Debate discussion

So far Mousavi is ahead, or so the polls say but who knows. Lets hope that crazy man gets kick out of office but the people of Iran elected him in the first place so who knows...

What do you all think?

Elections? See, I don't pay attention to that sort of thing.

Sounds cool.

the elections are starting to get ugly...

I don't know what to think.

I try not to be stereotypical or baised. But frustration seems to be able to overtake me all the time, when I watch muliple media broadcasts, from different news channels and they say different things...So I really don't know which one to believe. It seems as though every news channel has there little piece of baised that they unwillingly(or maybe willingly) introduce.
I also have the benefit of being able to speak more than one language...so I get to hear the same news from two different viewpoints. And you would be suprised at how differently each is presented.

Like for example...no offense Koe but you said "So far Mousavi is ahead, or so the polls say but who knows. Lets hope that crazy man gets kick out of office but the people of Iran elected him in the first place so who knows... "

So clearly you are for Mousavi instead of Ahmedinajad (phonetic spelling srry)...but why? Because America- or the West wants Ahmedinajad...but why? How do you or anyone else know that his people don't like him? How do you know that he hasn't done good things for the Iranian people.

We really don't know so how could we be so judgemental.
Or is it all just about the foreign policy? Or our understanding of it? I don't know...do you?

You really think Mahmoud is a good leader? Mousavi isn't exactly a savior, but he is definitely the lesser of the two evils.

I don't know what to think.
How do you know Mousavi is the lesser of the two evils? Just because we haven't yet seen his evils?

I'm questioning the validity of our sources and asking: Is there any possible way to get UNBAISED information?

Yes, READ instead of listening to radio or watching TV. See the evidence of those who know Mousavi and the Iranian situation.

Really bad.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/28/wee...

I dont think I wanna read it.....

sad

Davis wrote: "Yes, READ instead of listening to radio or watching TV. See the evidence of those who know Mousavi and the Iranian situation. "


How is just READING going to help me - if I'm reading biased info???
I mean what I usually do is read this and that, get the two extremes...then find a mediocre stance on the issue and pay close attention to difference and consistencies of the three ( which end up being four and five sources at times)

But you realize how much trouble I have to go through...so what I end up doing is READING the news, going about my normal life and listening for any different point of views.

fine. then don't and be an ignorant person. what do you want us to tell you?

Liz wrote: "fine. then don't and be an ignorant person. what do you want us to tell you?"


Wow...that's not what I meant. What I mean is that it seems hopeless to debate things like you know you have a definite view when you really don't know the truth.
That's not to say that any specific person knows the truth but that it is really hard to find out what's propoganda and what's not in this fast paced 21st century of media.

I never mean to insult anyone or portray myself as ignorant or stereotypical.
That was just an outburst of frustration Liz- I really didn't mean it like that.

I quess I expected someone to advise me...like "hey frustrated, look at this or that news channel etc."

i didn't mean it like it sounded. it was more sarcastic like.

Liz wrote: "fine. then don't and be an ignorant person. what do you want us to tell you?"

I was also a little frustrated that Davis emphasized READING like I really wasn't...and I don't understand the difference between READING and listening to the news except that:
- the news channels...make small talk that sometimes influences the presentation/tone of a specific story...but in writing the author's stance on the issue also seeps through
- news channels and radio is fast paced, given in short mouthfulls

But other than that...

lol yep i get it

lol k...
thnxs

yeppers

If these election were meant to be democratic at all, they really failed at doing so.

Lena wrote: "If these election were meant to be democratic at all, they really failed at doing so."

Yes, Ahmendimanjad stole the election.

Yeah

the middle east is a crazy place

Yeah. All the power that they have is driving them nuts. Yet theyre still so impoverished somehow.

it is sad