Hobb-A-Long Read-A-Long discussion

Finally we see what happened to Ronica and Rache, I had strong suspicions of Rache at the beginning of the trilogy since she was a "gift" from Davad, but after that I'm sure shes 100% with Ronica. The only major death I can think of was Davad,

This has turned into a clusterf* of politics and people fighting, new traders, Jamalia, Bingtown and Rain Wilders.

I'm really hoping to see the role that the dragon and she who remembers are going to play in this book, and the clash between Vivacia and Paragon, I've been waiting for this since the start of the second book.

I think that the reason why there must be a family member on board is that the ship gets imprinted with the memories of the captains and the personality gravitates to love family members just like the captains that died on the decks, even is she likes Kennit she can't be more connected to him than Wintrow, since she shares more memories and blood with the Vestrids.

I've come to the conclusion that dragons are A holes, Jani was right, they are widely unpredictable and have no regards for any species even if humans saved her life.

Brashen said exactly what I was thinking, they don't need to do much to pretend to be pirates, they don't need to attack anyone, but somehow I have a feeling that Kennit will see trough their pretending right away but he will pretend otherwise and he will have them in his claws, I think finally Wintrow will have a change of heart and stick up for his aunt, but well see what happens.

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The speculation on Amber is getting to a climax soon we will know what she's all about and who she really is. They describe her again as to have papery and taut skin of weird color then she says "I suffer a malady from time to time, fever and weariness". We already read the Farseer trilogy, we know why this sounds suspicious... sneaky Hobb.

turns out to be powerhungry.

The start of this book seems to be along the lines of "who has to deal with the worst idiots" anyway.

I still enjoyed the beginning of this book a lot and it was really easy for me to get into the story again (even though I wish the would just make all the chapters about what is happening on the Paragon ;P)

* forgot the beginning ;P

I am starting to hate Robin Hobb for making me believe a character is awesome oly to them show us that he/she is actually a horrible scheming mean bastard. First Kennit, who maybe didn't have a white jacket but at least had his piratey charm which now is non-existend, and now Serilla ...

Sarah wrote: "turns out to be powerhungry.

The start of this book seems to be along the lines of "who has to deal with the worst idiots" anyway.

I still enjoyed the beginning of this book a lot and it was real..."


That's the thing about these flamboyant, dashing fictional pirates, Sarah! In a relatively short book like Treasure Island, the author can skim the surface of that pirate's personality and make them seem merely colorful and entertaining. But when you have 2400 pages to fill it's impossible to avoid the harsh truth that they are cutthroat, ruthless sociopaths who use people as only tools to their own visceral needs( you might want to consider tearing out Chapter 26 from your book now before you read how bad it can get)!

The one thing I will say for Serilla is given how badly she has been brutalized and dehumanized by her "superiors", she feels all alone in the world and thinks building a wall of political power around herself will insulate her from those that would abuse her. She doesn't know who to trust, and even sees harmless and potential allies like Ronica as potential threats.

And, of course, the answer to " who has to deal with the worst idiots" is poor Malta, who couldn't have a more obnoxious sailing companion!

John wrote: "Sarah wrote: "turns out to be powerhungry.

The start of this book seems to be along the lines of "who has to deal with the worst idiots" anyway.

I still enjoyed the beginning of this book a lot a..."

Still don't know why Malta didn't push that Satrap mofo overboard LOL!

John wrote: "Sarah wrote: "turns out to be powerhungry.

The start of this book seems to be along the lines of "who has to deal with the worst idiots" anyway.

I still enjoyed the beginning of this book a lot a..."

It's not that I mind that we have a "real" pirate in this book who only cares for himself. It was very clear from the beginning that Kennit pretty much only cares for himself and his goals and won't stop at anything to achieve them. At the same time, while of course he wasn't set up as a hero, he still had some likeable qualities that just vanished some time in the second book. Of course he still showed those qualaties to Wintrow and Etta but in the first book I also really enjoyed his POV parts and I don't anymore. If he had been set up as a villain I would really have enjoyed his character as it was at the end, but he wasn't and that's what's bothering me. He also wasn't a "good" enough guy that his turn into a villain came as a surprise twist. So my problem wit him isn't exactly his characteristics but just the way he changed.

I don't think the Dragon has done anything A-holey yet. I mean she has suffered a lot at the hands of humans and despite her need to go and try to rescue her kind she still rescued Reyn and Seldon. After that humans still wanted more from her. She was understandably peeved especially as Reyn said her name in front of everyone.
Serilla has really surprised me. I felt sorry for her with the Satrap and was hoping she would make it to Bingtown. But the Bingtown she has studies and loved she is destroying. It's not going to be the Bingtown of her dreams where she can grow old. She is the one that seems to have lost her marbles not Ronica.
I guess the Dragon in Vivacia is slightly less friendly but I guess they see themselves as so much better than humans to be killed or trapped by one is embarrassing.

Amy wrote: "I don't think the Dragon has done anything A-holey yet. I mean she has suffered a lot at the hands of humans and despite her need to go and try to rescue her kind she still rescued Reyn and Seldon...."

You know Amy, I think you're right. Tintaglia has more or less done due diligence to the humans at this point, as she repaid Reyn for helping to free her by rescuing him and Selden; and pointed out to Reyn where to find Malta and the Satrap; it was just the author's prerogative to not so quickly have Malta rescued this early in the book( and frankly, Tintaglia has a moral gripe with the Khupris's family because they have been wantonly harvesting these dragon cocoons for years and made liveships out of the mutilated dragon infused wizardwood; so Tintaglia might have felt more entitled to revenge, and not been as cooperative as she actually was).