The Crow Crew discussion

Discuss the ending of Six of Crows here.

I don't think anyone does/will.

Lexie wrote: "I don't think anyone does/will."

No, I loved it! I love the guts that it took for Leigh to do that, boom, there goes our heart! And then, after that, the matter of who the rat was was dealt with, but it wasn't what you thought it was. So then, in the end, with conviction burning a hole in his heart, Kaz is going to get his girl.

AND THE MONEY!

:D

Oh I mean that of course people will hate that it happened. But you're right it's a great and gutsy end to the story. And what it leads up to is absolutely awesome! I love how Kaz becomes in the end as well, he is gonna get ferocious in the next one.

I was a bit annoyed that both of the girls were in trouble. They were independent and didn't need to be saved during the book, but I think in Crooked Kingdom they will have to be saved by the boys and I don't like that idea. I hope the girls can save themselves :)

Chelsea wrote: "I was a bit annoyed that both of the girls were in trouble. They were independent and didn't need to be saved during the book, but I think in Crooked Kingdom they will have to be saved by the boys ..."

Nina cannot be saved by anybody but her own desire to overcome addiction, and none of them would've made it out alive had she not made that incredible sacrifice.

It would also be comical if Kaz goes to save Inej and she's already broken out and he gets captured so she saves him. :D

That would be cool.

Chelsea wrote: "I was a bit annoyed that both of the girls were in trouble. They were independent and didn't need to be saved during the book, but I think in Crooked Kingdom they will have to be saved by the boys ..."

I totally agree. The only two people that are really in trouble at the end of the book, are the only two female characters. This bothered me so much. I also wrote about it in my review.

I love how Inej was captured! Have you ever noticed that the books you love the most are the ones that made you cry and scream at the book and crushed your heart into tiny little shards? All of my favourite books have made me frustrated at some point or another, but in a good way.

And as for the whole thing about the girls needing rescuing, I think that Inej and Nina are both very strong and independent women that can't do everything themselves all the time. No one can. It could have just as easily been Jesper or Wylan and they still would have needed rescuing. Inej was picked because she is Kaz's weak spot. And Nina is made an even stronger character by making the decision to take the drug to save her friends.

Amber wrote: "I love how Inej was captured! Have you ever noticed that the books you love the most are the ones that made you cry and scream at the book and crushed your heart into tiny little shards? All of my ..."

All true Amber, all true.

I definitely don't think that Nina should be seen as like a damsel in distress sort of thing. She made a huge and incredibly brave sacrifice by taking the drug, and she was willing to do with the consequences after. That makes her a very respectable and incredible character. I don't think she should be seen as a character who needs saving or is in trouble in that way. As for Inej, they only got her because she is Kaz's one vulnerability, and it will add and build on to the story and relationship between the two of them. Inej will probably be able to fend for herself, knowing she might be able to escape. It's not done to make Inej seem weak, it's done to put Kaz in a really difficult spot and for Van Eck to pin him. I just can't wait for them to be reunited!

I don't see the girls like they need to be saved. They were very independent and equal to the boys, it's refreshing to see that. But I'm worried they might need to be saved in the second book, because of the ending in this one and that's what worries me. It indeed easily could have been one of the boys, but it wasn't. I love the romance in the book, I love the characters but I have read so many YA books where it becomes the biggest part of the story and where the girls become damsels in distress, I guess I'm just worried. Those things can completely ruin a book for me. I'm so protective over these characters and I want them to stay away from those overused tropes, I hope Leigh will do that :) There's nothing wrong with needing help from others of course, but when you read it in every book, you start to wonder why girls are always the ones needing to be saved. I'm not saying that's the case here, I just want to protect this book from that :)

Remember when they were passing through the check points in the prison wagon on their way into the Ice Court and Kaz fainted? Inej woke him up and essentially saved him and she also saw a weak part of him that he did not want her to see. Every character has weaknesses and sometimes needs a rescue here and there but it makes me mad that people are telling me that Inej shouldn't need rescuing because she's a girl and a girl that needs rescuing is antifeminism? To me, situations like this help me to see how they really are only human. I don't want Inej to be that character that is insanely good at everything and she's unstoppable, no one can touch her because it's just so unrealistic. I believe that Inej being captured will further the story quite nicely. It adds an extra problem and more heartache for Kanej shippers. And I doubt Leigh meant for it to offend.

And the rescuing issue does get used a lot but if you do it right, it can be awesome and original in its own way. Authors shouldn't have to avoid that kind of situation now just because it was used badly in the past. I know Leigh will make it her own.

If I came off as disrespectful in this spiel then I apologize. I'm a very opinionated person. :)

Amber I agree 100%! Couldn't of said it better.

Luke wrote: "Lexie wrote: "I don't think anyone does/will."

No, I loved it! I love the guts that it took for Leigh to do that, boom, there goes our heart! And then, after that, the matter of who the rat was wa..."

Exactly!! I mean, yes, it broke my heart cause Inej, but at the because of that, Kaz is super determined to get her (and the money, of course) back. And I think that that's also a big leap for Kaz's character too, to 1)make a deal with Pekka Rollins (who he robs of course, but still he hates the guy) and to 2)literally declare war on Van Eck and let's be real, he wants his money sure, but Inej? I'd be wiling to put money on him wanting Inej more tbh. And that's an obvious lead for the second book, sort of Ranger's Apprentice-y to me.

Amber wrote: "Remember when they were passing through the check points in the prison wagon on their way into the Ice Court and Kaz fainted? Inej woke him up and essentially saved him and she also saw a weak part..."

And I definitely agree 100% with this too. Sure, the damsel in distress thing isn't always what we want to see, but it's not like either Inej OR Nina was ever really completely helpless. And especially, with Kaz fainting that time and Inej being the one to pull him back, like Amber mentioned, it's not like the girls are the only one's who needed help or rescuing. And Inej is definitely Kaz's weak spot, which is why she was taken. I loved the ending a lot.

So agree Priscilla!

I can't wait for Crooked Kingdom!!!

I both loved/hated inej being taken away. I loved it because it would mean that Kaz would go after her and probably make his feelings known more clearly, but hated it because it made their triumph (in a way) short lived. It wasn't one of the most original cliff hangers, but I still found myself smiling, and wooting, when kazz stole Pekka Rollins' things. *sigh*

Kaz is amazing!

He so is.