The Seasonal Reading Challenge discussion
FALL CHALLENGE 2013
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30.6. Beth NC's Task: Ancestry
Would this work for Irish decent?This author moved back to his home country though
he was born in New York.
Angela's Ashes
LOL Option 1: my maiden name was Polish (with lots of consonants) don't think any authors have that name. Option 2 is more likely for me, as I have a choice of Poland (father) or Italy (mother).Just did a goodreads search with my maiden name -- no results found. I figured that would be the case.
How much variety on the first name is OK? My name is Christyna, unusual spelling, but I like it. My family calls me Christy and I go by Chris and Christyna. Can I look for any of those (or, more likely, Christina or Christine)?
Deedee wrote: "LOL Option 1: my maiden name was Polish (with lots of consonants) don't think any authors have that name. Option 2 is more likely for me, as I have a choice of Poland (father) or Italy (mother)...."
Deedee by any chance your maiden name is Brzęczyszczykiewicz ? ;)
I checked my maiden name in the local library and all it came up with was a series of vocabulary books for adult learners of English (all under 100 pages). For my first name I found The Most Beautiful Mathematical Formulas (where Coralie is just the illustrator) and a book on child care.
Like many people, I am a but of a mutt, with ancestors coming from many different countries (Germany, England, France, Holland, Ireland, Scotland, and maybe a couple others. Can't remember off hand). So I could pick any of those countries?
I love this challenge - I have been involved in genealogy for over 15 years. Mostly I do my husband's family but I also have quite a bit of information on my own. But my maiden name is not a very common one. And lucky for me I am English with some more English and then some more English. So that will be easy.
This is really hard for me. Having a unusual first and last name, I was not able to find a book for option 1.Option 2 is also a problem, as I'm from Germany, and as far as my family knows (which is not that easy with two World Wars having destroyed a lot) that was always the case. So my ancestors came from nowhere except where my family still lives today, Germany.
As it seems I have to go with Option 3 & 4, I would really like to know how near has to be near for me. Will a non-fiction book about Germany fit, or do I have to look for something more regional, like something about the Rhineland, the part of Germany I live in today?
For option 1, like Chris I'm wondering if we can count short forms that we are known by, e.g. Rose and Rosie as well as Rosemary?For option 2, expanding on Fandury's comment, if all of our known ancestors came from the same country that we still live in, can we read a book set in our own country?
- Or could we pick one that's set in a different region that we know one ancestor came from (e.g. I was born in Essex and now live in Oxford but I know I also have ancestors from Devon, Yorkshire and South Wales, could I pick one of those regions)?
- Or can I say, since my father's family is from Essex in the south-east of England for as long as we can trace, it's virtually certain I will have some Norman and Roman ancestry going back a millennium or two, so I could pick France or Italy?
Not everybody's families have moved around that much!
Rosemary and Fandury make some interesting observations. What if your family hasn't moved around a lot? I did a lot of genealogy work a number of years ago. My father's side came over on the Mayflower and my mother's side came over with the Puritans. Most of my family has been living in the same area south of Boston for 400 years - but we still say we're of English descent. (Well, actually, a couple of relatives moved to Canada during the Revolution; both my grandmothers were born in Canada, so I tell people I'm half-American and half-Canadian. Drives my Canadian friends nuts! :-) Very interesting task, though!
Kathy G. wrote: "Would this work for Irish decent?This author moved back to his home country though
he was born in New York.
Angela's Ashes"
Yes this works for Irish descent
Deedee wrote: "LOL Option 1: my maiden name was Polish (with lots of consonants) don't think any authors have that name. Option 2 is more likely for me, as I have a choice of Poland (father) or Italy (mother)...."
This is why we have more than 2 options, and don't forget you can use first name also.
Chris wrote: "How much variety on the first name is OK? My name is Christyna, unusual spelling, but I like it. My family calls me Christy and I go by Chris and Christyna. Can I look for any of those (or, more li..."Any variation of Christina works
Kathryn CA wrote: "Like many people, I am a but of a mutt, with ancestors coming from many different countries (Germany, England, France, Holland, Ireland, Scotland, and maybe a couple others. Can't remember off hand..."Yes you can
Option 1: Love in Mid Air by Kim Wright (Surname: Wright)Option 2:The Picture of Dorian Gray by Oscar Wilde (Set in England)
Leslie wrote: "I love this challenge - I have been involved in genealogy for over 15 years. Mostly I do my husband's family but I also have quite a bit of information on my own. But my maiden name is not a very c..."Leslie, I would guess your family is English? LOL Glad you like the task
Fandury wrote: "This is really hard for me. Having a unusual first and last name, I was not able to find a book for option 1.Option 2 is also a problem, as I'm from Germany, and as far as my family knows (which is not that easy with two World Wars having destroyed a lot) that was always the case. So my ancestors came from nowhere except where my family still lives today, Germany.
..."
So a book set in Germany will work for you in option 2>
Will a non-fiction book about Germany fit, or do I have to look for something more regional, like something about the Rhineland, the part of Germany I live in today?
The part of Germany you live in......
Delmy =^.^= wrote: "I am going to read, forOption 2: The Shadow of the Wind set in Spain
Option 4: East of Eden"
Those are both very good books. Enjoy
Rosemary wrote: "For option 1, like Chris I'm wondering if we can count short forms that we are known by, e.g. Rose and Rosie as well as Rosemary?If you go by the short form of you name, then you can use that. For example I am named Elizabeth but I go by Beth. So I could use Beth as an author's first name.
For option 2, expanding on Fandury's comment, if all of our known ancestors came from the same country that we still live in, can we read a book set in our own country? ..."
Yes you can use your own country if your family has been there many generations.
- Or could we pick one that's set in a different region that we know one ancestor came from (e.g. I was born in Essex and now live in Oxford but I know I also have ancestors from Devon, Yorkshire and South Wales, could I pick one of those regions)?
Any of these regions would work for you in this task.
- Or can I say, since my father's family is from Essex in the south-east of England for as long as we can trace, it's virtually certain I will have some Norman and Roman ancestry going back a millennium or two, so I could pick France or Italy?
You can't use France or Italy unless you know your ancestors came from there.
Chris wrote: "Rosemary and Fandury make some interesting observations. What if your family hasn't moved around a lot? I did a lot of genealogy work a number of years ago. My father's side came over on the Mayflower and my mother's side came over with the Puritans. Most of my family has been living in the same area south of Boston for 400 years - but we still say we're of English descent. (Well, actually, a couple of relatives moved to Canada during the Revolution; both my grandmothers were born in Canada, so I tell people I'm half-American and half-Canadian. Drives my Canadian friends nuts! :-) ..."Wow, I know you are proud of your family history. You could use America, England and/or Canada for this task.
Claire wrote: "Option 1: Love in Mid Air by Kim Wright (Surname: Wright)Option 2:The Picture of Dorian Gray by Oscar Wilde (Set in England)"
Those work great
I wanted to get these okayed:Option 1 - Megan Meade's Guide to the McGowan Boys by Kate Brian (my name is Kathryn but I go by Kate. Author's name is Kate)
Option 2 - Callander Square (set in England and I have ancestors who came from England)
Beth NC wrote: "Fandury wrote: "This is really hard for me. Having a unusual first and last name, I was not able to find a book for option 1.Option 2 is also a problem, as I'm from Germany, and as far as my fami..."
Ah, thank you for explaining this. I had understood for option two that the ancestor has to come from a different country than the one you live in today. But then I think I will be able to find something to read.
I love that my family is from England...haha! I think I have some german in there somewhere - but i'd have to go and pull my genealogical charts to make sure...with a name like weidmann
Kathryn CA wrote: "I wanted to get these okayed:Option 1 - Megan Meade's Guide to the McGowan Boys by Kate Brian (my name is Kathryn but I go by Kate. Author's name is Kate)
Option 2 - Callander Square (set in Engl..."
Approved
Fandury wrote: "Beth NC wrote: "Fandury wrote: "This is really hard for me. Having a unusual first and last name, I was not able to find a book for option 1.Option 2 is also a problem, as I'm from Germany, and a..."
Glad to help
Dee wrote: "I love that my family is from England...haha! I think I have some german in there somewhere - but i'd have to go and pull my genealogical charts to make sure...with a name like weidmann"Hopefully this task will get some people looking into their genealogical charts. It is interesting and fun to do.
Yes, it is! When I first started researching my husband's family I spent 5-6 hours a day on it. His family has been in New Orleans since 1699. Lucky for me that meant french and catholic. They are great at keeping records!! I was born in New Orleans and have lived there for quite a few years in my life, but my family is not from there. So if I decide to read a non-fiction book, can it still be about New Orleans?
Leslie wrote: "Yes, it is! When I first started researching my husband's family I spent 5-6 hours a day on it. His family has been in New Orleans since 1699. Lucky for me that meant french and catholic. They are ..."Yes because Option 4 is from your hometown, which can be interpreted to be town you were born in or town you lived in most of your life.
Beth NC wrote: "Rosemary wrote: "For option 1, like Chris I'm wondering if we can count short forms that we are known by, e.g. Rose and Rosie as well as Rosemary?If you go by the short form of you name, then you..."
That's great, thank you! I think a lot of us had misunderstood option 2.
I am of Irish and German descent so would the book Those Who Save Us work for option 2? The reason that I ask, is because it seems like the book goes back and forth between Germany and the U.S. I wasn't sure how much of the book was set in Germany. Thanks!
Option 3...I was born in Sag Harbor, New York, so I searched for Sag Harbor on Goodreads and was amazed to find Voices of Sag Harbor: A Village Remembered. This is a book in which "Residents reminisce about the village's colorful past." Table of Contents in the preview indicates that most of the residents quoted are people I know. I see my Godfather, Priest, neighbors, friends of my parents that are still living, shopkeepers, etc. My father (who passed away over 30 years ago) is listed in the index. I'm going to postpone my purchase until September, as I know I'd read it today if I bought it. What a great task this is!
My family on my father's side was researched and it could not be determined for sure how the family got to the US nor, for sure, what country the family originated in. Seems the name might have been German Grüber, which is pronounced very close to GREEVER. But no proof has been found.I have no info on my mother's side but the link speculates that STULL is also German Stuhl.
Since neither of these is more than speculation, do I use Germany or stick with US?
Regarding my name - I have two names. The first name I do not use and have seldom ever been called. However, I can probably find an author with that name. My middle name is a diminutive of a name; however I was only given the shortened version BEA. So can I use my first name even if it is not what I am known by or should I stick with Bea?
Michelle wrote: "I am of Irish and German descent so would the book Those Who Save Us work for option 2? The reason that I ask, is because it seems like the book goes back and forth between Germany and the U.S. I..."At least half the book should take place in Germany. It doesn't look like that is the case in this book.
Theresa~OctoberLace wrote: "Option 3...I was born in Sag Harbor, New York, so I searched for Sag Harbor on Goodreads and was amazed to find Voices of Sag Harbor: A Village Remembered...."Theresa I am glad this task brought something good into your life.
Bea wrote: "My family on my father's side was researched and it could not be determined for sure how the family got to the US nor, for sure, what country the family originated in. Seems the name might have be..."Since the last names come from German names, or seem to and you don't know for sure, you can use Germany or the US
Bea wrote: "Regarding my name - I have two names. The first name I do not use and have seldom ever been called. However, I can probably find an author with that name. My middle name is a diminutive of a name..."You can use either one....
I picked option 1 & 2:Option 1 - The Gabriel Hounds - same last name
Option 2 - Echoes - the book description states that they are in Dublin. I have ancestors from Ireland.
Lacy wrote: "I picked option 1 & 2:Option 1 - The Gabriel Hounds - same last name
Option 2 - Echoes - the book description states that they are in Dublin. I have ancestors from Ireland."
Those work, enjoy
Beth, being African American, my family and I don't know where I ancestors hailed from truly because there aren't records past plantations. So, I was wondering if I could read any book set in Africa assuming that my ancestors were brought over as slaves? It's not a country but I don't have anything more specific than that.
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Genealogy has made a comeback in the last few years. Everyone wants to know the stories of their families and where they came from. So for this task, you are going to use your ancestors to pick the books you read.
Read two books, each from a different option.
Required – specify in your post the options you chose.
Option 1 –Read a book where the author has the same first or last name as the name you were born with.
Required: State the name you used. Spelling can vary.
Option 2 –Read a book set in the country from which one of your ancestors came. If you are not sure of the country or countries, you may be able to get some help from this website: Surname Origins. Required: State the country from which your ancestor came. If the setting is not obvious in the description please tell how it fits this option.
Option 3 –Read a non-fiction book set in or near your home town.
This can be your town of birth, of current residence, or the town in which you grew up. The same state is considered "near."
Required: State home town and setting of the book if it is not clear.
Option 4 –Read a book from
Fiction Based on Author’s Ancestors
Optional: Talk to an older member of your family about your family history.