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message 1: by Travis (new)

Travis (travishiltz) | 481 comments Mod
So, marvel has cut a deal with Netlix to produce four TV shows, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, Daredevil and Jessica Jones which will then culminate in them teaming up for a Defenders tv show.

Okay, technically none of these guys were members of the Defenders, not sure why they couldn't call it 'Marvel Knights ' or 'Heroes for Hire'
And I would have preferred Spider woman or Mockingbird rather then Jessica Jones get a TV show, but otherwise, this is pretty cool news and I'm looking forward to marvel creating a TV universe to rival their movie one.


message 2: by James (new)

James | 254 comments Mod
I thought the name strange too... but it is cool news otherwise


message 3: by Eddie (new)

Eddie | 4 comments Not to be to that guy... Luke Cage had an early adventure, DD joined in. Remember it is a non-team.


message 4: by Travis (new)

Travis (travishiltz) | 481 comments Mod
Eddie wrote: "Not to be to that guy... Luke Cage had an early adventure, DD joined in. Remember it is a non-team."

I knew a couple of them had guest starred in some Defenders stories, but never really thought of them as Defenders.
It's like if they called the TV show the Fantastic Four, because Luke served a brief stint on that team as well.

Plus, I'm old school, Luke and Fist are Heroes for Hire. I still have trouble thinking of them as Avengers.


message 5: by Travis (new)

Travis (travishiltz) | 481 comments Mod
Eddie wrote: "Not to be to that guy... Luke Cage had an early adventure, DD joined in. Remember it is a non-team."


Oh, I just noticed your avatar.
Good choice. Always liked that cover.


message 6: by James (new)

James | 254 comments Mod
Wouldn't Marvel Knights have made more sense?


message 7: by Eddie (new)

Eddie | 4 comments Marvel Knights, you are right that is best. But for TV show just Mavel nights, having most of thier adventures at night.

Thanks Travis, just to show how long I been a Batman fan, Batman comic I fell in love with. Reading and re-reading-tracing the figures- Had no idea the back stories were even reprints. For a while I just knew Manhunter was coming back next issue, just knew it.


message 8: by James (new)

James | 254 comments Mod
There is a fair amount of Daredevil news.. they have cast Matt, Foggy, Karen Page, Stick, Wilson Fisk, Leland Owsley, the "Night Nurse"... this show should be pretty good..


message 9: by Abigail (new)

Abigail   (abi_cook) | 230 comments yay


message 10: by Travis (new)

Travis (travishiltz) | 481 comments Mod
So, I haven't seen the Daredevil trailer, but the still photos has him wearing the same black outfit from the Hulk TV movie in the 70's.

Not thrilled to see no red suit, but really looking forward to all the verbal acrobatics as to why the black suit is really cool, realistic and not goofy like the one from the Hulk movie.
That should be fun.


message 11: by Abigail (new)

Abigail   (abi_cook) | 230 comments :(


message 12: by Travis (new)

Travis (travishiltz) | 481 comments Mod
So, anyone else watched Daredevil?

I've only seen the first episode, but I think they are off to a strong start.
Solid cast and writing, good use of DD's history and a couple easter eggs for the comic fans.

Very street level and dark, so some of the violence was hard to take. I don't think I'll be binge watching it, but think they are doing a good job.


message 13: by Abigail (new)

Abigail   (abi_cook) | 230 comments Not yet but my mum is downloading the comics first so I can read the comics then start to watch the show


message 14: by Travis (new)

Travis (travishiltz) | 481 comments Mod
Abigail wrote: "Not yet but my mum is downloading the comics first so I can read the comics then start to watch the show"

What DD comics are you getting?


message 15: by Abigail (new)

Abigail   (abi_cook) | 230 comments I think all


message 16: by Travis (new)

Travis (travishiltz) | 481 comments Mod
Abigail wrote: "I think all"

That should keep you out of trouble for awhile.


message 17: by Abigail (new)

Abigail   (abi_cook) | 230 comments Yeah but I need to start doing training for almost a mile run in June so I should go


message 18: by Abigail (new)

Abigail   (abi_cook) | 230 comments Did ten minutes and tired


message 19: by Travis (new)

Travis (travishiltz) | 481 comments Mod
So, second episode of DD is just as strong as the first. Such a good cast and really solid writing.
Brutally violent still, but if the other shows are half this good, I will be impressed.


message 20: by Abigail (new)

Abigail   (abi_cook) | 230 comments Cool


message 21: by Travis (new)

Travis (travishiltz) | 481 comments Mod
DD episode three: holy *&^% is this show good!
This is how you do street level grim and gritty.


message 22: by ♠ TABI⁷ ♠ (new)

♠ TABI⁷ ♠ (tabi_card) I'm VERY interested in this show once I saw the trailers in the theaters. Hearing how it is realistic about street level life only feeds my interest xD


message 23: by Travis (new)

Travis (travishiltz) | 481 comments Mod
Trailers are out for Luke Cage, Iron Fist and a teaser for the Defenders.
All of them look pretty cool.
Really looking forward to the Luke series.

I need to catch up on the marvel shows.


message 24: by Fluffyroundabout (new)

Fluffyroundabout Please please please reprint the iron fist omni


message 25: by Travis (new)

Travis (travishiltz) | 481 comments Mod
The new Iron Fist trailer was pretty good.
Bit too bloody for me and not loving the lack of costume and that beard, but the action scenes were very cool.

And is that White Tiger...?!!!?


message 26: by James (new)

James | 254 comments Mod
I think that it is Coleen Wing (is that her name?) not White Tiger


message 27: by Travis (new)

Travis (travishiltz) | 481 comments Mod
Don't crush my dreams, james.
Having White Tiger show up is the best chance this show has of getting me to overlook that beard and feeble perm Iron Fist is sporting.


message 28: by James (new)

James | 254 comments Mod
^ like


message 29: by Travis (new)

Travis (travishiltz) | 481 comments Mod
So, for my vacation I am going to attempt to plow through the Marvel shows, so I'll be ready for Defenders this summer.

Just about done with season one of Daredevil and while some of the slow pacing bugs me, everything else is rock solid.
This is how you do grim and gritty right.

The fight with the ninja was amazing!

Looking forward to the grand finale and then moving on to Jessica Jones.


message 30: by Travis (new)

Travis (travishiltz) | 481 comments Mod
Saw the Defenders trailer.
Lack of costumes bugs me, but otherwise great action scenes and I like the interaction.

Need to catch up on the solo series so I'll be ready for this.


message 31: by Abigail (new)

Abigail   (abi_cook) | 230 comments i had a debate with 2 people at college over the defenders members, they kept insisting that its the ones for the show on Netflix so i showed them the comics and they still argued saying i was wrong


message 32: by Travis (new)

Travis (travishiltz) | 481 comments Mod
Abigail wrote: "i had a debate with 2 people at college over the defenders members, they kept insisting that its the ones for the show on Netflix so i showed them the comics and they still argued saying i was wrong"

Well, Luke and Daredevil were members for short times and I think Iron Fist showed up in one issue.
Jessica was never a member though.

We are getting a Defenders comic this summer featuring the TV line up.


message 33: by Abigail (new)

Abigail   (abi_cook) | 230 comments Travis wrote: "Abigail wrote: "i had a debate with 2 people at college over the defenders members, they kept insisting that its the ones for the show on Netflix so i showed them the comics and they still argued s..."

i showed them the original comics since the people said they had always been the members


message 34: by Travis (new)

Travis (travishiltz) | 481 comments Mod
Abigail wrote: "Travis wrote: "Abigail wrote: "i had a debate with 2 people at college over the defenders members, they kept insisting that its the ones for the show on Netflix so i showed them the comics and they..."

Love the original Defenders line up.
Keep hoping, now that we have Hulk, Dr. Strange and supposedly Valerie in the new Thor movie that I will get my wish of a big screen version.


message 35: by Travis (new)

Travis (travishiltz) | 481 comments Mod
Marvel's FCBD offering was a split book that featured our first look at the new based on the TV show Defenders.
Not bad, nice art, very nice group shot and some interesting stuff happening.

Bit annoyed at Bendis that he made Jessica Jones into a damsel in the very first story.
That was lazy and has me worried it'll become a trend.


message 36: by Travis (new)

Travis (travishiltz) | 481 comments Mod
So, the Defenders comic staring the netflix line up is just not that good.
It has all the elements it should, but it all feels flat and just not very well written.
Shame as I was looking forward to this.


message 37: by Travis (new)

Travis (travishiltz) | 481 comments Mod
I think the main problem with the Jessica Jones TV show is that the least interesting character is Jessica Jones.

Everyone else in the cast is good or at least interesting.
Jessica just gets on my nerves.


message 38: by Travis (new)

Travis (travishiltz) | 481 comments Mod
Just started watching Luke Cage and if they can keep up this pace and tone, as well as the quality of writing, I will be a happy guy.

Lots of good casting and a ton of easter eggs in the first two episodes.
Good stuff.


message 39: by Travis (new)

Travis (travishiltz) | 481 comments Mod
Aside from the costume change, Luke Cage is on track to be one of the most faithful comic book adaptions.
So impressed with how they are handling things.

Though, they made of the old costume, but worked to keep 'Sweet Christmas!"...?


message 40: by Travis (new)

Travis (travishiltz) | 481 comments Mod
Like how the marvel shows are creating their own little mini-universe..
They reference the movies but can't do a ton, but have set up things that overlap between the shows.

Nicely done.


message 41: by Travis (new)

Travis (travishiltz) | 481 comments Mod
So, are the netflix marvel shows going away?

aside from Daredevil, nobody seems to be getting a season 3.
Are they going to be shifted to Disney's streaming site or are we saying good-bye to Luke, Danny etc...?

Be a shame to lose all that.


message 42: by Valerie (new)

Valerie | 4 comments So many of us were enjoying the shows, and they were doing quite well. Stinks if they're ditching them. Disney plus is talking about what-if worlds, including a Peggy Carter. Not the same. And Disney branding seems like it'll be lighter.


message 43: by Travis (new)

Travis (travishiltz) | 481 comments Mod
Unfortunately, with the switch in rights, disney has a moratorium of two years before then can use the netflix casts.
So, it doesn't look good.
Plus disney+ isn't allowing R-rated content.

And not sure how I feel about movie characters getting a TV show.
Why not just give them a movie?


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