The Seasonal Reading Challenge discussion

30.5 - Ty's task: Poetry Counts

Poetic forms are sometimes interestingly mathematical in terms of patterns, structure, and rhyming.

Please read one book from 2 different poetic forms below.

Option 1 - Haikus are lovingly elegant and consist of 3 lines of a 5/7/5 syllabic form. Read one book in which the entire title consists of either 5 or 7 syllables. A one word title if fine as long as the word is 5 or 7 syllables long. Subtitles not included. For help with syllable counting, you can use a syllable counter.

Option 2 - Limericks are the drunk uncles of the poetry world. The last word of the first, second, and fifth lines of a limerick are rhyming 3-syllabic words. Read one book with a title, subtitle, and/or series name containing at least 2 different words that rhyme. The words must be a pure rhyme as specified by Wikirhymer. Singular/plural matchings are allowed. So Night and Lights would work in Friday Night Lights: A Town, a Team, and a Dream. Of course, so would Team and Dream. Plurals of the same word would not work. Required: State the rhyming words.

Option 3 - Shakespearean sonnets consist of 14 lines written in iambic pentameter. Read a book with a title consisting of exactly 14 letters, including at least one word that is exactly 5 letters long. Subtitles are NOT included. Ampersands and numerals (including ordinals) count as if they were written out, but contractions do not. So, for example, if the title contains an ordinal number such as "11th," the eleventh would count as 8 letters. The contraction "couldn't" would count for 7 letters.

Option 4 - The Villanelle is an extremely rigid and structured poetic form - helped only by repeated lines throughout the stanzas. One of the most popular villanelles is Dylan Thomas' Do not go gentle into that good night. For this option, read a book with a title and/or subtitle consisting of the same word repeated at least twice. No variations allowed. A, an, and the are excluded. The words must be exactly the same. Ex: Crooked Letter, Crooked Letter, Star Light, Star Bright

Required: Identify which options you used and supply any other required information when you post.

In the room the women come and go...

(yes)

Option 1:
The Fault in Our Stars
The Canterville Ghost
A Murderous Procession
The Girl Who Disappeared Twice
Magical Kittens
Absolute Power
Cyrano de Bergerac
The Opportunist
Trouble & the Wallflower
The Casual Vacancy
The Wind-Up Bird Chronicle


Option 2:
Love Above All
Nine Rules to Break When Romancing a Rake
The Penguin Who Knew Too Much
All the Light We Cannot See
Creature Feature



Option 3:
The Forest House
The Ghost Walker
Defending Jacob

Option 4:
Loves Music, Loves to Dance
The City and the City
A Red, Red Rose
Will Grayson, Will Grayson
The War of the End of the World
Life After Life
Mom & Me & Mom

Talking of Michelangelo.

(no)

Option 1:
The Other Boleyn Girl
The Voyage of the Dawn Treader
The September Society


Option 3:
Heart-Shaped Box
Underestimated
The Opportunist
Bellman & Black

Option 4:
The Bourne Supremacy

This thread is now open!

Scary!! Lol!!

nuh uh....

Option 2 - Love Above All - love/above

Ty, this is such a well-thought out task. Kudos !

Would like to get the approval for the following two books.

Option 1 : The Fault in Our Stars by John Green
(The Syllable Counter tallies the count to 5)

Option 4 : Loves Music, Loves to Dance by Mary Higgins Clark

Will this title work for option 4?

The Bourne Supremacy (Jason Bourne, #2)

Apoorv wrote: "Ty, this is such a well-thought out task. Kudos !

Would like to get the approval for the following two books.

Option 1 : The Fault in Our Stars by John Green
(The..."

nice choices. good to go.

Rhonda wrote: "Will this title work for option 4?

The Bourne Supremacy"

I'm not sure what the repeating word is, unless you're counting "Bourne" in the series name, which is not allowed.

Dee wrote: "Option 2 - Love Above All - love/above"

nice.

For option 3 -- do we ignore apostrophe and ampersand?

doesn't = 6 letters and & doesn't count at all -- is this correct?

For Option 3:
I am reading

Heart-Shaped Box by Joe Hill
this works right?

Heart-5
Shaped-6
box-3


For Option 1:

The Canterville Ghost by oscar wilde

however the syllable counter doesn't recognize
"Canterville" so it programmatically counts it as four syllables

I don't know it doesn't sound right, canterville should be three, no?

can_ter_ville --when i say ville its one syllable not vi-lle.

suggestions?

For option 3-The Forest House

Susan A wrote: "For option 3 -- do we ignore apostrophe and ampersand?

doesn't = 6 letters and & doesn't count at all -- is this correct?"

conferring with mods. will get back to you

Delmy =^.^= wrote: "For Option 3:
I am reading

Heart-Shaped Box by Joe Hill
this works right?

Heart-5
Shaped-6
box-3


For Option 1:

The Canterville Ghost by oscar wilde

however the syl..."

"Heart-shaped" is considered one compound word, due to hyphenation, so no, it wouldn't work for that option.

The Canterville Ghost is good for Option 1.

Jayme(the ghost reader) wrote: "For option 3-The Forest House"

Please provide a link or at least an author.

The Forest House
Here is the link.

OK.

So i am doing :

Option 1: The Canterville Ghost by oscar wilde

Option 4: The City and the City by china mieville

Option 1: 7 syllables - A Murderous Procession

Option 3: 14 letters - The Ghost Walker

Will those work?

Jayme(the ghost reader) wrote: "The Forest House
Here is the link."

Yes for Option 3.

Delmy =^.^= wrote: "Option 4: The City and the City by china mieville"

yep

(also would work for Sandy's task :)

Bea wrote: "Option 1: 7 syllables - A Murderous Procession

Option 3: 14 letters - The Ghost Walker

Will those work?"

yes

for option 3, can we use a one word title? Underestimated

Sassafrass wrote: "for option 3, can we use a one word title? Underestimated "

No, sorry, there has to be one separate word that is exactly 5 letters long in the title.

Susan A wrote: "For option 3 -- do we ignore apostrophe and ampersand?

doesn't = 6 letters and & doesn't count at all -- is this correct?"

Okay, here's what the mods and I have come up with -

Word contractions are acceptable as the apostrophe or the missing letters are not pronounced. However, ampersands - and other characters such as numbers/numerals or ordinals using numbers - would count for the full letter count as if it were written out.

Ty wrote: "Sassafrass wrote: "for option 3, can we use a one word title? Underestimated "

No, sorry, there has to be one separate word that is exactly 5 letters long in the title."

Ooops, must have misread. Thanks!

Will this work for option 1, 5 syllables? The Other Boleyn Girl

Rhonda wrote: "Will this work for option 1, 5 syllables? The Other Boleyn Girl"

I'm counting 6 syllables.

OPTION 1 = The Girl Who Disappeared Twice - Andrea Kane = 7 syllables

OPTION 4 = A Red, Red Rose - Susan Coryell = RED RED

Fiona (Titch) wrote: "OPTION 1 = The Girl Who Disappeared Twice - Andrea Kane = 7 syllables

OPTION 4 = A Red, Red Rose - Susan Coryell = RED RED"

looks good

I am thinking of reading these. Thought I should verify first. Thanx

Option 1: Magical Kittens - 5 syllables per syllable counter

Option 4: Will Grayson, Will Grayson

Helen wrote: "I am thinking of reading these. Thought I should verify first. Thanx

Option 1: Magical Kittens - 5 syllables per syllable counter

Option 4: Will Grayson, Will Grayson"


both work

Will this work for option 1? Absolute Power

Rhonda wrote: "Will this work for option 1? Absolute Power"

yes

Is "of" a big enough word for option 4?

The War of the End of the World by Mario Vargas Llosa

Karen GHHS wrote: "Is "of" a big enough word for option 4?

The War of the End of the World by Mario Vargas Llosa"

yep. that qualifies.

Option 1: Cyrano de Bergerac by Edmond Rostand

Option 3: The Forest House by Marion Zimmer Bradley

Claire wrote: "Option 1: Cyrano de Bergerac by Edmond Rostand

Option 3: The Forest House by Marion Zimmer Bradley"

yes to option 1 - I'm going with the Anglicized pronunciation....

The Forest House previously approved. See msg 2.

Just wanted to confirm that a proper noun is o.k. for the 5-letter word in option 3:

Defending Jacob

Ann A wrote: "Just wanted to confirm that a proper name is o.k. for the 5-letter word in option 3:

Defending Jacob"

yes

Would this work for Option 2 with the rhyming words being Break & Rake?


Nine Rules to Break When Romancing a Rake

Lacy wrote: "Would this work for Option 2 with the rhyming words being Break & Rake?


Nine Rules to Break When Romancing a Rake"

yep

for option 1 or option 3 - The Opportunist

Skandia wrote: "for option 1 or option 3 - The Opportunist"

yes for option 1, no for option 3 - there has to be one separate word that is exactly 5 letters long in the title.

Allison wrote: "Option 4 does this work: Life After Life"

yes

Allison wrote: "And for #1: The Voyage of the Dawn Treader (7 syllables)

It is a children's but I didn't see anything against it so wanted to double check."

Children's books would have to be over 300 pages. The version you linked is only 256 pages.

edit - also, I'm counting 8 syllables

I'm sorry. I'm stuck on the ampersand again.
Thanks for your help and patience.

For Option 1: 5 or 7 syllables
Trouble & the Wallflower

when said out loud is 7 syllables -- if this is okay, then ignore the rest of my post!


When I type it with the ampersand into the syllable converter, it ignores the ampersand and gives me 6 syllables.

If I type "and" instead, I get 7 syllables.

Susan A wrote: "I'm sorry. I'm stuck on the ampersand again.
Thanks for your help and patience.

For Option 1: 5 or 7 syllables
Trouble & the Wallflower

when said out loud is 7 syllables -- if ..."

that works