Don't Say That discussion

This includes what you learn in school. Also, state tests. I can tell you that right now NY has gone test happy. Yeah, not.

i feel like some of the things i learn are sort of useless for me (quadratic functions) but i still try my best anyway. i got my report card back....straight A's!

True, even the teachers told me that some of the things we learn are going to be useless in real life.

I hate Common Core with a passion. It's pure dumbness and is just brainwashing kids!

I know right

Really?

Yes. It's very very very annoying. But if you ever say that to the board of ed or the Common Core peoples, they quickly shut you up. That's cause they don't want people to realize what they are doing is wrong.

What I don't like about Common Core is that there is so little freedom. Teachers are told what to teach and students are told how to think. Besides, a lot of what we learn really is useless. If I go major in English, am I going to need the Pythagorean Theorem? It's ingrained in my memory.

EXACTLY! When they ask for YOUR opinion, they are asking for theirs. They obviously don't know what OPINION means -_-

I understand why some people feel this way, but I actually like that we are "forced" to take classes, like Algebra, Geometry etc. For me, it personally helped set me up on the path of math classes I want to take. The thing is, you need these core classes in order to go on to higher classes to get to the career that you want. Just think about how stupid our generation would be if we had freedom choosing our classes, LOL.

Haha, my pre-calc teacher is always complaining about how it's stupid how kids are forced to take Algebra, that it's not essential. LOL personally I loved Algebra.

Yeah, I don't mind being forced to take classes, but the way the curriculum is and sometimes the way the classes are taught and especially the standardized tests.

Common Core lowered my school's standards. Some people may like that, but I work my butt off to see my report card pass my parents' inspection and get High Honor Roll, and there's slackers who just cheat getting the same grades! This was probably true before Common Core for other schools, but NOT FOR ME.
As for state tests (or just standardized testing), multiple-choice is helpful when you are uncertain about an answer. When it comes to English, and you have to analyze text, I see things differently than the test-makers. So, of course, I score a little lower on Reading compared to the other subjects. How is this fair? I just interpret text differently. It's still true, whatever way you look at it.

Common Core is a new educational standard way of teaching in schools, for those of you that don't know. It has been implemented into 45 of the 50 states of the US. It has NOTHING to do with being "forced" to take classes. What it is is a system of teaching or what I believe, brainwashing. I absolutely hate it when people are ignorant in realizing what it is REALLY doing. They call it Common Core because they believe that everyone should be "striving towards college readiness", no matter what grade. Now I'm sorry but why does a first grader for instant, have to start trying to do almost college level work? There is a reason for all the grades in schools and that's so you learn more in depth stuff as you get older because you physically can absorb the information better than you could when you were 5. The name in itself bothers me because it shows what they think. They think there should be a common level of learning. If you don't fit into THEIR standards, well, then there must be something wrong with you. I was getting great grades before Common Core surfaced. Now they complicate the easiest things to make it all look for sophisticated. But again my BIGGEST issue is the fact how they are basically tyrants. They ASK for YOUR opinion, but if it doesn't "match" THEIRS then it's "wrong". My opinion is MINE. NOT theirs. They will NOT tell ME HOW to think. The first amendment insures the freedom of speech. Yet if you SAY anything against Common Core you get in trouble. They don't want you knowing the truth. They are warping our minds so that eventually all that will remain will be those kids who ONLY knew the Common Core ways and nothing about what it USED to be like. If I said this elsewhere, they would want to arrest me. It actually has happened. You can look on YouTube if you don't believe me. A guy tried to say something about Common Core at a parent meeting with people from one of the schools that has Common Core. They wouldn't let him finish talking, which is HIS right. And they had security try to take him out and then he got arrested. Mind you, he was respectful the whole time. Common Core is wrong.

Eh...I have my own perspective on this as a college student. I don't mind Common Core because, in order to have you know what to think, they have to start you off with a certain perspective first. For example, if they tell you 1+1=3, the point is for you to take it at face value until you realize that it really equals 2.

That's a bad example. Let me explain a more real-life thing.

In school, they taught me a certain perspective on the Revolutionary War. Then I lived with a British family for 5 years and got their perspective (they don't care, if you're wondering...but they do have a more realistic view of the founding fathers), and now I have a more balanced view of our country's fight for independence. But first, they had to make me believe something so I could challenge it later.

Yea I get the whole, "know all sides" thing. But that's not what they are doing. They are enforcing their opinions, tricking the mindless that it is their own opinion.

I'm not saying they're telling you to know all sides. I'm saying they're forcing an opinion on you for you to challenge later.

Another example: in high school, I was taught a very conservative view in class. But now that I'm away from that, I'm looking critically at the conservatism and deciding which bits work for me and which don't. My perspective on everything doesn't line up with the school's, but I needed to have a personal belief to challenge anyway.

Think of it this way...you know how most debates end up with nobody winning? Well, I find it easier to debate with yourself than to debate with others, so the school is giving you a perspective to debate with yourself, rather than teaching all sides and telling the students to pick one.

I don't need to debate on what I believe with myself because I already know. It's not right for them to allow those to speak that have the same opinions but if you don't, you are wrong & silenced.

Maybe it's because, in your young age, you're not mature enough to really argue any side....

Im 15. I can very easily argue any side, thank you.

um i have no idea what common core is?

Read the thread. It'll explain it.

Miss…Waitwhat? [Taylor] wrote: "Read the thread. It'll explain it."

yeah i guess i kinda get what there saying but i don't have anything to say on it

Common Core is so ridiculous because the majority of good sensible people hate it but it's the big whigs who control everything, so our say in the system goes unheard. I'm so glad that I am almost done with the public school system, that's why I'm not as angry about it as I could be. If I was a lot younger and still had many more years of public school left I would be hopping mad.

Im mad and not only for myself. I'm mad for my sister who is only in 4th grade. I'm mad for my cousins. I'm mad for every kid who has to deal with this junk.

Yeah I mean I try not to be an angry activist about everything, but sometimes you just gotta.

"The first amendment insures the freedom of speech. Yet if you SAY anything against Common Core you get in trouble."
I do believe you could probably take this to the Supreme Court, if it is as Un-Constitutional as you believe it to be.

Well it's more like if you say anything against it your teachers and school officials will shut you down and basically tell you you're wrong. Yes it feels like a dictatorship sometimes in our school system.

Yea that AND as I said before I saw a video of a father at a school meeting and when he questioned Common Core they made him stop and when he tried to say he was just asking a question like everyone else, they had security come and take him out

School boards and school administrations sicken me. I get so angry I would probably be arrested for how much whoopass I would want to unleash on them.

Lol yea. What grade are you in?

10th

Me too :)

Unite haha

Lol yep ;)

Against Common Core! (we'd be dead in seconds. Or no, we would "disappear"..)

Haha yeah for sure

Isn't it sad though? It shouldn't be that way..

I agree. So many things in our school system should never be that way yet they are.

Do you know what states Common Core happens in??? O.O

Years ago it wasn't like this... We're growing up in a terrible generation.

I heard of Common Core, but I don't have to use it, because I'm homeschooled. Personally, I don't think that it's going to help much. One of the problems I had in public school was that they were trying to keep everyone on the same academic level, despite the levels at which they learn. If the entire country starts using it, then it keeps everyone at the same level. If everyone is at the same level, how can we tell who's better?

Yeah it's like the existing public school that you had a problem with, but like 1000 times worse.

One good thing (And probably the only) I can say about Scottish education is that they teach each student at their individual level... Hence, when I was 8, I was already doing secondary school work, and even taking the occasional history lesson.
XD

That is sooooo cool!

@Khalif: I know right???

@Black star: What what means? I can't see anything there that wouldn't make sense...

Well in America it's not called secondary school so maybe that's where the confusion is coming from.

Secondary school starts age... ... ... ..11

Lol... Joe just LOVES to show off

Paigetwo *Caitlyn* wrote: "Lol... Joe just LOVES to show off"

I would consider it rather a hobby of mine.

The Phantom wrote: "Secondary school starts age... ... ... ..11"

OOh so you were 3 years ahead, good for you ;P

The Phantom wrote: "Paigetwo *Caitlyn* wrote: "Lol... Joe just LOVES to show off"

I would consider it rather a hobby of mine."

Mmmhmm