Debate discussion

What do you all think about North Korea? I mean they're going crazy. These rogue nations are really hounding Obama all of sudden.

He needs to add a little threat into his diplomacy. I don't mean for him to act on it but at least threaten to take action! I mean seriously, no country in the world would try and call America's bluff, it be suicide.

Japan needs to raise their defense spending, anyone agree?

And we all know, or you should, that N. Korea won't act without China's consent on ANYTHING. So that could become a major problem.

Anyways what is your opinions on this?

I found them scary before. Then I discovered that Kim Jong-il is only just starting to listen to his 'military hardliners'. I find them very scary now. North Koreans also worship the ground he walks on. So you have a nation that has citizens who are fanatical about their dictator leader, who in turn has ordered missile launches and nuclear warhead testing, and is only now listening to his 'military hardliners'. They've also threatened South Korea with a military strike and have an army that is nearly a million strong. They are so secretive that hardly anybody knows what's going on there half the time. Probably the scariest nation in the world today.

I agree with that. They would be stupid to attack south korea because we will just back them up again.

Course Korea won't do anything without Big Mama China's approval so...if N. Korea attacks S. Korea, we will also have to deal with N. Korea ALONG with China. It will NOT be fun.

It will NOT happen anytime soon, China needs us. Maybe when they become economically independent, but not anytime soon.

Yes, well apparenlty N. Korea isn't getting the memo because they're becoming very hostile very fast. Maybe they won't wait for China's approval. And if we're lucky, and thank god what you say is true, China will just bail out or team up with us.

Because we might be in an economic slump but we are still the country that scares the shit out of everyone ;)

If N.Korea attacks, we will FUCK their world up.

Yes, yes we will :D Though it will be hard to make it more fucked up than it already is :P

Also, I have a question for you. Are we in an economic slump because the WORLD is in an economic slump OR is the world in an economic slump because WE'RE in an economic slump?

I thought of this because of how intertwined the entire world is with us, and I was curious :P I know I used economic slump to much but it was just easy to say :P

"is the world in an economic slump because WE'RE in an economic slump?"

In this case, we started the fire but many others added fuel to it.

Okay. So, basically, we were going down so we brought everyone with us, haha. Kind of sucks but at the same time it helps us, so that no one gets too strong while we're weak? Does that make sense?

Kyle wrote: "Okay. So, basically, we were going down so we brought everyone with us, haha. Kind of sucks but at the same time it helps us, so that no one gets too strong while we're weak? Does that make sense?"

No. It doesn't help us, at all. It fucks us in fact.

Really? But if another country got super strong why we're economically weak wouldn't that be bad? Course militarily they still wouldn't stand a chance but still.

We don't NEED to be the best nation at all times.

We're too far spread out not to be. Don't we have like the largest foreign affairs in the world?

Kyle wrote: "We're too far spread out not to be. Don't we have like the largest foreign affairs in the world?"

I would say so, yes.

So really in the long run it just can't be helped.

Kyle wrote: "So really in the long run it just can't be helped."

Kind of, yea.

Hey I got like half a point in a discussion with Davis. My day is complete :)

Well dude, im out. I gotta sleep. I'm gonna finish the essay for Jayda tommorow.

See ya man

They just fired another test missile today... And they slammed the UN xD That was pretty funny. I haven't read much on it though because I don't have the time. I need to get ready for a sleepover ^^

i know this might sound mean, but north korea is what Japan was before we dropped the atom bomb. I think they need to be dropped with a fusion bomb that we havent used yet. :)

Haha xD Chan, that was hilarious!

And about Kyles comment about China:

When north Korea tested the nuc, China was like WHAT THE F***!?!?

SOOO.. yeah.

It could've been act but your right.

Of course now that China knows, they can keep a handle on N. Korea.

Nah we shouldn't bomb N. Korea, Obama should just politely say "Stop threatening us and the world or the United States will light up your country like the fourth of july, okay?"

I still can't believe that pic of N. Korea and S. Korea...how dark it is? Its so sad :(

xD

North korea seruously scares me though. And for a democrat whos totally against violence, they are a AERIOUS threat and im interested to see how the fusion bomb will pan out.

Lol Obama will say that and then they'll test another nuc on US! Well probably not. But doens't the fusion bomb look SO COOL?!?! iTs WAY WAY WAY cooler than a fission bomb, plus they already HAVE fission bombs, so busing that nuclear fusion seems like a good idea right about now.

Look at Pre-WW2 japan. Isolationist, testing missiles, threatening the whole WORLD, wanting to own an ocean, and just being really really crazy and ridiculous and scary.
Now look at North Korea, isolationist, testing missiles and nuc's, being LIKE REALLY REALLY crazy and threatening the whole world!

We have already dealt with a situation like this (and in my points of view we handled in the best we could have, seeing as there wasn't really anything else we could do. Why are we even hesitating? We know that they aren't going to stop, so why are we not using super duper cool fusion bomb yet!?!?

i mean we have to go through the whole "Declaring war process" lol.

War is not something to take lightly.

I think it was Einstein who said that he didn't know what kind of weapons would be used in the Third World War, but that the Fourth World War would be fought with sticks and stones. This is the kind of devastation we would be talking about should this ever happen.

Devolution, I suppose. Back to the algae and all that, once the Earth recovered.

Nothing can grow in place of nuclear radiation. Our world will be fucked.

I think the world could take care of North Korea before we had it came down to WWIII.

NO ONE WANTS WWIII except N.Korea and Iran. I can't believe I'm saying this but Obama can take care of them..hopefully. If he can't and N.Korea attacks..Obama will have no choice but to retaliate, he will be pressured into it by every country in the world.

Basically, the world complains about America being the world police but when something really bad starts happening they forget about that and run to us for help. Sorry...I hate double standards/hypocrisy and other nations are very good at those two things when it comes to the US.

"2160575 Nothing can grow in place of nuclear radiation. Our world will be fucked. "

A Nuclear Winter won't last indefinitely.

"Devolution, I suppose. Back to the algae and all that, once the Earth recovered."

And truthfully, can De-evolution even happen?

Isn't like the meaning of evolution the irreversible evolution of a population over time?

Devolution is a misleading term. The world does not return to a primitive state, moreover, everything complex is destroyed and the only thing LEFT is primitive organisms, and now that the big guys are gone, have room to start evolving.

Ahh, that would suck. The world having to start over again I mean...

Primitive organisms and cockroaches. Trust me, cockroaches will rule the world eventually.

It's amazing, how resilient life is.

Lauren wrote: ""2160575 Nothing can grow in place of nuclear radiation. Our world will be fucked. "

A Nuclear Winter won't last indefinitely. "

Do you realize how long nuclear fallout stays around? It's still in Japan.

"Do you realize how long nuclear fallout stays around? It's still in Japan. "

I see it on the scale of a million years.

That's a mere 64 years. When describing a nuclear winter, we are not talking in the terminology of mere mortals such as ourselves. The Earth was built for the long haul, and life would creep back eventually. I doubt we'll be masters of the universe though.

Well, my friends, if we do enough nuclear damage, there may no longer BE a planet Earth.

If we could colonize another planet, we could survive longer. Terraform Mars?

Lauren wrote: "If we could colonize another planet, we could survive longer. Terraform Mars? "

I think that is the long term goal haha

Well, we could send rovers over to do it, we don't have to ourselves. We have machines to build the stuff, we just need a long-distance way to control them, or a program that can compensate for errors.

If its possible that life once existed on Mars, then chances are oil is also there. Then the shit will really hit the fan.

We need star trek technology! :P

So we can travel to planets really quickly and all that good stuff :P

We cannot achieved warp speed without internal dampeners to prevent us from splatting on the wall, in any case. Plus, the structural integrity of the ship would have to be astronomically strong.

*yes, I am a Star Trek geek*

Well then scientists need to get on that now don't they :P

Its sad really. Not that I am dismissing the efforts of the many space programs in existence, but out of the all money that is spent on it, we can only manage the primitive idea of strapping ourselves to a rocket and lighting the fuse.

That's all we can do. We have no other fuel at this point with that much power that is safe enough. Nuclear power?