Obsessed with True Crime discussion

Copied from Shelfari: koren56
A problem I had with getting the authors announced was that sometimes it would take one to two weeks for a member to respond to me that they wanted to choose the author of the month. Now that everyone has had a chance and no one else has told me they would like to choose, I will post the next months schedules. Be thinking about what you want to do. I would like everyone to choose an author thinking about what you could use for a discussion topic, for instance, this month is male versus female authors and try to lead a discussion on your topic. It will be up to the person choosing the topic to lead the discussion. Deal? I will post this in a separate discussion so it is more visable to everyone.
January: Eileen
February: A.R.
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March: --continuing February AotM
April: Zippy
May: K.A.
June: Rita
July: Bel
August: Koren

If there are others who would like to pick authors of the month, please let me know by posting in this thread. As you can see, we don't have people for Sept, Oct, Nov and December. I can start the list over, or we can do something different.

Anyone on the list who cannot participate please let me know. Craig was on this list but since no one has heard from him in a while I took his name off. Worked out well since we extended Feb to March because of Shelfari .... well you know.

Authors we have already had:
2015
April- Jack Olsen
May- Clifford Linedecker
June- Caitlin Rother
July- Lee Butcher, Diane Fanning
August- Ann Rule, Robert Lindsay
Sept- M. William Phelps
Oct.- Phillip Carlo
Nov.- Joseph Wambaugh, Kevin Flynn, Peter Maas
Dec.- Stella Sands, Michael Fleeman

2016
Jan.-Lowell Caullfiel, Tom Henderson
Feb/Mar- Susan Mustafa, Burl Barer
April- Kathryn Casey
May- Harry N MacLean
June - John Glatt
July - Gregg Olsen
August - John E. Douglas
September - Vincent Bugliosi

Are we starting over now? Who is the Sept. picker? Eileen?

I was going to see if anyone new wanted to pick an author. I also had an idea of something different to do. Take a break from Author of the Month.

I'll be posting a poll tonight when I get home.

How about Kimberli Bindschatel. She is a very interesting lady not a lot of people are familiar with.

Sue wrote: "How about Kimberli Bindschatel. She is a very interesting lady not a lot of people are familiar with."

I don't think she writes true crime.

Nope, the stories are fiction but the crimes being committed are going on today. I guess I got ahead of myself.

Sue wrote: "Nope, the stories are fiction but the crimes being committed are going on today. I guess I got ahead of myself."

I'm confused. Is she writing fictionalized accounts of true crimes?

True in the sense that animal trafficking, catching and killing animals to cut off/out one part to sell (gallbladder, rhino horns, shark fins etc.) and catching and selling endangered species take place everyday. Her protagonist is a fiesta wildlife agent named Poppy McVie that goes after these disgusting people. Poppy is fictionalized; the crimes are happening.

Ah, I get it, thanks.

It's funny, though, when I think of True Crime, I think of murder and murder of people. Others would think of the mob and still others of bank robbers. But crime against animals is 'truly' a crime as well. :(

So, it's funny because I just realized how narrow my True Crime tends to be.

I think we will have another challenge for December. Then for January Eileen aka FISHFACE, can pick an author and villain of the month.

Actually Jan and Feb. I'll explain my reasoning when I can get to a computer.

Shelley wrote: "It's funny, though, when I think of True Crime, I think of murder and murder of people. Others would think of the mob and still others of bank robbers. But crime against animals is 'truly' a crime ..."

Well, the genre as a whole tends to stick to rape-murders and intrafamilial homicide type of stuff. Not that there aren't stories written about flimflam artists and bank robbers, but somehow they get excluded from the true crime genre; they call those history and biography. I really think that's why they always call Manson a serial killer, so he can be the king of crime. Calling him what he is, a terrorist, just isn't the same, somehow, but we can include him if we call him a serial killer.

Are we doing 'family disfunction' for March?

I am always interested in familial dysfunction. Isn't it what makes the world go 'round?

Uh sort of ;)

Changed the title of the discussion, we will still have authors of the month, when that happens the Author will be the challenge. Also I will use the schedule listed, so we could have an Author of the month for April if Zippy wants to pick one. If not, K.A. could pick an author for May.

Hari wrote: "I am always interested in familial dysfunction. Isn't it what makes the world go 'round?"

It sure makes some true crimes happen!

The moderator asked me to ask for suggestions for April's challenge of the month. Zippy is on the schedule but since she hasn't posted here in a while the moderator wants to do another challenge.

Well, let's see...associations with April. Murders in shower stalls? Nahh...

The Girl in Alfred Hitchcock's Shower
Body Double
Picture Perfect: The Jodi Arias Story

There are more of these than I thought!

it's reaching but bathroom makes me think Behind the Door: The Oscar Pistorius and Reeva Steenkamp Story

Hasn't there been a lot of bathtub murders too? (where the body is found in the bathtub either killed there or left there)

Shelley wrote: "Hasn't there been a lot of bathtub murders too? (where the body is found in the bathtub either killed there or left there)"

There seem to be a lot on Forensic Files, but IDK how you would search for books on the subject.

The Manson Family members who killed the LaBiancas took showers after they killed the couple. I wonder if that would count. And what about murders during a rain shower? A baby shower? A bridal shower?

This: http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-ke...
(I doubt there's a book on it)
This: http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/l...
(same problem -- no book)
And it's too soon for a book on the Golden Showers affair, I assume:
https://www.aol.com/article/news/2017...
Leave it to the NY Post to find us a baby-shower angle to a mass murder: http://nypost.com/2015/12/03/muslim-n...

LOL I thought of the "Golden Shower" incident too! :)

There are these bathtub ones:

The Magnificent Spilsbury and the case of the Brides in the Bath
Lots of books on John George Haigh, Acid Bath Murders
Drew Peterson
Andrea Yates

It's a hard thing to search on to find books though.

Shelley wrote: "Hasn't there been a lot of bathtub murders too? (where the body is found in the bathtub either killed there or left there)"

Murdered and/or chopped up in the tub:
Stolen Away: The True Story of California's Most Shocking Kidnap-Murder
Jean Paul Marat a Study in Radicalism
The Class Project: How To Kill a Mother: The True Story of Canada's Infamous Bathtub Girls
The Magnificent Spilsbury and the case of the Brides in the Bath (this was before showers were in common use)
Are You There Alone?: The Unspeakable Crime of Andrea Yates

A real irony here is that Ed Gein -- the model for Norman Bates who committed the most famous shower murder of them all -- not only never killed anyone in a shower stall, but clearly was not a regular user of his own shower. OK, I'm just being silly I guess.

Clearly -- and as usual -- Shelley and I are thinking along similar lines, but I have to take issue with the Acid Bath murders. Johnny Haigh shot his victims and then stuffed them into a barrel which he filled with hydrochloric acid to melt them down.

I didn't know Drew Peterson killed anyone in the shower! I keep not getting around to reading about that guy.

Silly is good. :)

Drew Peterson's wife was found in the tub.

I haven't read about the Acid Bath Murders. I assumed it was a bathtub.

Wasn't the actress who was the body double/stand-in for the famous Psycho shower scene murdered in real life?

EDIT: Note to self - Yes, she was murdered and Fishface has already listed the book about the case. :)

I count 27 books on the Jodi Arias shelf. We could just all pick one and read that, although honestly, that maybe would have fit better under the Deadly Love challenge.

Shelley wrote: "Wasn't the actress who was the body double/stand-in for the famous Psycho shower scene murdered in real life?

EDIT: Note to self - Yes, she was murdered and Fishface has already listed the book ab..."

Because I'm read the book, (and I am a stickler for details) body double and stand-in are two different things. The actress who was the body double was not murdered, the stand-in was.

We have six days to make a decision and y'all are NOT helping!

Lady♥Belleza★✰ wrote: "
Because I'm read the book, (and I am a stickler for details) body double and stand-in are two different things. The actress who was the body double was not murdered, the stand-in was. "

Aaand that spoiled the ending of one of those books.

What about murders (or true crime) involving movie/tv stars? I just ran into a book called The Valentino Affair: The Jazz Age Murder Scandal That Shocked New York Society and Gripped the World and it hit me that there must be a lot of books on similar crimes.

Shelley wrote: "What about murders (or true crime) involving movie/tv stars? I just ran into a book called [book:The Valentino Affair: The Jazz Age Murder Scandal That Shocked New York Society and Gripped the Worl..."

I like that idea.

After looking a bit, i think it would have to any celebrity connected to a crime to provide enough to pick from.

Or you can just choose from the 150+ books already posted on the TC shelf, "Crimes Among The Rich And Famous:"

https://www.goodreads.com/group/books...

Fishface wrote: "Lady♥Belleza★✰ wrote: "
Because I'm read the book, (and I am a stickler for details) body double and stand-in are two different things. The actress who was the body double was not murdered, the sta..."

Ain't I a stinker?

Cant wait to hear what the May Challenge is.

Koren wrote: "Cant wait to hear what the May Challenge is."

Sorry! I've been on vacation for the past week. I'll get online tonight I have a GREAT CHALLENGE!