeches to be balanced :P
Maybe those with only one speech are like the madmen of society, because they can't control themselves.
We don't need a school thing. Whatever you want.
The military idea is interesting. Maybe we can work with that. Like, one of the characters can be a captain or something.

Yeah, maybe the people with an unbalanced speech are like shunned by society (but if we needed another plot complexity, we could have someone go out to balance the unbalanced and do them a deed or something.)
And I just think the military option could be possibly be promising because we could have people looking for skilled speakers and other people desperately wanting to be in the army without enough skill and then we could actually have them have to fight at some point because then we wouldn't only have to have training all the time. The only thing is that military might not be too exciting either because that's a pretty generic rp idea.
Well, we could also make it like an elite military group of speakers know as the Golde down.n Rank or something and then it's a little different.
I don't know. I'm just sort of typing whatever path my mind suddenly finds its way

The thing is, wouldn't people just teach them another speech? Unless they don't know the concept of being unbalanced, and you're shunned the moment you start overheating/going mad/whatever you do when you are unbalanced, and no one knows the reason, except this one guy who figured it out and he/she goes to help them?

I like the elite group thing. They can be like a special missions group, not really military.

Lol, I'm doing the same :)

Yeah, what you said there about the unbalanced thing, I think that makes sense. Like most people are just like "Ew, the shunned ones" once they start going crazy or showing signs of it. But then maybe one person or a small group of people were crazy and unbalanced but found that another speech balances, so they go out to try and teach the crazy a balancing speech, even though society looks down upon it.
Oooo, special missions might be cool. By the way, I meant to type "Golden Rank" and then "whatever path my mind suddenly finds its way down." Gosh, stupid laptop mouse pad haha.
Okay, so now the question is... do we have both of these going on simultaneously but unrelated to each other? Orrrr maybe the people that go and balance the crazy ones also recruit some of the skilled, newly un-crazy people into this special missions group because if a speech has driven you crazy, you're probably pretty familiar with it by the time someone balances you. That might be a way to relate the two plot ideas. And, at least to me, it makes sense that the special missions group might want the crazy people after they've been balanced because they'll know at least one speech wayyy better than someone who learned a balancing speech at the same time as the first speech. And my ramblings sometimes don't make sense so... example: If Isi would have learned fire really close to after she learned wind, she never would have gotten to the point where she's so familiar with the wind that it eats at her. So to the special missions group, she might look more applicable than someone who is just recreationally familiar with two speeches because neither speech has ever forced itself onto said person and forced said person to become incredibly skilled with that speech.
Oh gosh, does that make any sense? And it's also just an idea if we wanted to connect the two plot ideas. We could also like pit them against each other or something.

Omigod, omigod. This is what happens when I don't go on Goodreads enough. Awesome stuff happens and I miss out. :/

Random idea.... Could we do a crossover? Like... Princess academy meets Bayern?

Hmm... How were you thinking of connecting them? That could be a good idea.

Missy- the unbalanced ones knowing the speech better makes a lot of sense. How about this- the leader of the special units group was once unbalanced and he discovered the secret of getting balanced and keeping sane, and also realized that he was better at his speeches than others, which is why he became the leader of that group. Now he's trying to find the best of the best to join him, so he's looking for the unbalanced people to balance them, because he knows that not only they are the best, but they will also be loyal because he saved them from insanity. How does that sound?

Lol Klyme. How would we do a crossover?

I think that sounds really good. :)
However, maybe the way we could incorporate a Princess Academy theme is like maybe this leader or someone set up a small school type setting to balance these people and set them up for the special missions team. Like that's how I could see to do a crossover. However, I'm not sure if that's what Klymene was thinking when she suggested that.

The Princess Academy world isn't special as a world, only because of it's characters, no? So I don't see how we could do a good interesting crossover

Confession: I wasn't thinking... I was too lazy to read through it all. Which means, what I'm about to say might be completely irrelevant.

So PA had a bit of speeches too, right? Technically it was quarry speech, or linderstone wisdom or what not. What I'm thinking is kinda like the crossover that happened in Bitterblue by Kristin Cashore. The first two books in the series were about essentially two completely different worlds, separated by an insurmountable mountain range. Each book was dedicated to a single upheaval in one of the worlds. Then, in Bitterblue, the third book in the series, it's all combined. So... what if the Bayern people suddenly realize there's another country, whatever the PA country was called, on the other side of a mountain range, send some people over, kinda like in River Secrets and these Bayern speakers have to figure out how to keep on the good side of these people who don't know about speeches and stuff.

Lol. You should go read it. Or at least the last few posts...

Ok, so if we're going with army attacking other kingdoms that are speechless, this could work..

Yeaaaah... Maybe we could tie this all together. Because if they were going to going into any other country, they might send in the special missions team (if we still wanna go with that). But then if the country doesn't know anything of speeches, then it would be an interesting challenge for the special missions team and anyone they meet.

Kay, guys, I officially need to back out. :(
We're going to England and then Norway and will be away for five weeks, so... YAY! But also no RPing for me, which is boo. Anyway, have an awesome one and I'll have to read it when I come back!

Wow! That is a lot of traveling! Well, have fun, and maybe you'll still be able to jump in when you get back. Who knows, we might not even be that far along. But either way, enjoy your trip.

So the special missions team is going to the country, but they at first have to hide their powers? does that make any sense?

Wow! That's so much fun! Have a great time in Norway and England! I'm soooo jealous!

Um... to be completely honest, you can't count on me either

I'm going to Disney world in a few days... and then a week after we get back, I'll be heading out for a study abroad in China. XD For a year. :D Love you all

But seriously, I do love you all. You guys were part of my college apps and my app for the study abroad scholarship :D

That sounds so cool! Have fun!

Missy? Do we still continue just the two of us?

Oh gosh, I don't know. I mean, I'd be willing to try it but it would be a bit weird for each of us to have a bunch of characters. But, I have done this with one other person before and it worked out fine. :)
So I'm saying, that I'm up for trying if you are, and if it still ends up dying, then we'll live because it was dead before.

O.o Why don't you guys just write a spin-off story between the two of you?

It could work. I've also done a two person RP and it's probably one of the better RPs I've done. Besides, I think the both of us have had our times when we've RPed just our characters for a while :)
We could have like two main characters and a bunch of side ones.
Ooooh, we can do a spin-off of the last RP, and due Juanrid and Rosalyn(I think that's the names) before/after. Or we can just start something new. Whatever you want :)

Hmmm that's a thought. Yeah maybe something big happened in the kingdom and now they are not in the castle or maybe they are in line for the crown or something. That could be good.

Ooooh, Salenk abdicates after the whole story with evil lady or something, and only both of them are left to fight for the throne (cause they're twins), and they thought at first they would work together, but then each pushes their own agenda, and they start going against each other, at least on the political side, trying to win the crown, but they don't really want to hate each other but they both think the other just wont be good and don't see why the other thinks they will and and and- I think it could be good :)

Heyy, yeah that sounds interesting! Now, how could we tie speakers into this? Like one of them wants speakers trained to work for the government (slash ruler or whatever) and the other one wants them to become an equal part of society or something? Because I don't think either one would want to encourage the current like almost discrimination against speakers.

But the thing is, they can't be in the 'everyone is a speaker' country because neither of them have speeches, no?

Yeah, that's right... Hm... Well maybe it's not the 'everyone is a speaker' country. Maybe it's just where they are currently where a bunch of people are speakers but it's definitely not everyone. But speakers are the issue up for discussion because the regular people can be handled as they always have I guess.

By the way, I'm moving up to college this week, and then starting classes and stuff, so I apologize in advance for probably not being on super often. That's also why I've been replying slow recently. I still wanna try to do this rp, but the first few weeks of adjusting to college might keep me away from Goodreads. So just a heads up :)

I think I'd rather actually RP the new idea rather than the twins. What do you prefer?

Don't worry, I've also just started a new program, not exactly collage, but something similar, also boarding and with very little internet access and time, so we're both in the same boat. We can take it slowly :)

Okay :) And yeah, sure, I would be happy to start fresh. That's the fun of new rps! So, are you saying you wanna go with the special missions team idea?

I think so.
Should we try to sum up the idea and start?

Sure! So, are we going with ranks of how many speeches you have, or was that scratched? And then did we agree that the 'crazy' unbalanced people are somewhat shunned by society? I think the things we agreed on though were that one unbalanced 'crazy' person became balanced and ended up on the special missions team (do we have how this person accomplished this? Or maybe this person moved up in the military and then creates the special mission team?) and realized that his/her abilities with the one speech were far better than the other speakers who had learned two speeches right from the beginning. So then he/she goes on to be a recruiter for the special missions team and purposely goes into areas where the 'crazy' unbalanced people usually live and recruit them after teaching them a new speech.
Thoughts: Since this original recruiter would probably only have 2 speeches (because 4 is too much and in my mind, it seems like 3 speeches would still kind of be unbalanced but we can discuss that if you want), then maybe another recruiter or the opposite gender and opposite speeches comes with the main person. This way, every unbalanced person they recruit could be taught a balancing speech, even if the main person didn't know the right speech to balance them. And then I guess there aren't necessarily specific speeches that balance others but kind of... But either way, then there could be a romantic possibility between these two recruiter people if we wanted.
By the way, when I say "the main person", I'm just using that instead of saying he/she all the time and this doesn't mean that this person is actually the main character haha.
And then, do they recruit people speakers? Because you can't really teach that.... but it could be an asset I think.

I like the two main recruiter people idea. Romance always adds to everything, doesn't it? But I have a feeling one of them is very interested in the other, and the other just sees them as a work partner, all business :)
What if they don't know people speech exists? That could be interesting. Or they kill them the moment they realize what they are because they are scared of them.

Also, another interesting twist could be is that the recruiters don't recruit everyone they see. They wait until the people have struggled long enough with their original speech so that they know it perfectly, otherwise there's no point. What do you think?

Hmmm those both seem really interesting. I think with people speech maybe they lock them up in solitary confinement because there are no people to talk to there.
And yeah, that would be super interesting, and maybe one of the recruiters wants to wait longer than the other for the people to lose it.

Or they juts, you know, kill them, and there are some fugitive mothers that ran away with their people speaking children, etc.
Ok, that could work.
So, wanna start?

Oh yeah, that works. Okay yeah, let's start making some charries!

Yay!

So hi. I'm just gonna insert in here. I'm pretty sure I get the gist of the plot now. Whee!