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Snafuzled **** PLEASE DON'T READ IF YOU HAVE NOT READ THE BOOK*****

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Okay, y'all. First of all if you see this Ms. Read - I would really appreciate a companion book from Naomi's doctor and Lachlan's point of view! Great book part two! Thank you!! :-p (Oh, and please add something about what happened to the evil mother!! And make it really painful for her!) LOL

So, I have a question and would love to get your thoughts. I get Lana and Naomi. I guessed at the the split personality thing about 25% into the read. But I'm still confused about Max. At the end it says that Lana was her only other personality, so what role did Max play. How real was he? Was Max a figment of her imagination or was he always just Lach and she saw him as Max. At the party in the beginning was Lach just playing along with her at the 'introduction'. Didn't she call him Max? What did he think that was about. When she was googling rape, was it Lach that figured out the truth?

But then she kept having visions of Max in the hospital, so thinking back it makes me wonder if Lach and Max are totally separate. Could she just have imagined all of her interactions with Max. Ahh!! I don't think so. I think Max was always just Lach. But I just wonder what in the world Lach though of that. I wonder when Lach realized there was no Lana. Was he 'Max' and thought they were just messing around?

See where Lach's POV in a companion would be great! I wonder what Naomi's breakdowns looked like to others?

I'm sure I'll have more questions later. These are just the thoughts running through my head at the end of the book. Let me know what you think! :)


Alessandra I agree, I would like a POV from Lach as I think it could really explain the party scene where they meet, and other things that happen in the story. However I do believe that no-one aside from Naomi is ever around when Lana is, Naomi may mention her (I think Lach asks at one point if he's ever going to get to meet the elusive Lana)but I don't believe Lana is present when anyone else is there (except when the group therepy session happens but that is a child version of Lana).

I would love to have this clarified by Calia Read too, as I did find that a little confusing.

Otherwise I totally loved the book :)


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Amy Phillips I went back and read through the conversions with Max, and I didn't notice that she ever said his name. That part of the story has been replaying in my head since I finished the book. I would love a book from Lach's POV


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Ebs On her website Unravel is listed as a series, so I'm hoping we do get to see a POV from Lach.

I agree with everything you said...I have like all the same questions.

I'm think that Lach was Max the whole time. In the whole book, she never actually called Max by his name..except when she was telling Lach that she was seeing someone (Max) which I believe is when Lach really started to realize Naomi was falling a part.

But I also kind of thought that maybe Lach knew something was up after her talked to his mom about Lana... His mom seemed to know how broken Naomi was.

Hmm.. Wish I knew the answers!


Suemac In the very last chapter "UNVEIL" Lach asks her if she is ready (to light off the fireworks) and she says " I look over at Lachlan MAXIMILIAN Halstead. "I'm ready." Max is Lach's middle name although she says that the doctors are baffled as to why she created an alter ego for Lach and she is not sure either except to survive,


Alessandra Suemac that's so true!!! I want a Lachlan pov though still (:


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Amy Phillips I didn't catch that, but just went and re-read that last chapter again. Thanks!!!


message 8: by Snafuzled (last edited Feb 19, 2014 11:19AM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Snafuzled Thanks for commenting guys! I'm glad to know I'm not alone in my ponderings.

Ebony - I think you are spot on. I didn't know it was listed as a series! That would work well, especially considering how abruptly the story ended. Towards the end, I started panicking about a cliff hanger. I HATE those! It would be great to see her healing process and Lach and Naomi's character development.

Alessandra - I believe that they were all (Max, Lana, Naomi) together when they went apartment shopping... right? Except the realator kept talking to Max - and not Lana which I remember thinking was strange. At the very least why wasn't she addressing Naomi? UNLESS - Max was really just in her head in that part and it was the three muskateers in one form... Dum Dum DAAAA!!!

Amy - I was going back through too and I don't see her actually calling him Max. Possible explanation - I wonder if he used Max as his business name, thus being called that at the party. That could make sense and not that uncommon in business.

Suemac - I loved that firework scene! National Naomi Day!

Last thought - if Lach was Naomi's 'safe place', perhaps she created Lana as an off shoot of her relationship with Lachlan. The beginning and end of LAchlAN can spell Lana backwards. Hmmmm... or maybe I'm thinking too much and it's just coincidence. LOL


❤️Melanie G.📖💛 I wonder if Lachlan knew all along what was actually going on with Lana/Naomi and went along with her as in being Max for her. Great story and beautifully written. It would make a wonderful book to have Lachlan's story.


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Ebs Snafuzled: I love the way you think!

I didn't even think about the whole apartment searching scene. Great point. I also had the same thought about Lana and Lachlan's name being similar.

the whole party scene...when she was "introduced" to Max..Patrick never actually said that his name was Max he called him "my boy". So I don't think anybody actually was calling him Max for business reasons or anything.

But I still wonder how much of Max was Lach in the first place. I remember in the beginning of the book, Naomi's dad said he didn't like the Halsteads...so why was he doing business with Max in the first place if Max and Lach are one in the same? Or maybe he didn't dislike them that much? Idk maybe I'm reading too much into it?


Alessandra Snafulzed - damn me and my memory you're 100% right!


message 12: by Pamela (last edited Feb 20, 2014 12:35PM) (new) - rated it 3 stars

Pamela In the epilogue it reads as follows:

"But Lana was my only personality. My only alter. My only part. And creating Max? Well, that was a whole other twist that baffled Dr. Rutledge and the rest of the doctors."

Perhaps Naomi created the character "Max" for "Lana." I'm thinking perhaps replace Lachlin with the name "Max" so as to not associate the good (Lachlin) with the bad that is Lana.


Snafuzled Pam: 'Perhaps Naomi created the character "Max" for "Lana." I'm thinking perhaps replace Lachlin with the name "Max" so as to not associate the good (Lachlin) with the bad that is Lana.'

What if Lana could create personalities... like instead of split peronalities... it's a TRIPLE SPLIT!!! My mind just exploded! LOL

Melanie - Yep, we need to hear from Mr. Lach.


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Ebs Pam: I think that's a good way to think about it. I think that makes a lot of sense that Naomi wouldn't want Lach to know the bad part of her (Lana).

Snafuzled: You are hilarious!


Pamela Ebony wrote: "Pam: I think that's a good way to think about it. I think that makes a lot of sense that Naomi wouldn't want Lach to know the bad part of her (Lana).

Snafuzled: You are hilarious!"


Ebony,

Thanks. That's the only thing I can come up with.

A lot of children make up an imaginary friend. Considering Naomi is being homeschooled, has no friends, is forced to stay home at all times, and has no support from her own mother, on top of which she's being sexually abused, is it any wonder her mind split and created Lana?


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Ebs It's not surprising at all.


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Tish The apartment scene has me baffled. I think at that point Lachlan knew she was losing it, it the scene really happened. This is the first time I actually want a POV novel from another character.


Leslie So was Lachlan arrested for insider trading?


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Ebs I'm not sure Leslie... I think so because when Lachlan took Naomi for her weekend pass.. He said he liked living at the house he had because nobody recognized his name.. But who knows?!


Alessandra I reckon he did because Naomi's dad was trying to get him out of the way I think


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Alessandra I was a little confused about Max as well and after thinking about it literally all night I think everything that happened to or with Max was really Lachlan. I was so confused as to why Lachlan went nuts when he saw Dr. Woods but he obviously knew who he was and how Naomi's dad knew him so I definitely think Naomi's dad had him arrested for insider trading to get him away from Naomi. Plus the point Ebony made about his comment about nobody knowing his name out in the middle of nowhere. This was a FANTASTIC book! Loved it!


Alessandra I agree with my name twin!


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Alessandra The more I think about it the more I'm confusing myself! Do we think the scene at the office with the secretary actually happened but with Lachlan? What happened at the part when she first saw "Max"?


Leslie Thanks Ebony it makes since...I think I'm going to find myself rereading this one in the future. Alessandra, maybe it was when they first got into town from summer break and was the first time she and Lachlan saw each other in a while. Lana is the one who tells her the host of the party is Max. When they are introduced he kinds acts like he knows her but his name is never mentioned.


Gayatri Leslie wrote: "So was Lachlan arrested for insider trading?"

Thats what I really want to know as well! Was everything that happened to Max actually happened to Lachlan? Does that mean Lachlan was the one who confronted her father and went apartment shopping with her? If Lachlan was Max and was arrested it makes sense since the home he took Naomi to over the weekend was small and had paint chipping off. Maybe Lachlan did lose a lot of clients thus money so had to downsize. I REALLYYYYY hope there's a book written with Lachlan's point of view!


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Ebs Welcome to the club Geetu :)


Deborah lesie- I think you are right and he was at the very least hit hard money-wise with the insider trading stuff. Even if he never was indicted, he took a financial hit. At least judging by the cottage he took Naomi to for the weekend pass.

I loved the book, but still felt there were a lot of questions that weren't addressed or that were glossed over.


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I just finished this too...I don't know why but it seemed really obvious to me that Lana and Max were made up in her head. I actually thought it was the authors intent for us to know that. I think everything that happened to Max actually happened to Lachlan. If you read carefully Naomi never used Max's name when she addressed him/Lachlan...its possible that Lachlan didn't realize that she had turned him into Max and only realized when she started to spin out of control. And towards the end of the book when they meet in the woods and Naomi tells Lachlan that there has been someone else. He replies something to the affect that it has always been him. Lachlan. And he seems stunned-not that there was someone else but its almost like that is when he realizes she needed help.


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Lachlan was supposed to come back to McLean and establish himself while Naomi was at college...so its possible they had not seen each other in a long while and maybe the first time they saw each other after her being back from college was at this party. I just think the way their "first" introduction was written at the party-it seemed that "Max"-really Lachlan- was way to familiar with her as if he already knew her. Same with when he he asked her to go to dinner...there was never any mention about them exchanging phone numbers but yet, "Max-really Lachlan- called her about confirming dinner. Because Lachlan already had her number so there is no point to ask for it.


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Geri I'm not sure if I'll explain this right, but I believe Max was created in Naomi's mind because she needed someone separate to handle the issues with her dad. Max seemed more in control and more grown up. Even though Lachlan is 5 years older than Naomi, Max seemed more mature.

I think she put Lachlan as a childhood love while Max was something more. Her past life with Lachlan had more innocence attached to it. Just my 2 cents :P


Stephanie Marie Phew! Calia Read announced there will be another book! I can't wait!

http://caliareadsandwrites.blogspot.d...


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Yay!!!!!!!!!


Stephanie Marie I am stalking Calia Read's Facebook page and she commented that there will be a book from Lachlan's POV.


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That's awesome- usually a POV switch is so predictable but with this story it is absolutely needed.


Alessandra oh thank goodness there is going to be a second book, I think we all need things explained to us!!!


message 36: by Mary (last edited Apr 25, 2014 02:52PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Mary I think she spun off Max as a separate personality after she and Lachlan have sex for the first time. I think Max is a construct she created to deal with her own lust. Note the way that Max handles sex with Naomi even after he learns what she has been through.....He's aggressive and swears a lot...Note later in the book when Lachlan and Naomi have sex, he allows her to have control and it is more making love than sex.

I'm also going to speculate that Lachlan figures out exactly what happened to Naomi when he takes her virginity and it isn't there. This missing scene could easily be written into the next book.


Mollie Stacey wrote: "Lachlan was supposed to come back to McLean and establish himself while Naomi was at college...so its possible they had not seen each other in a long while and maybe the first time they saw each ot..."

Excellent point about Max's first encounter with Naomi. They were apart for a while before seeing each other again at the party.
I think the identity/name change represented the new Lachlan. To her, he was no longer the boy next door. He was now Max, a newly established and successful businessman. I'm not familiar with how people with that condition cope with change, but that could explain it.


message 38: by Mollie (last edited Apr 26, 2014 09:08PM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Mollie Mary wrote: "I think she spun off Max as a separate personality after she and Lachlan have sex for the first time. I think Max is a construct she created to deal with her own lust. Note the way that Max handl..."

Good points! Lust and the overall growth and change of Lachlan.


Mollie Raise your hand if you're relieved you didn't have to pick a book boyfriend team? *raises hand*



Mollie Stephanie wrote: "I am stalking Calia Read's Facebook page and she commented that there will be a book from Lachlan's POV."

Can you post a link to her page?


Leslie *Raises hands* I liked them both


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Ebs *raises hand*

link to Calia Read's facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/CaliaRead


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Agos Aguilera Mollie wrote: "Raise your hand if you're relieved you didn't have to pick a book boyfriend team? *raises hand*
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*raises hands*

Hi, so i read this book two weeks ago. OH MY GOD. I was like "i cant believe i didn't see this one coming" because i had a lot of theories!!! And one of them were almost .. almost the truth one but jesuschrist.

By the way i remember the first time that she had sex with Lachlan and the "first" time she had sex with Max. i THINK the "Two of them" after sex told her "god, i love you". The same quote, it was so so exactly that i was like "wait, what just happened here?"


Heidi I cannot stop thinking about this book! Now that I know what's going on here I feel like I need to read it again! I would love to see a book from Lach's POV! That would definitely clear some things up for me! I kinda guessed the multiple personality angle pretty early on. But the whole Lachlan/Max thing is a total mind f*#k for me! Was he a figment of her imagination? Were all of the Max parts fantasies or did they actually happen with Lach? I agree with what others said, I dont recall her ever calling Max by name. One of the things that stands out for me is that when they were intimate whether it be sex or just making out, he was adamant on her SEEING him and knowing that it was him. So I think that was Lach's way of telling her 'I am right here, it's me!' like he knew that she was falling apart. Actually, I think he knew from the min he met her that she was a strange little girl who didnt have much going on or any friends. And when she tells him that she has been seeing someone he really knew she was losing it! He told her 'that was me!' Oh and I just thought about this too, when she describes what Max is wearing when he is casually dressed, it is exactly the same as when she describes what Lach is wearing! (minus the brown jacket) That may not be a big deal, guys wear jeans and dark blue t shirts all the time, but for some reason that stuck out to me. So I think maybe those things did actually happen but with Lachlan, but was he just playing along? Did he not catch on at first that she thought he was someone completely different? Uggh! I cant get this book out of my head!


Deborah I had a book hangover after this one for awhile too!


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