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message 1: by Shari-amor, Doll Cake (new) - rated it 4 stars

Shari-amor | 5275 comments Alright lovely Menyons, this April Illusion (Chronicles of Nick, #5) by Sherrilyn Kenyon will be released. This will be the official thread for it and all chat will be held here. Please be respectful, polite and have fun. Use the spoiler tags if necessary.

Chat away! ^_^


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Shari-amor | 5275 comments Description

Be careful what you wish for…

You just might get it.

Nick Gautier is tired of his destiny. He doesn’t want to be the son of a demon who’s fated to end the world. Nor does he want to see another demon or other preternatural creature who wants to kill or enslave him. He just wants to be normal and have normal problems like everyone else.

But normality isn’t all it’s cracked up to be. When he gets sucked into an alternate reality where his mother has married his mentor and his Atlantean god best friend has become a human geek, he begins to understand that no life is free of pain, and that every person has a specific place in the universe… Even the son of a hated demon.

Most of all, he sees that his powers aren’t the curse he thought they were, and that the world needs a champion, especially one its enemies can’t imagine rising up to defend the ones he should destroy.

Old enemies and new friends square off for a major battle that will either restore Nick to his real world, or end him forever.(l


Ally | 325 comments Bought it, read it, loved it!! It wasn't really what I was expecting...personally I thought it was better!! Xev is mysterious and my new favourite, I am itching to find out more about him!!

Finally getting confirmation about Kody's parentage was interesting and sweet, plus sad but I'm sure her and Nick will stop the bad future :)

Alternate Nick is such a wimp!

Don't want to say more until other people have read it, which I'm sure won't take long I couldn't put it down. ;)


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Aj | 20 comments Got my copy earlier I've been waiting so long but I'll know it'll be great just like the others


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david (david_john_tenvoorde) | 49 comments thoughts about the malachi
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Danielle G (dfgreen) I love everything Sherrilyn Kenyon writes. This book was good but it felt so short to me. I finished it in three hours after getting it on my kindle as a pre order. It was well written. The story was entertaining. Nick was hilarious as always. I just felt a little let down. It felt like a novella or a teaser book. I hope the next book in the series is a little longer and has a bit more of a plot. This book does fill in a lot of gaps about Kody which was great and also introduced a new character Xev who has great potential. I think i would have called this book 4.5 and sold it as a novella rather than the next book in the series


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Aj | 20 comments Danielle wrote: "I love everything Sherrilyn Kenyon writes. This book was good but it felt so short to me. I finished it in three hours after getting it on my kindle as a pre order. It was well written. The story w..."

I totally agree with it was like giving a trailer for an upcoming movie spicy and short


Danielle G (dfgreen) Aj wrote: "Danielle wrote: "I love everything Sherrilyn Kenyon writes. This book was good but it felt so short to me. I finished it in three hours after getting it on my kindle as a pre order. It was well wri..."

That's a really good way to describe it!


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Aj | 20 comments Daoud wrote: "thoughts about the malachi

question does nick have the ability to become a Malachi/Sephiroth hybrid if he is able to accept the darkness in himself?
I ask this question because nick is said to be ..."

But if Jared dies we'll never figure out what with him and Jaden and i think there's definitely a juicy story there


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Ally | 325 comments Daoud wrote: "thoughts about the malachi

question does nick have the ability to become a Malachi/Sephiroth hybrid if he is able to accept the darkness in himself?
I ask this question because nick is said to be ..."


I dont think he can be both, it seems like you are born a malachai or sephirii. I hope Jared can find his peace somehow, as will Nick (i really hope)
I totally agree with Aj that the Jared and Jaden link is seriously intriguing! I want to know whats going on.....So many mysteries.

Now that you mention it this is a short book, but compared to Acheron or Styxx many books are. It would have been great for it to be longer.....Its hard to judge because so far they have all seemed like they were leading up to something, each book revealling more but then that seems to be the nature of the series. We already know about some of the future (although they are trying to change it) and SK has already said there will be 10 books, before Nicks DH book.....so in a way they could all end up feeling like filler books? Its a shame there is a year between them though..they certainly dont have the same impact and detail as each new DH book.

One thing that struck me is it does seem that Nick is getting a new ally at the end of each book, it certainly feels like its building up to something. First Z and now Xev...both loyal (to a degree) to Nick and fighting on his side? There has to be a big battle soon (hopefully before Nicks DH book!)

Although i suspect the confusion is only going to get worse as Nick changes more in his time. We know the DH stories so well and everything Nick does in CON effects those stories, lets hope he doesnt negate them entirely or some of the DH novels already published could become what 'could have' happened.

I went off on a bit of a ramble there ;)


Ray (warrior of randomness) XP | 1837 comments so are nekoda's parents Bathymaas and styxx?


message 13: by david (last edited Apr 03, 2014 10:32AM) (new) - rated it 3 stars

david (david_john_tenvoorde) | 49 comments isn't nekoda the goddess nyx


Rachel Smith (rlsauthor) | 626 comments I have my name on the hold list at the library. I'm fifth. Grr. The people in front of me better read it fast, but I'm thinking it'll be at least two weeks before I get it.


message 15: by Ora (new) - rated it 5 stars

Ora (oeamis) Just finished it. I loved it. One of favorite scenes of the book was with Adarian and Nick. I think the time he spent with Adarian helped him realize that he is different from the other Malachi and it is his choice how he is remembered. It wasn't the typical loving family moment, however Adarian did help Nick realize that he needed to embrace who is.


Ainoa (queenoferebor) | 21 comments I finished earlier today and I swear there was a moment I literally threw the book because of the levels of WTFs I was experiencing. My problem is that sometimes I forget about details of previous books and when they are mentioned in new ones I'm like "where did that come from?" but I seriously liked this book. SERIOUSLY.
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I still have doubts about Nekoda, because I feel that the love-romance thing with Nick is a bit forced,like Kenyon really wants us to like them together but I don't see the chemistry anywhere. plus, for the first half of the book I felt like I was reading Chronicles of Nekoda. Everything was about here, which is annoying. But she improved quite a lot by the end of the book. let's see what's in store for her.

P.D The "other" Acheron and Savitar... Wow.


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Ora (oeamis) I really don't think the relationship with Nick and Kody is forced. The impression I get is that Kody has inadvertantly change part of Nick's future, because I don't see Casey becoming his girlfriend like she did with Ambrose.

The one thing I really want to know is will Simi get her own story. I want to know who her husband is and when they meet.


Ray (warrior of randomness) XP | 1837 comments what do yall think of Brynna? do u think she has feelings for Nick?


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Aj | 20 comments Ray (warrior of randomness) XP wrote: "what do yall think of Brynna? do u think she has feelings for Nick?"

Yeah but not romantic. she seems to just be a really good friend


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Aj | 20 comments Ora wrote: "I really don't think the relationship with Nick and Kody is forced. The impression I get is that Kody has inadvertantly change part of Nick's future, because I don't see Casey becoming his girlfri..."

Simi's husband must be infinitely rich to take over the responsibility of buying her sparklies and coffin purses


Ray (warrior of randomness) XP | 1837 comments well she did say that the guy she is love with loves another. and she seems to be clingy to him


Cora C | 32 comments I think Nick and Nekoda won't stay together. The fact is if the future changes and Nick don't become the bad Ambrose, Nekoda will disappear. I prefer to think that the future Nekoda (not the one we have for the moment) will be with Caleb. And Nick with Artemis. They are both goods - or at least not really bad as Apollo for example who is really a bastard - even if some people don't think so. I want to see the both of them happy and together if possible.


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Ora (oeamis) I don't think Nick and Kody will end up together, however I would be shocked if Nick and Artemis do. In the DH series, he's paying the same price Ash paid for getting souls back. How can a loving relationship evolve when Artemis enjoys inflicting pain upon Nick.


Ainoa (queenoferebor) | 21 comments I wouldn't be so shocked, but it would certainly be a little bit strange, though interesting. The only thing know for sure is that I don't like Nick with Nekoda. I don't think her character has been developed the right way, and there were times in this book I was thinking. "MARY SUE". Maybe Nick's girl is someone we haven't met yet. Or maybe Nekoda will evolve into a proper character.


Ray (warrior of randomness) XP | 1837 comments unless she isn't hurting him...


Ray (warrior of randomness) XP | 1837 comments by she I meant Artemis


Ray (warrior of randomness) XP | 1837 comments I don't think Artemis and Nick will get together.


Ainoa (queenoferebor) | 21 comments It's Artemis, the hurting thing comes in the pack. Isn't she feeding from him like she did with Ash? I get a little bit lost sometimes, and with CON is even worse because there are multiple timelines xDDD. I'm still shocked with Ash and Artie together in the alternate world ahahahaha.


Ray (warrior of randomness) XP | 1837 comments I don't think Artemis could hurt Nick. Nick doesn't have the same control as Ash. I think if Artemis tries to hurt him he will hurt her


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Ora (oeamis) Yes she is feeding from Nick. It has been implied when Nick has gotten souls from her by his posture and pained expression when returning it to the DH. Why would Artemis change her MO. In the past she got excited off of beating Ash, why wouldn't she with Nick. Right now I believe Nick is dealing with the pain because he is helping those DHs who have found love.
I think Ambrose put Artemis in a cage because he got sick and tired of her behavior.


Ray (warrior of randomness) XP | 1837 comments no I would that torture would make him strongwr. I think the pain he is going through is the battle going on within himself. he is probably trying to reject the Malachi . it wouldn't be the first. it happened when he was just a baby. he would end up in the hospital cause his human body was trying to fight off the Malachi power


Ray (warrior of randomness) XP | 1837 comments I didn't say she wasn't feeding from him. ofcourse she would


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Ora (oeamis) Noa asked about Artemis feeding from Nick. I didn't mean to imply that you said that.


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Mauaqui | 42 comments Wow I better buy the book


Ainoa (queenoferebor) | 21 comments Maureen wrote: "Wow I better buy the book"

Definitely!! there are so many epic moments in it... I'm loving all the pop culture references.


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Simidemon Xiamara (SimiXiamara) | 1 comments The Simi was at a LIVE Google Chat with AG & the Simi asked bouts getting her own Chronicles of Simi book series & SK said that YES Simi would eventually get her own book but she had to figure out how to get her a mate that Akri Ash couldn't make go POOF!

Simi, DH Origins Familu

i>Ora wrote: "I really don't think the relationship with Nick and Kody is forced. The impression I get is that Kody has inadvertantly change part of Nick's future, because I don't see Casey becoming his girlfri..."

Ora wrote: "I really don't think the relationship with Nick and Kody is forced. The impression I get is that Kody has inadvertantly change part of Nick's future, because I don't see Casey becoming his girlfri..."


Ray (warrior of randomness) XP | 1837 comments do u think Ash knows about Simi kissing Nick?


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Ally | 325 comments Ash doesn't know Nick knows Simi in CON neither of them have told him....yet


Ray (warrior of randomness) XP | 1837 comments uh oh . can u say deja vu?


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Ally | 325 comments Yeah but Nick didn't have his powers first time round and I don't see him ever sleeping with Simi in CON, just being her friend (that kiss aside) so her purity is intact, for now. Although in my eyes she is still going to get curious and still going to sleep with someone, it just won't be Nick.
I'm thinking one of the new characters we are being introduced too, either that or it's really far in the future, a few centuries away.


Danielle G (dfgreen) or Xev! It has to be someone strong enough that Ash can't kill to easily haha.


Cora C | 32 comments I think a lot of you are wrong about Artemis. Her relationship with Nick is really not the same as with Ash. Nick don't sleep with her for the moment. Even when he obtained souls for DH. The only time where Nick was in the bed of Atermis...was because he was sink. Ash was the one to think it was for another reason. But not ! Artemis was only taking care of Nick. They have a special relationship and not a one as with Acheron.

About the future in Illusion. It was the one from Nekoda memories. If the future changes, and I think that will happens - SK is not writting the Chronicles for nothing -, Artemis won't be hurt.

I know a lot of you hate Artemis. But I don't for many reasons. If you have read the last books of DH and CON, you can understant she's not really bad. Apollo and Leto are really bad and she has been hurt by them for a long time... she's just sad and needs love.


Ainoa (queenoferebor) | 21 comments We'll have to agree to disagree in that one. Though I also think that there is more to Artemisa than what meets the eye, she is no saint, and her need for love doesn't excuse her. I'm very interested to see what her relationship with Nick it, but I don't think it's as sweet an innocent as you are picturing it. She is manipulative, and as far as "special relationships" go, look what happened with Ash. Also, she is using Nick! She is feeding from him, is that because she is "taking care of him"? i don't think so, but I'm sure that SK will surprise us in the future when she unravels Artemis' full story.


Danielle G (dfgreen) I agree with Noa. I think maybe in the future SK will reveal Artemis's full story and we will see she is a redeemable villain but at the moment I don't think she's good for Nick at all.


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Cora C | 32 comments Artemis and Apollo are cursed and it's why they need blood, and maybe from someone enough powerfull. That's what I understood. She's not an angel but she's not so bad.
SK herself said Artemis was not so bad. I trust her. Especially since Styxx.
Before, everybody hated Styxx and now we love him more than a lot of other characters... So, I'm sure when we'll have all the story, Artemis will be more liked by readers.
With Ash it wasn't the same at all. Ash have the curse of Epitymia that caused everyone wants him. I don't think Artemis ever really loved Ash. She maybe liked him, but not loved him.
Also, we don't have all the same way to love someone. SK says all the time to open our mind and that the wolrd is not black and white.


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Ora (oeamis) I get that you really like Artemis and because of that I think you willing to overlook her selfish and violant behavior. She still requires blood for the DHs souls. Ash even realized after the first time that she enjoyed inflicting pain. She is doing the same thing with Ambrose now. Regardless of how someone loves, violence is not a factor in any sense of a heathly relationship.
She has a lot of growing to do before I could start to like her. Just because she was willing to help in Styxx doesn't mean she will constintantly help and have a change of heart. For me, one the things she has to do is freely give back DHs souls back without a price.


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Mauaqui | 42 comments Artemis has done 3 things that she showed some compassion over 1) Tory's childbirth 2) nick' s illness 3) helping Styxx and Acheron in battle
I don't know if that is enough for her redemption, but it does show she is 30% good. Besides she adores her daughter and granddaughter


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Shari-amor | 5275 comments Ok, I haven't been in this thread because I haven't finished the book yet but I can see now where this discussion is going and I wanna throw out a warning right now before it gets out of hand. I dont mind y'all discussing things that connect with CON. Other characters and sideplots and whatnot BUT in too many threads have the age old is Artemis good, bad, redeemable been discussed. That will NOT happen in this one so wrap it up, please. This story is about Nick and his journey. Artemis is very much connected to that but I do not want a debate about her mortality happening here. Lets get back to the story at hand please. Thanks much y'all.


Cora C | 32 comments Ora, in Styxx book, Caleb tortured Styxx. Also, now we knom he tortured Xev too in the past. Do you hate Caleb and think is selfilsh and violent ?

Not only Caleb...Urian...Apollimy...and so many other "goods" - or not so goods - characters...
The core of the books of SK is :
- World isn't black and white
- You never have the whole story by one point of view

Ash isn't perfect, another exsmple. We saw that a lot of time. The best exemple with Styxx. We have mainly his point of view for the moment about Artemis.

"She's doing the same with Ambrose" ??? Can you give me the part where that it says ?

Shari, sorry, but in my opinion here is not only about Artemis but something deeper.


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