Finnegans Wake Grappa discussion

Wilkomme on in!! Wake readers need some grappa therapy just as much as anyone. Readers (and The Curious), welcome. I don't know if this Thing will work or no. But at least we can all see each ottter now.

so but anyways if you are the type of person who will be spending every=spare minute reading The Wake until at least December the nth, 2014 or maybe 15 and would like a COO=moder8or=ship, please subscribe. Applications will be processed without comment.

In other words, I'd like to keep this Grappa ship=shape but it's more like Gripes Therapy than a rigorous reading ; reading has never been as social as Finnegans and in the final analysis aren't we all Flimmflammfinnegans? Cool.

Let me nose of your needs ; make this grope work somehow. Longtemps I've been tempted to make a gripe like this for our Finnegans but knew not how or why. Yule have to help.

Nathan "N.R." wrote: "Let me nose of your needs ; make this grope work somehow. Longtemps I've been tempted to make a gripe like this for our Finnegans but knew not how or why. Yule have to help."

Wonderful idea Sir. I swooned as thou antisipateEd.

Timing is All. 2014 ahall be Wake-Full.

Jonathan wrote: "Nathan "N.R." wrote: "Let me nose of your needs ; make this grope work somehow. Longtemps I've been tempted to make a gripe like this for our Finnegans but knew not how or why. Yule have to help...."

oh and am happy to assist with moderating...I think having the group fluid and responsive to our needs is the best...just having a place to share thoughts is wonderful

'Bout time! This is going to be fun...

Yay!!! This will motivate me to finish it. Thanks, Nathan!

I proust to thees, thou grappa fiendz, amaseganalou

Amaseganalou! Cám ơn....Joyce to the world and all the FW novicer.

Furzlets doffcaps n thank John Stanislaus && Mary Jane Murray fur gettin upindare inda furz-place.

Well come all! As Scribbingscrubbing has pointed out -- unterstand, gut luck mit dat!!! But sorrysly, rotting like a james is just jim-dandy.

I should credit were credit due ; which is like this ;; there's a young=parson down there in the members musey=picture=room name of Jane who was sent meward by Friend William (bless his nome) because ima wake ex=spark ;; of course thinking meself no expart of anytink I thought Jane should meet you all one hondrard and one of yous -- Jane (she's All About Joyce!, tht's aaj), meet the gang and Wake on!!!

(Jo)Nathan, new to 'em Finnegans ; Geoff keep on waking in the glueworld ; Aloha larnin' finnisch like's out of style alredy ; Scribble tilin' and toilin' a scrabblebørd finnegan-style, break! geKäfer't by Kafka.

Thank you for the charming welcome. I am pleased to meet you Joyceans one and all and look forward to our shared inspiration and perplexity!

Nathan, Jane or whoever creatinspire this group...I am injoyce de vivre, in joyceundity...It's been a joyoust couple of years!

I'll be Reorganizing our Grappa from "Private" to "Public" (IPO!) some time tomorrow. Things are looking well-leg'd around here.

Any specific requests?

Jonathan, you have a few more ideas you'll be implementing straight-away?

I say hire an unscrupulous spambot from a Russian darksite to issue an invite to every single person on GoodReads.

Nathan "N.R." wrote: "I'll be Reorganizing our Grappa from "Private" to "Public" (IPO!) some time tomorrow. Things are looking well-leg'd around here.

Any specific requests?

Jonathan, you have a few more ideas yo..."

Just added a drinking topic - which will be for Wake inspired liquor investigations and references - I plan to put something up about Guinness, of course, but also am interested in discovering the most Wakean Whiskey ;-)

In Ireland as, I'm sure, elsewhere, there are pubs all Wakey-named. I'd be curious to read any blogs where actual patrons got all Joycean up in there.

Adaline Glasheen has put together a census of the characters in FW:
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1...

Should we do something similar here, as in, have threads or topics devoted to explication, explanation, iteration, characterization, appearance, (re)emergence, and suchlike things of our dearests HCE, ALP, Shem Shaun & Issy? Theories on them, descriptions of them, the various roles they play, our favorite moments of them in the book, etc.? Just an idea, don't know how that would work out in the group.

Geoff wrote: "Adaline Glasheen has put together a census of the characters in FW:"

Done.

Nathan "N.R." wrote: "Geoff wrote: "Adaline Glasheen has put together a census of the characters in FW:"

Done."

Nice!

Nathan "N.R." wrote: "Geoff wrote: "Adaline Glasheen has put together a census of the characters in FW:"

Done."

I'll have some character insights to add when I get home from work and have access to my jottings on these things. Burgess does a great job of talking about the emergence and representation of the main characters and some of the subcharacters. I have notes!

Thankkee for the invite. I am new to all things Joyce. Be genteel wit me.

Brian wrote: "Thankkee for the invite. I am new to all things Joyce. Be genteel wit me."

Wheeeeecomin Brian Boru!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9h2Qmx...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Boru

I'll probably have a few spare hours this weekend to update the census- I have a dark history of joining groups here on Goodreads and then never participating in them- but I want this Work in Progress to progress and work- so- yes- I'll add some character threads soon... swear...

So I don't know how many of us Finnegans are sticking it out but I've gotta put .2. cents in here:

After I got the OUP I Finn'd again from the bygning, with Campbell and McHugh all lined up (because reading the Restored certainly complicates using the annotations)- so with my OUP and my annotations I'm rolling and I've got to tell you, this time around this thing is reading like a tried-and-true traditional NOVEL! (Of course it isn't, but it kind of is!) Anyway, I'm here to tell you that this thing is rererereadable and not to give in. My third or so time through the opening ALP chapter, and sense and sensibility are EVERYWHERE, I'm unearthing mounds and mounds now just like a henpecked hen digging at a missive in the mounds. So here's words of encouragement to the group. Keep on keepin' on.

Geoff wrote: "So here's words of encouragement to the group. Keep on keepin' on. "

And it gets even better ;; in my current (Don) Jaun chapter it's reading straight my virgin passage through. Well, it reads so after my Campbell quick-over=view/orientation. Lovely.

I'm anticipating that 'at about the half-way mark it really picks up steam' ;; but in fact since somewhere towards the end of the Tavern scene I've been able to pick up a reall-quick pace, much white-space on the McHugh page. This=all is corroborated by Campbell who does describe the early parts of The Wake as dense ; see his p255-256 for a short=sharp outline of the entirety of The Wake.

I'd recommend McLuhan's Thunder book. That is helping me pull Finnegans together. McHugh is not gelling for me right now. I'll get to that after I go through other more readable explanations. I'm also reading other Joyce work which ties it all together for me.

So I finally got rid of that ugly yellow Rulez box that pops up every damn time you try to make a comment.

Just remember please for the purposes of propagandizing and evangelizing the good word of The Good Book of The Wake to always when citing a word/phrase/sentence/ETC to provide page number of the standard edition and if possible the Restored as well for our convenience. And Geoff :: the OUP is the standard pagination. So long as we know that the number is a page number (ie, "page 222") we're good to go ;; add an "R" to designate The Restored, please, (ie, "222R").

It's a damn big book and we should easify the finding of our way throughout it with Page Numbers !!!!(!)

Thank you. (tip(!))

Nathan "N.R." wrote: "And Geoff :: "

Gawdamm, have to call a brother out??? (Jus kiddin'. I'm on it...)

Geoff wrote: "Nathan "N.R." wrote: "And Geoff :: "
Gawdamm, have to call a brother out??? (Jus kiddin'. I'm on it...)"

Gawdamm yep! I'll be doing just like you soon as my own personalized copy of the OUP arrives in the mailslotbox. Please.

Nathan "N.R." wrote: "I'll be doing just like you"

A clarification for such purposes. The Restored is the loveliest of editions. A pleasure to hold, a sight to behold, a wonder of beholding pleasures and sightings. BUT it is not so convenient for working with our leading lanterns McHugh and Campbell. I find the OUP to be the ideal workingman's edition, one that can be lugged easily from place to place, and also quickly annotated, skeleton-keyed. The reading goes much faster. The Restored will be my go-to edition after my first complete reading-through is done.

Nathan "N.R." wrote: "It's a damn big book and we should easify the finding of our way throughout it with Page Numbers !!!!(!)"

What's a damn big book? I have the OUP paperback and the Restored. They're both tiny to me. Maybe I'm used to lugging huge art books, but...

Aloha wrote: "Nathan "N.R." wrote: "It's a damn big book and we should easify the finding of our way throughout it with Page Numbers !!!!(!)"

What's a damn big book? I have the OUP paperback and the Restored. ..."

The OUP, she is certainly a conveniently sized morsel...

Aloha wrote: "What's a damn big book? I have the OUP paperback and the Restored. They're both tiny to me. Maybe I'm used to lugging huge art books, but..."

Well but it's bigger than RURD. Or at least near in size.

It's like the TARDIS.....

Nathan "N.R." wrote: "Well but it's bigger than RURD."

I have both before me, and your analysis is incorrect, goodsir. The Restored, she is taller, she is wider. The OUP, she is thicker.

Looks like my OUP is the miniature version. Would the page numbers be the same? Anybody have a link to the bigger version for purchase?

I'm a confused on account of only able to sporadically pop in it, but this is my OUP:

http://smile.amazon.com/Finnegans-Wak...

Nathan "N.R." wrote: "Well but it's bigger than RURD. Or at least near in size.

It's like the TARDIS..... "

So I didn't think I was being obscurantist on this little yoke. "It's" refers to the novel Finnegans Wake in any given edition. "Like the TARDIS..." is how Dr Who geeks say "It's bigger on the inside than on the outside." So, even though RURD happens to have more pages than.......

In the name of all that, the thing I'm requesting is that quotations of any portion of Our Holy Wake (even down unto the smallest word or iota subscript) be always accompanied with a page number (I'm not even asking for line number!) so that we might find ourselves around in the sense of finding our place and our orientation (and occidentation!) within Our Most Holly and Ivy Text.

Geoff wrote: "I have both before me, and your analysis is incorrect, goodsir. The Restored, she is taller, she is wider. The OUP, she is thicker. "

She is a fast ship. If you get my meaning....

I know very well the TARDIS. I have a mini-me who's a Whovian. She caught up on all the shows to before her time.

Howe Cometh my Envitation to The Wake?

Intro: Steve O'Rourke
Agenbit of Invite: A man named Edword strolling a Rosey Field.

Translation: Circa sixteen years of age, browsing book store shelf, hove into view The book of highs;: 250 ways to alter consciousness without drugs by Edward Rosenfeld. Part Three Devices and Machines (non-electric):#192 Finnegans Wake.
I'm pretty sure I was aware of Joyce before this, but reading section 192 hooked and landed me. I still have my 40 y.o. + copy of "Highs", dried glue and all. :)

Ham currantly Allah page dos (node onts). Hinny Engrish, 12. Thy Spock is peer Dell IT, galley more free or Popery of Shem antick inert ex-dualities. All so phish - a sin the Anna Livia rover running.

Just joining your group-in-progress. Have gotten over my Wake-fear enough to read the first chapter, so, you know, pretty much just reveling in the ignorance that implies impression that knots knowledge that finds the nameform that whets the wits [18] etc. over here.

It's love.

Thanks so much for pointing the way!

Rachel wrote: "Just joining your group-in-progress. Have gotten over my Wake-fear enough to read the first chapter, so, you know, pretty much just reveling in the ignorance that implies impression that knots knowledge that finds the nameform that whets the wits..."

Wishing you lotts of funnery at this finneganfest, Rachel!
Post plenty of updates...

Will come!

Thank you! Why, I'll come!

Tip! Mind your hat goan in!

Howdydowdy. Wondering why I never searched for an online FW group before.

Someone's not minding the door. Vestiges of even myself now entered.