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'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 20201 comments description

Members can discuss any aspect of the Great War in this thread and it can also be used for any Group and/or Buddy Reads on books covering WW1.


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Jerome Otte | 828 comments One of my my favorite topics to study. G.J. Meyer's book is probably the best general history of it that I've read:

A World Undone The Story of the Great War, 1914 to 1918 by G.J. Meyer by G.J. Meyer G.J. Meyer


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Frank | 27 comments Jerome wrote: "One of my my favorite topics to study. G.J. Meyer's book is probably the best general history of it that I've read:

Just completed this volume a month ago. Wonderful treatment of the war in one volume. I would be interested in Meyer writing a volume on WW2.



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Geevee | 3812 comments For people interested in a wide-ranging and detailed history of the war I also recommend 1914-1918 (Allen Lane History) by David Stevenson 1914-1918 by David Stevenson


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'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 20201 comments I am going to be involved in a WW1 buddy read with a non GR's friend. He is going to be reading; The War That Ended Peace. I am going to be reading along with him one of these books:

The War that Ended Peace How Europe abandoned Peace for the First World War by Professor Margaret MacMillan by Margaret MacMillan

The Sleepwalkers How Europe Went to War in 1914 by Christopher Munro Clark by Christopher Munro Clark

July 1914 Countdown to War by Sean McMeekin by Sean McMeekin

I'm just not sure which book I will be reading yet :)


message 6: by Jerome (new)

Jerome Otte | 828 comments All great books, good luck deciding :)


message 7: by Geevee, Assisting Moderator British & Commonwealth Forces (new)

Geevee | 3812 comments Looks good Rick whichever you choose.


message 8: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (last edited Jan 25, 2014 06:40PM) (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 20201 comments I'm keeping this one till August when you have your theme read Geevee:



1914 Fight the Good Fight Britain, the Army and the Coming of the First World War by Allan Mallinson by Allan Mallinson

I may also change my month for next month and go with this Australian author:

1914 The Year the World Ended by Paul Ham by Paul Ham


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Manray9 | 4827 comments 1914 A Novel by Jean Echenoz 1914 by Jean Echenoz.
Reviewed in the NY Times on Jan. 26th.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/26/boo...


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Lilo (liloh-p) | 586 comments I just bought this book, which tells about the 15 years that lead up to the Great War. It is said to be good.

The Vertigo Years Europe 1900-1914 by Philipp Blom The Vertigo Years: Europe 1900-1914


message 11: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 20201 comments Sounds interesting Lilo, thanks for posting the details.


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Frank | 27 comments 'Aussie Rick' wrote: "I am going to be involved in a WW1 buddy read with a non GR's friend. He is going to be reading; The War That Ended Peace. I am going to be reading along with him one of these books:

I am just completing MacMillan's 1919, and have picked up War That Ended The Peace as well and Sleepwalkers. With the anniversary looming there are so many good books being released I don't know where to start.



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Frank | 27 comments Lilo wrote: "I just bought this book, which tells about the 15 years that lead up to the Great War. It is said to be good.

The Vertigo Years Europe 1900-1914 by Philipp BlomThe Vertigo Years: Europe..."</i>

Looks like an interesting read. I have also just finished [bookcover:The Proud Tower: A Portrait of the World Before the War 1890-1914
a great treatment of the 25 years leading up to the war, and 1913 In Search of the World Before the Great War by Charles Emmerson, a great picture of the world on the doorstep of the clamity.



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Geevee | 3812 comments Frank wrote: "'Aussie Rick' wrote: "I am going to be involved in a WW1 buddy read with a non GR's friend. He is going to be reading; The War That Ended Peace. I am going to be reading along with him one of these..."

Too true Frank as the number of books published or reissued on the first world war and its causes and aftermath will make it hard to choose what to read. I'll be reading people's posts with interest to help me find out and decide what to read.


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Lilo (liloh-p) | 586 comments @ Frank: "1913" also seems a very interesting book. I marked it as TBR. I hope I'll get around to read it.


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Miss M | 196 comments Friend in another group just posted this site/archive. Looks interesting:

http://europeana1914-1918.eu/en


message 17: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 20201 comments Thanks for the link Miss M.


message 18: by Mike, Assisting Moderator US Forces (new)

Mike | 3678 comments Nice site, Miss M!


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happy (happyone) | 2281 comments I'll echo Mike - Nice site!


Cold War Conversations Podcast (cwcpodcast) | 66 comments Currently free on Amazon UK

The Kaiser Warlord Of 2nd Reich http://amzn.to/1f6cX2


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Geevee | 3812 comments Miss M wrote: "Friend in another group just posted this site/archive. Looks interesting:

http://europeana1914-1918.eu/en"


Great site thanks for posting Miss M. I picked the Women section (I am interested in the home front as well as the fighting fronts) and there are some wonderful items including this superb photo album featuring a German family: http://www.europeana1914-1918.eu/en/c... and this scrap book of a young Irish girl: http://www.europeana1914-1918.eu/en/c...

I can see me spending hours in this site, thanks again.


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'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 20201 comments I've decided to read this book next; The War That Ended Peace.


The War That Ended Peace The Road To 1914 by Margaret MacMillan by Margaret MacMillan


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Colin Heaton (colin1962) | 2011 comments My next book out in February is Four war Boer, and is a biography. Covers WW I in Africa, from an interview I did with a participant.


message 24: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 20201 comments Let us know when it's been released Colin as it's sure to interest a few members in the group.


message 25: by Colin (new)

Colin Heaton (colin1962) | 2011 comments Casemate Publishing releasing next month. See it on Amazom


message 26: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 20201 comments I'm enjoying my current book; The War That Ended Peace, however it has reminded me that I really should try and read these books on some of the major people (on Germany's side) that had some bearing on the Germany's history and/or the events leading to 1914:

Tirpitz and the Imperial German Navy by Patrick J. Kelly by Patrick J. Kelly

Bismarck A Life by Jonathan Steinberg by Jonathan Steinberg

Bismarck by Edward Crankshaw by Edward Crankshaw


message 27: by Miss M (new)

Miss M | 196 comments 'Aussie Rick' wrote: "I'm enjoying my current book; The War That Ended Peace, however it has reminded me that I really should try and read these books on some of the major people (on Germany's side) that had some bearin..."

I was tempted by the Steinberg bio when it first came out, but it really has some terrible reviews on amazon--was hoping my library might add it to their ebooks. I have the Crankshaw book, almost forgot, so thanks!
Started Dreadnought by Robert K. Massie
Dreadnought
last night--still early, bit I think it will be very good.


message 28: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 20201 comments I don't think you will be disappointed with Dreadnought, it's a great book!


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Chase (0ctav1an) | 3 comments I'm currently in a Euro History class at college and am reading To End All Wars by Adam Hochschild as part of WWI study. Has anyone read this or heard reviews for it? I'm about 60 pages into it and it's pretty good so far.


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Manray9 | 4827 comments Chase wrote: "I'm currently in a Euro History class at college and am reading To End All Wars by Adam Hochschild as part of WWI study. Has anyone read this or heard reviews for it? I'm about 60 pages into it and..."

Here's a NY Times review by the late Christopher Hitchens:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/15/boo...


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Manray9 | 4827 comments Chase wrote: "I'm currently in a Euro History class at college and am reading To End All Wars by Adam Hochschild as part of WWI study. Has anyone read this or heard reviews for it? I'm about 60 pages into it and..."

Here's the Wash. Post review:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/enterta...


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Manray9 | 4827 comments If any member is looking for a different type of book on the Great War, allow me to recommend:

The War Walk A Journey Along the Western Front by Nigel Jones The War Walk by Nigel Jones.

Jones does it differently. This is a combination history and travelogue of the Western Front. I found it fascinating.

Back to the Front An Accidental Historian Walks the Trenches of World War I by Stephen O'Shea Back to the Front by Stephen O'Shea.

O'Shea's book is described as a "remarkable combination of vivid history and opinionated travel writing." He revisits the Great War as he hikes the remnants of the Western Front. I gave it Four Stars.


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'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 20201 comments Chase wrote: "I'm currently in a Euro History class at college and am reading To End All Wars by Adam Hochschild as part of WWI study. Has anyone read this or heard reviews for it? I'm about 60 pages into it and..."

I read it in 2012 and I really enjoyed the book Chase and I'm sure you will as well.

To End All Wars A Story of Loyalty and Rebellion, 1914-1918 by Adam Hochschild by Adam Hochschild


message 34: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 20201 comments Two good recommendations Manray9. I have both books but have only read Stephen O'Shea's title so far.


message 35: by Mike, Assisting Moderator US Forces (new)

Mike | 3678 comments Manray9 wrote: "Here's a NY Times review by the late Christopher Hitchens:.."

That boy Hitchens could write! Excellent review.


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Colin Heaton (colin1962) | 2011 comments Read any of Prof. Hew Strachan's books on WW I. I used to work for him.


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Geevee | 3812 comments Colin wrote: "Read any of Prof. Hew Strachan's books on WW I. I used to work for him."

I agree Colin, his books are good as was his excellent (UK) Channel 4 series The First World War http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0426688/?...


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Geevee | 3812 comments Chase wrote: "I'm currently in a Euro History class at college and am reading To End All Wars by Adam Hochschild as part of WWI study. Has anyone read this or heard reviews for it? I'm about 60 pages into it and..."

Hi Chase adding to Manray9's posts and Aussie Rick's endorsement here' s three UK reviews. I have it on my TBR and with the interest in the book it has to be worth reading.
The Daily Telegraph: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/bo...

The Guardian: http://www.theguardian.com/books/2011...

The Independent: http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-ent...


message 39: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 20201 comments Thanks for the links to those reviews Geevee, much appreciated.


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happy (happyone) | 2281 comments Geevee wrote: "Colin wrote: "Read any of Prof. Hew Strachan's books on WW I. I used to work for him."

I agree Colin, his books are good as was his excellent (UK) Channel 4 series The First World War http://www...."


I've seen his series on WW I on The Military Channel recently. The Military Channel is also running World War I in color in the mornings this month (I don't know times)


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happy (happyone) | 2281 comments Miss M wrote: "...I was tempted by the Steinberg bio when it first came out, but it really has some terrible reviews on amazon--was hoping my library might add it to their ebooks. I have the Crankshaw book, almost forgot, so thanks!
Started
Dreadnought
last night--still early, bit I think it will be very good."


I'll echo AR - very good read about the Naval Arms Race and its impact on the lead in to WW I. I can also recommend his follow on


Castles of Steel by Robert K. Massie Castles of Steel

Which covers the Naval War including Jutland.


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message 43: by Geevee, Assisting Moderator British & Commonwealth Forces (last edited Feb 05, 2014 12:27PM) (new)

Geevee | 3812 comments Another from the BBC as it commemorates WWI. This features the contemporary film on the battle of the Somme:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/guides/zc3dhyc

And a link about the film via The Imperial War Museum: http://archive.iwm.org.uk/server/show...


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Manray9 | 4827 comments Any recs for a good book on the USMC at Belleau Wood?


message 45: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (last edited Feb 05, 2014 01:29PM) (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 20201 comments Here are two books Manray9 that may be worth while checking out:


Miracle at Belleau Wood The Birth of the Modern U.S. Marine Corps by Alan Axelrod by Alan Axelrod

At Belleau Wood by Robert B. Asprey by Robert B. Asprey

And this one for a general history of the USMC in the Great War:

Devil Dogs Fighting Marines of World War I by George B. Clark by George B. Clark


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'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 20201 comments I am really enjoying the book; The War That Ended Peace. The author has made a story told many times before fresh and new. Although I know the events leading up to 1914 she has added more information around the people and times to make it almost a story not told before.

The War That Ended Peace The Road To 1914 by Margaret MacMillan by Margaret MacMillan


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Geevee | 3812 comments I've not read anything on their actions (although I have visited the area) but this might be one for you: At Belleau Wood by Robert B. Asprey At Belleau Wood by Robert B. Asprey


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Manray9 | 4827 comments Geevee wrote: "I've not read anything on their actions (although I have visited the area) but this might be one for you: At Belleau Wood by Robert B. Asprey At Belleau Wood by [author:Robert B. Aspre..."

Thanks.


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Manray9 | 4827 comments AR: Egg on my face again! Your post made me remember I have a copy of --

Miracle at Belleau Wood The Birth of the Modern U.S. Marine Corps by Alan Axelrod Miracle at Belleau Wood by Alan Axelrod.

Purchased years ago, unread, and forgotten -- until now.


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'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 20201 comments I think I might have a copy unread too but I'm scared to start searching in case I find more :)


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