The Christian Apologetics Helpline discussion

The first rule of apologetics is to always go back to the Bible. The Word of God is infallible, literal, and perfectly true. Don't try to use science or history or anything else to prove the Bible; rather, build your world from it as your cornerstone. Prove science and history and everything else from the truth of the Word. Analyze the world around you, and the people you interact with, and the conversations you have through the absolute, literal truth that is in the Word of God.

you have a very good point SBG, but we also have to just count on God to soften the persons heart if they are meant to understand. :)

This sounds like presuppositionalism to the extreme. It seems that your underlying presupposition is that we should gain truth solely from the Bible. But where in the Bible is this taught? If the Bible doesn't teach the truth that all truth comes from the Bible, then the claim that only truth comes from the Bible is self-refuting.

Check out reasonablefaith.org, look at Francis Collins book the Language of God and Lee Strobels book the Case for a Creator. Check out J.P. Moreland, Keith Ward and Alvin Plantinga. Look at Gary Habermas and Mike licona. All of these people are Christian Scholars who defend the classical doctrines of Christianity through philosophy, science and history. This isn't unbiblical, we see Paul using an argument from intuition in Romans 1 or an argument from design depending on your interpretation.

God has given us reason, let us use it to glorify Him.