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message 1: by Lisa (new)

Lisa (lisadannatt) | 1038 comments Mod
A place to discuss SA music


message 2: by Adele (new)

Adele Mey (adlemey) | 485 comments Oooo! Check out Elvis Blue, people!! So proud of calling him south african


message 3: by Lisa (new)

Lisa (lisadannatt) | 1038 comments Mod
Gangs of Ballet were at the Waterfront this weekend. Incredibly soulful.


message 4: by Lisa (new)

Lisa (lisadannatt) | 1038 comments Mod
Nickleback in CT 11 & 12 December! So gonna go!
(yes Adele, I know all about finals:-D)


message 5: by Adele (new)

Adele Mey (adlemey) | 485 comments Bastille is coming to Kirstenbosch un January! It will be magical!!


message 6: by Lisa (new)

Lisa (lisadannatt) | 1038 comments Mod
So Shaun Jacobs opened for Nickleback- they were awesome. Very proud of this home grown group.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7aK5RUrRBQ
www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGw-y7_Vrj8


message 7: by Buck (new)

Buck (spectru) The only SA music I know is what Paul Simon brought back to America with him, when he ignored the sanctions. Ladysmith Black Mambazo.


message 8: by Adele (new)

Adele Mey (adlemey) | 485 comments Check out shaun jacobs. And elvis blue. Brilliant


message 9: by Lisa (new)

Lisa (lisadannatt) | 1038 comments Mod
Will judge you based on Jack parrow. That's cringe worthy stuff.


message 10: by John (new)

John Mountford (killmandela) | 735 comments I'm with Vicki. Love Jack Parrow - an Afrikaans original. Lighten up, Lisa!


message 11: by Lisa (new)

Lisa (lisadannatt) | 1038 comments Mod
No ways! Sucks big time!
Agree with Prime Circle- my favorites by far.
Other weird stuff Fokoff Polisiekar & Die Antwoord
Buck, have you ever heard Mac Stanley? Or Seether- did a song with Amy Lee from Evanescence- they're ours.


message 12: by Adele (new)

Adele Mey (adlemey) | 485 comments No Jack Parrow for me pleeze!!!


message 13: by Lisa (new)

Lisa (lisadannatt) | 1038 comments Mod
Lol Vicki! I don't call that poetry, it's an ear worm!


message 14: by Lisa (new)

Lisa (lisadannatt) | 1038 comments Mod
Hosh Tokolosh?
All the residents of Westminster's poets corner just died if fright!


message 15: by Lisa (new)

Lisa (lisadannatt) | 1038 comments Mod
All the talk abou Tablemountain reminded me of Just Jinjer's song Table Talk:

If Table Mountain could talk
What would she whisper in the Lions (Head) ear?
What kind of Signal (Hill) would she give, to the hill?

And if she spoke spoke loud enough
Could she perhaps get through to Chapman (Peak)?
Or did he lose his peak, years ago, years ago?

Just imagine, La da da da da, la da da da da da da
This is Table Talk
La da da da da, la da da da da da da
This is Table Talk

If Table Mountain could sing
Do you think she'd be into Elvis?
I have a feeling she's always been into rock of some sorts

And if our mountain could think
Do you think she'd be into Plato?
Or did she give up long ago, and let the Cape win her Point

What's the point?
Just imagine, La da da da da, la da da da da da da
This is Table Talk
La da da da da, la da da da da da da
It's on the Table!

If Table Mountain could say anything,
What would she say?
If she could only say
What would she say?

I cannot find an audio version


message 16: by John (new)

John Mountford (killmandela) | 735 comments Lisa wrote: "All the talk abou Tablemountain reminded me of Just Jinjer's song Table Talk:

If Table Mountain could talk
What would she whisper in the Lions (Head) ear?
What kind of Signal (Hill) would she gi..."


The song is new to me, but it won't be for much longer. I am planning to put together a music track for KILL MANDELA, together with a short video, and this one will be the opener. Thanks, Lisa.
Table Mountain and Robben Island were both characters in the book - brothers, in fact:

'The first chapter was complete. There, he proposed that Cape Town’s geology was a mirror to its history: Table Mountain and Robben Island personified the uneven struggle between the high and the lowly on this southernmost tip of Africa. The brave Portuguese had battled the storms, the local Khoi-Khoi tribes had tried in vain to resist the Dutch, the Xhosa had fought and lost nine frontier wars against the British and the boers, and now the final conflict – the struggle for power between blacks and whites. Jack shivered, and turned himself to the sun to steam off his wet shirt.'

'The shoreline that faced Table Bay and Cape Town, Jack knew, was littered with the wreckage of many victims. He once asked Klaas why this was so – why the landward edge of the island was so much rougher. The weather-beaten skipper shrugged: ‘They don’t like each other!’ He gestured at the island and the mountain. ‘They fight. They throw the tides at each other.’ This was fanciful but Jack liked it, jotted it down, and it went into chapter one of The Mountain and the Island.'

'The story began three centuries back, with the arrival of the Dutch in Table Bay. Up ‘til then the mountain and the island had worked well together, in symbiotic brotherhood. Despite their apparent differences in geography and stature, they were in fact related, connected to one another by a six kilometre- long saddle under the sea. Brothers! Jack felt a pang at this. He and Alpheus. Mountain and island. Part of the self-same nature, distinct, but connected beneath deep waters.
Both features had their faults: the mountain had no head; it was cut off at the shoulders, so that instead of a soaring peak the best it could offer was a flat top; the island could only get its nose into the air, with the rest of its bulk hidden deep beneath the sea.
Yet, despite these deformities, they’d worked well together. The mountain’s broad flat tabletop became a thing of wonder to the passing seafarers and drew them in, despite the dangers of the stormy bay; the island served as a refreshment station, stocked with seals and penguins as an alternative food supply when the storms rendered the mainland inaccessible. And so they’d combined their talents, on these southern African shores, as hosts to mariners from West and East.'


message 17: by Lisa (new)

Lisa (lisadannatt) | 1038 comments Mod
I just couldn't find an audio link


message 18: by Sarah (new)

Sarah | 155 comments John wrote: "Lisa wrote: "All the talk abou Tablemountain reminded me of Just Jinjer's song Table Talk:

If Table Mountain could talk
What would she whisper in the Lions (Head) ear?
What kind of Signal (Hill..."


Awesome! I can't wait, John! :-)


message 19: by Irene (new)

Irene (zavrou) | 122 comments Go to 'You Tube' type in Just Jinger, Table talk......


message 20: by Lisa (new)

Lisa (lisadannatt) | 1038 comments Mod
Irene wrote: "Go to 'You Tube' type in Just Jinger, Table talk......"

Tried, neither wanted to download:-( must be an issue with my iPad.
Need to try from desktop.
We've missed you Irene, where've you been?


message 21: by Lisa (new)

Lisa (lisadannatt) | 1038 comments Mod
Yay! Worked. Thanks Irene.
Cape Town May 2013 with Just Jinjer's Table Talk - YouTube
► 4:52► 4:52
www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFPjORhdUQU


message 22: by Irene (new)

Irene (zavrou) | 122 comments Don't worry Lisa I have been stalking all of you........ Listening, learning, agreeing, disagreeing and staying silent!


message 23: by Lisa (new)

Lisa (lisadannatt) | 1038 comments Mod
O no! Why silent? You say such cool stuff and have a different perspective


message 24: by John (new)

John Mountford (killmandela) | 735 comments Lisa wrote: "Yay! Worked. Thanks Irene.
Cape Town May 2013 with Just Jinjer's Table Talk - YouTube
► 4:52► 4:52
www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFPjORhdUQU"


Thanks to you both, Lisa and Irene. I am so excited to have this song to include in the total experience of KILL MANDELA - and by a SA band nogal! I am going to put a link to it on my website.


message 25: by Irene (new)

Irene (zavrou) | 122 comments Love that..... nogal..... Is it on SA Slang page?


message 26: by John (new)

John Mountford (killmandela) | 735 comments Irene wrote: "Love that..... nogal..... Is it on SA Slang page?"

Nogal. Some things you just can't translate. Afrikaans is like that - a raw, expressive, quirky language. I'm English speaking, but I get more laughs from Afrikaans. My wife is Afrikaans, and we speak it often. Would you believe that Adele is Afrikaans? Her English is so good.


message 27: by Irene (new)

Irene (zavrou) | 122 comments It is a word I use over here in Ireland and my friends have now got used to me and my 'strange' words!


message 28: by Lisa (new)

Lisa (lisadannatt) | 1038 comments Mod
Irene wrote: "It is a word I use over here in Ireland and my friends have now got used to me and my 'strange' words!"

Thought of you the other day, my husband was referred to as 'laanie' by a bergie.


message 29: by Irene (new)

Irene (zavrou) | 122 comments Lisa, that brought a HUGE smile to my face!


message 30: by Adele (new)

Adele Mey (adlemey) | 485 comments Thanx John! You flatter me.

Have you heard the u2 song that won a golden globe last week for a specially written song for "Long walk to freedom"? Called Ordinary Love. Its a good song.


message 31: by Lisa (new)

Lisa (lisadannatt) | 1038 comments Mod
Irene wrote: "Lisa, that brought a HUGE smile to my face!"

He then says to me- That's Stanley's word, right?


message 32: by John (new)

John Mountford (killmandela) | 735 comments Adele wrote: "Thanx John! You flatter me.

Have you heard the u2 song that won a golden globe last week for a specially written song for "Long walk to freedom"? Called Ordinary Love. Its a good song."


Yes, I did. I enjoyed the song in the movie. In fact, I enjoyed the movie immensely, but have found that every black friend or associate I have did not like it. Zakes Mda hated it.


message 33: by Lisa (new)

Lisa (lisadannatt) | 1038 comments Mod
John wrote: "Adele wrote: "Thanx John! You flatter me.

Have you heard the u2 song that won a golden globe last week for a specially written song for "Long walk to freedom"? Called Ordinary Love. Its a good s..."


What did he think was wrong with it? I'm looking forward to the book so that I can compare.


message 34: by John (new)

John Mountford (killmandela) | 735 comments He felt that the movie lacked emotional depth, esp. the character of Mandela. I told him that this, for me, was one of the strengths of the movie. I was pleased that Anant Singh did not play to Hollywood with too much dramatic sentiment - it allowed me to make of the story, and the man, what I wanted. Zakes still disagreed - he felt that you do not have to go Hollywood lengths to instil the characters with emotional depth. He has a point.
I think generally, black people feel that Mandela the freedom FIGHTER was underplayed and Mandela the RECONCILER was overplayed. Many believe that whites in SA and the western world have hijacked Mandela for their own agenda. If they were able to be honest, they would say that he failed the revolution, but that is difficult for them to declare in the face of Mandela's
virtual canonisation by the world.


message 35: by Lisa (new)

Lisa (lisadannatt) | 1038 comments Mod
Off to K-day


message 36: by Adele (new)

Adele Mey (adlemey) | 485 comments Lekker! Enjoy!


message 37: by John (new)

John Mountford (killmandela) | 735 comments Adele wrote: "Lekker! Enjoy!"
You two talking in code, again. K-day?


message 38: by Adele (new)

Adele Mey (adlemey) | 485 comments Its a music festival by KFM held outside of stellenbosch. All local bands


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