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message 1: by Rachel (new)

Rachel In honor of Banned Books week, which is September 22-28 this year, I figured that we could talk about banned books: whether we think they should be banned and why they have been, and which ones we've read and how we liked them.

Banned and Challenged Classics:
1. The Great Gatsby, by F. Scott Fitzgerald
2. The Catcher in the Rye, by J.D. Salinger
3. The Grapes of Wrath, by John Steinbeck
4. To Kill a Mockingbird, by Harper Lee
5. The Color Purple, by Alice Walker
6. Ulysses, by James Joyce
7. Beloved, by Toni Morrison
8. The Lord of the Flies, by William Golding
9. 1984, by George Orwell
11. Lolita, by Vladmir Nabokov
12. Of Mice and Men, by John Steinbeck
15. Catch-22, by Joseph Heller
16. Brave New World, by Aldous Huxley
17. Animal Farm, by George Orwell
18. The Sun Also Rises, by Ernest Hemingway
19. As I Lay Dying, by William Faulkner
20. A Farewell to Arms, by Ernest Hemingway
23. Their Eyes Were Watching God, by Zora Neale Hurston
24. Invisible Man, by Ralph Ellison
25. Song of Solomon, by Toni Morrison
26. Gone with the Wind, by Margaret Mitchell
27. Native Son, by Richard Wright
28. One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, by Ken Kesey
29. Slaughterhouse-Five, by Kurt Vonnegut
30. For Whom the Bell Tolls, by Ernest Hemingway
33. The Call of the Wild, by Jack London
36. Go Tell it on the Mountain, by James Baldwin
38. All the King's Men, by Robert Penn Warren
40. The Lord of the Rings, by J.R.R. Tolkien
45. The Jungle, by Upton Sinclair
48. Lady Chatterley's Lover, by D.H. Lawrence
49. A Clockwork Orange, by Anthony Burgess
50. The Awakening, by Kate Chopin
53. In Cold Blood, by Truman Capote
55. The Satanic Verses, by Salman Rushdie
57. Sophie's Choice, by William Styron
64. Sons and Lovers, by D.H. Lawrence
66. Cat's Cradle, by Kurt Vonnegut
67. A Separate Peace, by John Knowles
73. Naked Lunch, by William S. Burroughs
74. Brideshead Revisited, by Evelyn Waugh
75. Women in Love, by D.H. Lawrence
80. The Naked and the Dead, by Norman Mailer
84. Tropic of Cancer, by Henry Miller
88. An American Tragedy, by Theodore Dreiser
97. Rabbit, Run, by John Updike (I don't know why they skipped numbers)
http://www.ala.org/bbooks/frequentlyc...


message 2: by Rachel (new)

Rachel (hopeless-wanderer) LORD OF THE RINGS!!!!!!!! <3


message 3: by Rachel (new)

Rachel 100 Most Frequently Challenged Books: 1990-1999
1.Scary Stories (series), by Alvin Schwartz
2.Daddy’s Roommate, by Michael Willhoite
3.I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings, by Maya Angelou
4.The Chocolate War, by Robert Cormier
5.The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn, by Mark Twain
6.Of Mice and Men, by John Steinbeck
7.Forever, by Judy Blume
8.Bridge to Terabithia, by Katherine Paterson
9.Heather Has Two Mommies, by Leslea Newman
10.The Catcher in the Rye, by J.D. Salinger
11.The Giver, by Lois Lowry
12.My Brother Sam is Dead, by James Lincoln Collier and Christopher Collier
13.It’s Perfectly Normal, by Robie Harris
14.Alice (series), by Phyllis Reynolds Naylor
15.Goosebumps (series), by R.L. Stine
16.A Day No Pigs Would Die, by Robert Newton Peck
17.The Color Purple, by Alice Walker
18.Sex, by Madonna
19.Earth’s Children (series), by Jean M. Auel
20.The Great Gilly Hopkins, by Katherine Paterson
21.In the Night Kitchen, by Maurice Sendak
22.The Witches, by Roald Dahl
23.A Wrinkle in Time, by Madeleine L’Engle
24.The New Joy of Gay Sex, by Charles Silverstein
25.Go Ask Alice, by Anonymous
26.The Goats, by Brock Cole
27.The Stupids (series), by Harry Allard
28.Anastasia Krupnik (series), by Lois Lowry
29.Final Exit, by Derek Humphry
30.Blubber, by Judy Blume
31.Halloween ABC, by Eve Merriam
32.Julie of the Wolves, by Jean Craighead George
33.Kaffir Boy, by Mark Mathabane
34.The Bluest Eye, by Toni Morrison
35.What’s Happening to my Body? Book for Girls: A Growing-Up Guide for Parents & Daughters, by Lynda Madaras
36.Fallen Angels, by Walter Dean Myers
37.The Handmaid’s Tale, by Margaret Atwood
38.The Outsiders, by S.E. Hinton
39.The Pigman, by Paul Zindel
40.To Kill a Mockingbird, by Harper Lee
41.We All Fall Down, by Robert Cormier
42.Deenie, by Judy Blume
43.Flowers for Algernon, by Daniel Keyes
44.Annie on My Mind, by Nancy Garden
45.Beloved, by Toni Morrison
46.The Boy Who Lost His Face, by Louis Sachar
47.Cross Your Fingers, Spit in Your Hat, by Alvin Schwartz
48.Harry Potter (series), by J.K. Rowling
49.Cujo, by Stephen King
50.James and the Giant Peach, by Roald Dahl
51.A Light in the Attic, by Shel Silverstein
52.Ordinary People, by Judith Guest
53.American Psycho, by Bret Easton Ellis
54.Brave New World, by Aldous Huxley
55.Sleeping Beauty Trilogy, by A.N. Roquelaure (Anne Rice)
56.Bumps in the Night, by Harry Allard
57.Asking About Sex and Growing Up, by Joanna Cole
58.What’s Happening to my Body? Book for Boys: A Growing-Up Guide for Parents & Sons, by Lynda Madaras
59.The Anarchist Cookbook, by William Powell
60.Are You There, God? It’s Me, Margaret, by Judy Blume
61.Boys and Sex, by Wardell Pomeroy
62.Crazy Lady, by Jane Conly
63.Athletic Shorts, by Chris Crutcher
64.Killing Mr. Griffin, by Lois Duncan
65.Fade, by Robert Cormier
66.Guess What?, by Mem Fox
67.Slaughterhouse-Five, by Kurt Vonnegut
68.Lord of the Flies, by William Golding
69.Native Son, by Richard Wright
70.Women on Top: How Real Life Has Changed Women’s Fantasies, by Nancy Friday
71.Curses, Hexes and Spells, by Daniel Cohen
72.On My Honor, by Marion Dane Bauer
73.The House of Spirits, by Isabel Allende
74.Jack, by A.M. Homes
75.Arizona Kid, by Ron Koertge
76.Family Secrets, by Norma Klein
77.Mommy Laid an Egg, by Babette Cole
78.Bless Me, Ultima, by Rudolfo A. Anaya
79.Where Did I Come From?, by Peter Mayle
80.The Face on the Milk Carton, by Caroline Cooney
81.Carrie, by Stephen King
82.The Dead Zone, by Stephen King
83.The Adventures of Tom Sawyer, by Mark Twain
84.Song of Solomon, by Toni Morrison
85.Always Running, by Luis Rodriguez
86.Private Parts, by Howard Stern
87.Where’s Waldo?, by Martin Hanford
88.Summer of My German Soldier, by Bette Greene
89.Tiger Eyes, by Judy Blume
90.Little Black Sambo, by Helen Bannerman
91.Pillars of the Earth, by Ken Follett
92.Running Loose, by Chris Crutcher
93.Sex Education, by Jenny Davis
94.Jumper, by Steven Gould
95.Christine, by Stephen King
96.The Drowning of Stephen Jones, by Bette Greene
97.That Was Then, This is Now, by S.E. Hinton
98.Girls and Sex, by Wardell Pomeroy
99.The Wish Giver, by Bill Brittain
100.Jump Ship to Freedom, by James Lincoln Collier and Christopher Collier
http://www.ala.org/bbooks/100-most-fr...


message 4: by Rachel (new)

Rachel 100 Most Frequently Challenged Books: 2000-2009
1. Harry Potter (series), by J.K. Rowling
2. Alice series, by Phyllis Reynolds Naylor
3. The Chocolate War, by Robert Cormier
4. And Tango Makes Three, by Justin Richardson/Peter Parnell
5. Of Mice and Men, by John Steinbeck
6. I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings, by Maya Angelou
7. Scary Stories (series), by Alvin Schwartz
8. His Dark Materials (series), by Philip Pullman
9. ttyl; ttfn; l8r g8r (series), by Lauren Myracle
10. The Perks of Being a Wallflower, by Stephen Chbosky
11. Fallen Angels, by Walter Dean Myers
12. It’s Perfectly Normal, by Robie Harris
13. Captain Underpants (series), by Dav Pilkey
14. The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn, by Mark Twain
15. The Bluest Eye, by Toni Morrison
16. Forever, by Judy Blume
17. The Color Purple, by Alice Walker
18. Go Ask Alice, by Anonymous
19. Catcher in the Rye, by J.D. Salinger
20. King and King, by Linda de Haan
21. To Kill A Mockingbird, by Harper Lee
22. Gossip Girl (series), by Cecily von Ziegesar
23. The Giver, by Lois Lowry
24. In the Night Kitchen, by Maurice Sendak
25. Killing Mr. Griffen, by Lois Duncan
26. Beloved, by Toni Morrison
27. My Brother Sam Is Dead, by James Lincoln Collier
28. Bridge To Terabithia, by Katherine Paterson
29. The Face on the Milk Carton, by Caroline B. Cooney
30. We All Fall Down, by Robert Cormier
31. What My Mother Doesn’t Know, by Sonya Sones
32. Bless Me, Ultima, by Rudolfo Anaya
33. Snow Falling on Cedars, by David Guterson
34. The Earth, My Butt, and Other Big, Round Things, by Carolyn Mackler
35. Angus, Thongs, and Full Frontal Snogging, by Louise Rennison
36. Brave New World, by Aldous Huxley
37. It’s So Amazing, by Robie Harris
38. Arming America, by Michael Bellasiles
39. Kaffir Boy, by Mark Mathabane
40. Life is Funny, by E.R. Frank
41. Whale Talk, by Chris Crutcher
42. The Fighting Ground, by Avi
43. Blubber, by Judy Blume
44. Athletic Shorts, by Chris Crutcher
45. Crazy Lady, by Jane Leslie Conly
46. Slaughterhouse-Five, by Kurt Vonnegut
47. The Adventures of Super Diaper Baby: The First Graphic Novel by George Beard and Harold Hutchins, the creators of Captain Underpants, by Dav Pilkey
48. Rainbow Boys, by Alex Sanchez
49. One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest, by Ken Kesey
50. The Kite Runner, by Khaled Hosseini
51. Daughters of Eve, by Lois Duncan
52. The Great Gilly Hopkins, by Katherine Paterson
53. You Hear Me?, by Betsy Franco
54. The Facts Speak for Themselves, by Brock Cole
55. Summer of My German Soldier, by Bette Green
56. When Dad Killed Mom, by Julius Lester
57. Blood and Chocolate, by Annette Curtis Klause
58. Fat Kid Rules the World, by K.L. Going
59. Olive’s Ocean, by Kevin Henkes
60. Speak, by Laurie Halse Anderson
61. Draw Me A Star, by Eric Carle
62. The Stupids (series), by Harry Allard
63. The Terrorist, by Caroline B. Cooney
64. Mick Harte Was Here, by Barbara Park
65. The Things They Carried, by Tim O’Brien
66. Roll of Thunder, Hear My Cry, by Mildred Taylor
67. A Time to Kill, by John Grisham
68. Always Running, by Luis Rodriguez
69. Fahrenheit 451, by Ray Bradbury
70. Harris and Me, by Gary Paulsen
71. Junie B. Jones (series), by Barbara Park
72. Song of Solomon, by Toni Morrison
73. What’s Happening to My Body Book, by Lynda Madaras
74. The Lovely Bones, by Alice Sebold
75. Anastasia (series), by Lois Lowry
76. A Prayer for Owen Meany, by John Irving
77. Crazy: A Novel, by Benjamin Lebert
78. The Joy of Gay Sex, by Dr. Charles Silverstein
79. The Upstairs Room, by Johanna Reiss
80. A Day No Pigs Would Die, by Robert Newton Peck
81. Black Boy, by Richard Wright
82. Deal With It!, by Esther Drill
83. Detour for Emmy, by Marilyn Reynolds
84. So Far From the Bamboo Grove, by Yoko Watkins
85. Staying Fat for Sarah Byrnes, by Chris Crutcher
86. Cut, by Patricia McCormick
87. Tiger Eyes, by Judy Blume
88. The Handmaid’s Tale, by Margaret Atwood
89. Friday Night Lights, by H.G. Bissenger
90. A Wrinkle in Time, by Madeline L’Engle
91. Julie of the Wolves, by Jean Craighead George
92. The Boy Who Lost His Face, by Louis Sachar
93. Bumps in the Night, by Harry Allard
94. Goosebumps (series), by R.L. Stine
95. Shade’s Children, by Garth Nix
96. Grendel, by John Gardner
97. The House of the Spirits, by Isabel Allende
98. I Saw Esau, by Iona Opte
99. Are You There, God? It’s Me, Margaret, by Judy Blume
100. America: A Novel, by E.R. Frank
http://www.ala.org/bbooks/top-100-ban...


message 5: by Rachel (new)

Rachel mountainmist wrote: "LORD OF THE RINGS!!!!!!!! <3"

Somehow, I didn't even notice that was one of them until you said this. I love the Lord of the Rings as well. Why do you suppose it is challenged/banned?


message 6: by Rachel (new)

Rachel (hopeless-wanderer) I have no idea! The only reason I have ever been given (other than not liking fantasy) was because it's old, but certainly that is no excuse!


message 7: by Rachel (new)

Rachel Well, my parents told me that there was actually a cult surrounding it in I want to say the 1970s. Perhaps that might be why. However, that fact didn't prevent them from encouraging me to watch and read them once I was old enough to distinguish well between truth and fantasy.


message 8: by Rachel (new)

Rachel (hopeless-wanderer) I suppose that may be why.


message 10: by [deleted user] (last edited Sep 17, 2013 05:56PM) (new)

To Kill a Mockingbird - I LOVED. I can see why it would be challenged... but really... I read it at school in grade 10. I couldn't put it down. Yes, there's racism, but doesn't that run kind of rampant in our society, even now? Some people can learn a lot from this book. Little children probably shouldn't read it, but younger teens and up is perfectly okay.

"...the primary themes of To Kill a Mockingbird involve racial injustice and the destruction of innocence. Scholars have noted that Lee also addresses issues of class, courage, compassion, and gender roles in the American Deep South. The book is widely taught in schools in English-speaking countries with lessons that emphasize tolerance and decry prejudice."


message 11: by Sam (new)

Sam (Readlovelaughlive) | 4404 comments I loved Animal Farm by Orwell. LOL - so insightful...


message 12: by [deleted user] (new)

Sam wrote: "I loved Animal Farm by Orwell. LOL - so insightful..."

I have yet to read that one. 1984 is on my to-read list, though...


message 13: by [deleted user] (new)

The Great Gatsby I didn't like. Not for any moral reasons or anything. I just hated the plot. People call it genius; I must have missed something...


message 14: by [deleted user] (new)

Bridge to Terabithia, The Giver... come on! These are books I tell my little sis she BETTER read. lol.

And Junie B. Jones - what's wrong with Junie B. Jones???


message 15: by Sam (new)

Sam (Readlovelaughlive) | 4404 comments Junie B. Jones? LOL


message 16: by Sam (new)

Sam (Readlovelaughlive) | 4404 comments What did Junie do wrong this time?


message 17: by Sam (new)

Sam (Readlovelaughlive) | 4404 comments Lolita by Nabokov I understand, but my old lit teacher swears by it lol. Says it's her fave book of all time and that she'd give up teaching if that book decided not to exist anymore.


message 18: by Rachel (new)

Rachel Cari wrote: "To Kill a Mockingbird - I LOVED. I can see why it would be challenged... but really... I read it at school in grade 10. I couldn't put it down. Yes, there's racism, but doesn't that run kind of ram..."

Yes, I loved To Kill a Mockingbird as well. And, yes, some of the other books are challenged because of racial slurs as well, but people used those words back then. It may not have been right, but it was socially acceptable at the time. The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn has important things to think about as does To Kill a Mockingbird as does Roll of Thunder, Hear my cry. What are we trying to do exactly by discouraging reading books with difficult themes and historical problems? Critical thinking...no. Understanding of the past...no. I don't think hiding truth from people is going to help because "those who don't learn from the past are doomed to repeat it." Some of the titles I've never heard of and know nothing bout, and I probably will avoid certain titles completely. However, so many of these books are very good and very thought provoking.


message 19: by [deleted user] (new)

yeah, they sure give you a lit to think about abd reflect on.


message 20: by Rose (new)

Rose (seekeroftruth) | 2966 comments No books should ever be banned in my opinion.


message 21: by Carolyn, The God of Angel Armies (new)

Carolyn (caroheartsbooks) | 9968 comments Mod
Rachel wrote: "Well, my parents told me that there was actually a cult surrounding it in I want to say the 1970s. Perhaps that might be why. However, that fact didn't prevent them from encouraging me to watch and..."

that's weird!!! I love lord of the rings! Tolkien was catholic too and based it off of catholic doctrine weird


message 22: by Carolyn, The God of Angel Armies (new)

Carolyn (caroheartsbooks) | 9968 comments Mod
we just read of mice and men in school

it was awful


message 23: by Carolyn, The God of Angel Armies (new)

Carolyn (caroheartsbooks) | 9968 comments Mod
Sam wrote: "Junie B. Jones? LOL"

LOL!!


message 24: by Rachel (last edited Sep 24, 2013 08:52AM) (new)

Rachel So, from the banned and challenged classics list, I've read these:
1. The Great Gatsby, by F. Scott Fitzgerald
3. The Grapes of Wrath, by John Steinbeck
4. To Kill a Mockingbird, by Harper Lee
5. The Color Purple, by Alice Walker (I read half of it and quit a bit after the lesbian activities)
7. Beloved, by Toni Morrison
8. The Lord of the Flies, by William Golding
9. 1984, by George Orwell
15. Catch-22, by Joseph Heller (I started this one..I mean to to actually read it sometime)
17. Animal Farm, by George Orwell
26. Gone with the Wind, by Margaret Mitchell
27. Native Son, by Richard Wright
28. One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, by Ken Kesey
33. The Call of the Wild, by Jack London
36. Go Tell it on the Mountain, by James Baldwin
40. The Lord of the Rings, by J.R.R. Tolkien
48. Lady Chatterley's Lover, by D.H. Lawrence
50. The Awakening, by Kate Chopin

Not all of them were favorites of mine, but most of them didn't have anything particularly objectionable in them from what I remember.


message 25: by Rachel (new)

Rachel Of this list, I've read:

100 Most Frequently Challenged Books: 1990-1999
3.I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings, by Maya Angelou
5.The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn, by Mark Twain
6.Of Mice and Men, by John Steinbeck
11.The Giver, by Lois Lowry (come on...it's brilliant)
17.The Color Purple, by Alice Walker
32.Julie of the Wolves, by Jean Craighead George (really? this was one of my favorites growing up...the rest of the series is good too)
37.The Handmaid’s Tale, by Margaret Atwood (okay, this is a dystopian novel, adult style..I liked it)
39.The Pigman, by Paul Zindel (a bit weird..but an okay middle childhood book)
40.To Kill a Mockingbird, by Harper Lee
43.Flowers for Algernon, by Daniel Keyes
45.Beloved, by Toni Morrison
48.Harry Potter (series), by J.K. Rowling
60.Are You There, God? It’s Me, Margaret, by Judy Blume
68.Lord of the Flies, by William Golding (really, really strange...I did find out more about its symbolism a while back...I'll try and find it sometime)
69.Native Son, by Richard Wright
78.Bless Me, Ultima, by Rudolfo A. Anaya
83.The Adventures of Tom Sawyer, by Mark Twain
87.Where’s Waldo?, by Martin Hanford (they banned this one because one page has a topless woman...I used to have that particular edition...you had to really hunt to find that woman...it's not like it was glaring or anything; they don't print that edition anymore)
91.Pillars of the Earth, by Ken Follett


message 26: by Rachel (new)

Rachel A lot of these books repeat themselves on several lists, sorry about that. From this list, I've read:

100 Most Frequently Challenged Books: 2000-2009
1. Harry Potter (series), by J.K. Rowling
6. I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings, by Maya Angelou
14. The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn, by Mark Twain
17. The Color Purple, by Alice Walker
21. To Kill A Mockingbird, by Harper Lee
23. The Giver, by Lois Lowry
26. Beloved, by Toni Morrison
32. Bless Me, Ultima, by Rudolfo Anaya
33. Snow Falling on Cedars, by David Guterson
49. One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest, by Ken Kesey
66. Roll of Thunder, Hear My Cry, by Mildred Taylor
76. A Prayer for Owen Meany, by John Irving
88. The Handmaid’s Tale, by Margaret Atwood
91. Julie of the Wolves, by Jean Craighead George
99. Are You There, God? It’s Me, Margaret, by Judy Blume


message 27: by Sam (new)

Sam (Readlovelaughlive) | 4404 comments I loved Julie of the Wolves too! I thought it was written so strikingly... I couldn't forget it.


message 28: by [deleted user] (new)

I have read

The Adventures of Tom Sawyer
To Kill a Mockingbird
The Giver
Lord of the Flies
Alice (series)
Junie B. Jones (series) (lol)
Bridge to Terabithia
The Great Gatsby
Gone With the Wind
The Outsiders
Julie of the Wolves

I'm sure I missed a couple from the lists. I also have quite a bit on my to-read list.


message 29: by [deleted user] (new)

Gone With the Wind is my favourite... Def. going to read it again sometime.


message 30: by Carolyn, The God of Angel Armies (new)

Carolyn (caroheartsbooks) | 9968 comments Mod
I'm saving that classic


message 31: by Rachel (new)

Rachel Here's some reasons for a few banned books... people are weird...
http://theweek.com/article/index/2499...


message 32: by Annie (new)

Annie (anniesmusings) I've read:
The Great Gatsby
To Kill a Mockingbird
Lord of the Flies
Of Mice and Men
Gone With The Wind
A Separate Peace
I Know Why The Caged Bird Sings
The Giver
Harry Potter
Huckleberry Finn
Bridge to Terabithia
A Light In The Attic
Are you there God? It's me, Margaret
Ttyl, ttfn, l8r g8r
Perks of Being a Wallflower
Angus, Thongs, and Full Frontal Snogging

Honestly I don't like the idea of banning books. Books shouldn't be banned unless they can be used to harm people somehow.


message 33: by [deleted user] (new)

Rachel wrote: "Here's some reasons for a few banned books... people are weird...
http://theweek.com/article/index/2499..."


Interesting.

I want to read Invisible Man now.


message 34: by brooke1994 (new)

brooke1994  (formerlynarnian525) The Bible has been banned for years. Some people think the rules are overrated.


message 35: by [deleted user] (last edited Dec 23, 2013 07:39PM) (new)

A lot of people are against religious books in general. 'Cause "religion is the cause of all wars" and their books are just "dangerous pieces of trash that can warp your mind".


message 36: by brooke1994 (new)

brooke1994  (formerlynarnian525) Cari wrote: "A lot of people are against religious books in general. 'Cause "religion is the cause of all wars" and their books are just "dangerous pieces of trash that can warp your mind"."

Or, they don't want "A God in the sky controlling their life"


message 37: by [deleted user] (new)

Narnian525♥♪ wrote: "Cari wrote: "A lot of people are against religious books in general. 'Cause "religion is the cause of all wars" and their books are just "dangerous pieces of trash that can warp your mind"."

Or, t..."


It bothers me so much that nowadays atheists can say whatever they want about Christians and ridicule us, but if we talk about what we believe we get sued or marked for bigotry.

You know what bigotry is? "Intolerance toward those who hold different opinions from oneself". I don't have intolerance against anybody. It's people who speak badly of Christians that are more bigoted, it appears to me.


message 38: by brooke1994 (last edited Dec 24, 2013 11:02AM) (new)

brooke1994  (formerlynarnian525) Cari wrote: "Narnian525♥♪ wrote: "Cari wrote: "A lot of people are against religious books in general. 'Cause "religion is the cause of all wars" and their books are just "dangerous pieces of trash that can war..."

Exactly. Like the Colorado baker who's being ordered by a judge because he didn't bake a wedding cake for a lesbian couple. It's HIS business, so he has the right to refuse service to anyone he wants. They could have just gone to another bakery, and not turn him in. But they did, and that shows me that gay supporters say that they love, but If you disagree with them, watch out. It's twisted and ridiculous.


message 39: by Carolyn, The God of Angel Armies (new)

Carolyn (caroheartsbooks) | 9968 comments Mod
Cari wrote: "A lot of people are against religious books in general. 'Cause "religion is the cause of all wars" and their books are just "dangerous pieces of trash that can warp your mind"."

that sounds like something out of Fahrenheit 451!!


message 40: by Carolyn, The God of Angel Armies (new)

Carolyn (caroheartsbooks) | 9968 comments Mod
Cari wrote: "Narnian525♥♪ wrote: "Cari wrote: "A lot of people are against religious books in general. 'Cause "religion is the cause of all wars" and their books are just "dangerous pieces of trash that can war..."

:( how sin affects ppl


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