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Looks like I've got the first comment!1. First mention of the comet! Maester Luwin spots it in his lens tube, doing astronomical measurements. He sure sounds smart!
2. Bran watches Ser Rodrik training new men to guard Winterfell since Ned took the best and Robb the rest (didn't mean to rhyme!). He stares resentfully at the boys down below. You can tell he really misses having working legs! He still wants to be a knight so badly. Even if Hodor has to be his legs for him to do it, awe. :)
3. I like how Maester Luwin tries to handle telling Bran that wouldn't work. "Bran, when a man fights, his arms and legs and thoughts must be as one." *SPOILER FOR A STORM OF SWORDS* (view spoiler) It breaks my heart when he says, "You must put these dreams aside, they will only break your heart." :( I know he means well, but it is tough love, and true. It would be cruel to feed Bran's hopes of becoming a knight if it's just not possible.It is good he's hearing it from Luwin and not someone who would make fun of him.
4. OMG! I completely forgot about Bran's dream including Jon! I thought he only dreamed of the three-eyed-raven and his father in the crypts. Completely forgot about it having "...something to do about Jon, I think." The dream had been deeply disturbing, more so than any of the other crow dreams."
- Now there's even more proof that Jon is fated to visit the crypts. It's not just Jon having these dreams; Bran's having them, too. :)
-- In his dream, Ned is sad and talks to Bran. I wonder what he says? Does Bran not remember any of it?
5. Poor Hodor is scared of the crypts. Not even the torchlight will stay his fear. And I laughed at Old Nan always smacking him on his head. Maybe that's why he's simple! And I really like that Maester Luwin says, "Hodor is a man, not a mule to be beaten." :)
6. It's spooky that Bran knows Ned is dead, from his dreams. He just doesn't know he knows.
7. Even though Hodor refuses to go down, Osha takes Bran. :) I really like her; she is so good to the kids. Especially like that Ser Rodrik had her chains cut because she's served faithfully.
8. He remembers playing down here with his siblings when he was little. :) It seems odd, though, how Jon is now frightened at the thought of going back down there when he shared so many good memories with his siblings.
9. Creepy how even Summer, the direwolf, bares his teeth at the Kings of Winter and refuses to leave the steps. I like how Osha says, "Winter's got no king. If you'd seen it, you'd know that, summer boy."
10. Didn't realize the crypts were cavernous, and even longer than Winterfell itself. Lots of room for past and future kings/lords. There must be far more kings than lords down here, then, if you think back on the history of Westeros. Jon told Bran once there are lower levels where the older kings are. "It would not do to lose the light." Hmm...
11. I like that one of the kings/lords is Jon Stark. He drove the raiders out from the east and built White Harbor. Interesting.
12. I like how Bran talks about his Uncle Brandon Stark, then says, "...are in the tombs beside him. Not me, another Brandon, my father's brother." Interesting how Brandon and Lyanna aren't supposed to have statues, that's only for lords and kings, but Ned had them made anyway because he loved them so much. I wonder if this angers the other spirits down here.
13. Here we hear Bran recounting the tale of Lyanna and Rhaegar. Osha says it's a sad tale. I'm surprised a brawny girl like her would admit to this.
14. Maester Luwin shows Bran his father's vault. Seems empty. Luwin inspects it when Shaggydog leaps out and attacks the Maester! OMG! Bad dog! lol. Shaggy's eyes are described again as "green fire." *SPOILER FOR A SONG OF ICE AND FIRE* (view spoiler) Summer finally springs from the stairs to stop Shaggydog. It's sad to see the brothers fighting. :( It only stops when Rickon comes out from Lord Eddard's vault, calling his direwolf to his side. For some reason he thought Maester Luwin was going to harm his father. Poor baby.
15. Apparently Rickon's had the same dream too, about their father coming home. So sad. Bran is only 7 but he's trying to reason with a 4 year old. Maester Luwin is injured. This is really getting out of hand.
16. "Bran had never seen Maester Luwin look so uncertain before." Wow. He even calls Shaggydog a beast. Normally he doesn't do that, but right now he's just gotten savaged, so I understand he's losing his patience.
17. I think it's interesting that the 4 year old, of all people, is not afraid of the dark. He wants to stay down here and wait for his father. :(
18. It's sad they don't understand yet why Shaggydog is so wild. *SPOILER FOR A CLASH OF KINGS* (view spoiler) Plus, it seems like everyone is ignoring Rickon, because how in the hell did they not notice the boy was missing for so long???
19. Bran finally manages to convince Rickon to come with him, and Shaggydog too, despite the Maester's wishes. I like how good Osha is to them, reminding Luwin that they're the lords, not him. :)
20. Back at the Maester's tower, Luwin is still going on about the logics of two boys having the same dream and explains it must because they miss their father. Luwin does not believe in legends; he believes in facts.
21. According to Rickon, he's 4 now. Did nobody remember his birthday? How sad.
22. Luwin says dreams are only dreams but Osha says some aren't. She is so wise. Luwin gapes at her, lol. She says the children of the forest can tell him a thing or two about dreaming. Ha!
23. I think it's strange how Luwin decides to show Bran and the others a jar full of dragonglass arrowheads, obsidian, cool! Where did he get them He says in place of swords the children armed themselves with this stuff. I like that he gives some to the children, but they are very sharp still! Rickon wants four because he's 4 now, lol. So cute. Luwin also tells them about the children, even though he doesn't think they exist anymore. I like that he is a wealth of information and is trying to turn this into a learning session, lol. I didn't know they were "dark." Their wisemen are called greenseers, okay. I forgot it was the greenseers who carved the faces in the weirwood trees so they can keep watch. :) 12,000 years ago the First Men came, such a long time ago! I forgot that. They crossed through the arm of Dorne when it was still attached to Essos, like how the native amaricans crossed the Baring Straight. They forged a Pact at the God's Eye, giving the children of the forest the forest domain as forever theirs. Every tree on the God's Eye was given a face. I really want to see this place!
24. Osha says they're still alive north of the Wall. That's rude of Luwin to tell her it's wrong to tell these boys such lies. What does he know about the things above the Wall? That's where she's from!
25. "So long as the kingdoms of the First Men held sway, the Pact endured." Hmm...almost sounds as if it pertains to the Starks, who boast they still are the blood of the First Men, and "there must always be a Stark in Winterfell." Kind of puts a whole new meaning to it. *SPOILER FOR A DANCE WITH DRAGONS* (view spoiler)
26. Maester Luwin explains how the Andals killed the children and burned the weirwoods when they are interrupted by a crow delivering a letter that Ned is gone. I feel so bad for those kids! Even Maester Luwin, who looks totally distraught. I think this teaches the maester that the kid's dreams were very real. They warned them what happened. Bran didn't want to believe it, but it's true. So, so sad. :(
In my computer I see my comment as first, but maybe because I edited it!About your point 4, I forgot about Jon too! And it is odd he Bran doesn't remember what they talked about.
You know, abuot your point 18, I remember when Robb was still there, he made people look after his brother when they couldn't find him. It seems now they don't pay him a lot of attention, like you said.
About your point 25 *SPOILER FOR A DANCE WITH DRAGONS* (view spoiler)
1-Ser Rodrik is training men to fill the places of the one that left with Ned and Robb. And it's not a bad idea, since they are at war and it doesn't seem they have a lot of men in Winterfell.
2-Aw he still wants to be a knight! Bran thinks he and Hodor can be a knight together, it's so cute but so sad.
3-He reminds Maester Luwin about a blind knight, but the Maester replies it was just a story. And it could be, since it seems very hard to fight without seeing, but it could be true. I understand why the told Bran that, as well as to put his dreams aside because they'll break his heart. Which is also true, but bran always dreamt about being a knight, and he fell not too long ago, so I think deep inside he just wants to think someday he'll walk, even if he knows he won't.
4-Dreams are named very often, and at this point I really pay attention to them. Bran dreamt with the three eyed crow, it took him to the crypts, and he saw Ned (still sad and mad about it). He thought his father was sad about something to do with Jon, which is pretty interesting.
5-I wonder why Hodor doesn't want to go to the crypts. Maybe I am just overthinking and he is just scared of going down.
6-Something to take note of: "“In the dream I flew down with the crow, but I can’t do that when I’m awake,” Bran explained."
7-They removed Osha's chain, but she still has the iron shackles around her ankles, but it seems they are trusting her more. I really, really like Osha. She took Bran to the crypts, and Bran did not mind too much she was talking him in her arms. I think he liked her as well.
8-I really liked what Osha said when they were talking about the Kings of Winter: “Winter’s got no king. If you’d seen it, you’d know that, summer boy.” Very interesting and scary if you know what it means.
9-Interesting Summer didn't follow them to the crypts, and stayed in the stairs.
10-The feels when Bran told Osha Lyanna and Brandon should not have statues, but Ned loved them so much he had them made. Also, the story about the Kings and Lord of the North is very interesting. Most of them seemed like really interesting people, and I would like to know more about them.
11-So, Bran thinks Rhaegar carried Lyanna off and raped her. I wonder who told him that. For some reason I don't think it was Ned.
12-Bran mentioned he talked to his father in his tomb. I bet the conversation they had was not a very happy one, but Bran got to say farewell in a way.
13-Shaggydog came out of Ned's tomb (I would have screamed probably) and he attacked Maester Luwin. I am guessing it was because the direwolves and the kids have a connection, so Rickon wanted Maester Luwin to leave his father alone, and the direwolf attacked.
14-Rickon dreamt about Ned, a similar dream to Bran's i guess. And my heart just broke when he said: “You leave him. You leave him be. He’s coming home now, like he promised. He’s coming home.” Poor baby.
15-I am surprised at how calm Bran is, and how he took control of the situation. He tells his brother they can wait together for his father, so they go to Maester Luwin's tower, which looks like a mess and it kinda reminded me of my room, lol.
16-I wish the Maester would listen more to what Osha has to say. She says they are still Children of the Forest beyond the Wall, and sometimes dreams are only dreams, and sometimes not. I know Luwin thinks it's just a coincidence, but man you live in a world where weird shit happen, so maybe he should think about it a little more.
17-I really enjoyed rereading the story of the Children, the First Men and the Andals. I really like when we get this pieces of past history, since I like history a lot.
18-How the hell does Maester Luwin has obsidian with him? Also cool, lol. And there is Osha again, telling the Children of the Forest still use arrowheads of obsidian. I think the boys listen to her, even if Maester Luwin is telling them all the time it's just a story. For some reason the way she talked made me think she has met some of the Children. She says they are in the North, were she came from.
19-The wolves howled, and the bird arrived. How creepy. The hawk (not a raven) had dried blood in its wings. Interesting they didn't recive a raven, and the blood in the wings.
20-I liked how Osha treats the boys, and how she replied to Bran's question about what the letter said, it makes me think she believed his dream had a meaning. She wasn't unkindly when she answered. I think even if Bran knew his dream had meaning, he didn't want to believe it (of course), and wanted a confirmation, since all of this is new to him. So sad. Maester Luwin really appreciates the Starks, and he cried when he read the letter. Maybe know he thinks sometimes dreams are not just dreams.