2-3-4 Challenge Book Discussions #1 discussion

Newgate prison



Gentleman Jackson's Boxing Salon- where Sebastian tracked down Matt Tyson


Seven Dials


Map of Seven Dials location


Covent Garden on Market Days-close up and aerial view

I had a much dire image of Newgate! But, Seven Dials is much grimmer.

Thank you, Veronica! I look forward to these.

I tried to find a picture of the interior of Newgate but couldn't find one. I'm sure it was awful.

I knew Seven Dials was horrid, but I am surprised with the exterior of Newgate. If one was wealthy, the necessary comforts could be brought in (with bribes), but the poor were wretched.

Okay, so after switching my search terms, I was able to locate some interior pictures/renderings of what the interior of Newgate looked like.

First a blueprint of the prison (one floor at least), which shows that men and women prisoners were separated, though perhaps all lumped together in the debtors section??


A collage of interior prints - I imagine the picture in the top, upper right corner might be the hall to the condemned cells


The real life hall


Perhaps a cell for the rich, where they could bring in their own stuff from home


Cell for the poor


The Exercise Yard

Thanks again for these!

Yes, I love them Veronica. Keep them coming:)

Thanks for sharing the pictures Veronica. They are fascinating.

Thanks for the extra views, Veronica! They make a huge difference.

That exercise yard is an oxymoron:) Also, I can't imagine the women being mixed in with men in the debtors section. Perhaps there's no section for women because they weren't able to procure debt.

Great pictures, Veronica. Thanks.

Jonetta wrote: "That exercise yard is an oxymoron:) Also, I can't imagine the women being mixed in with men in the debtors section. Perhaps there's no section for women because they weren't able to procure debt. ."

Actually, men and women were in the debtors section together. Often, debtors could even bring their families in to the prison with them. Charles Dicken's Little Dorrit has quite vivid descriptions.

How distressing.

I keep meaning to watch Little Dorrit!

Veronica wrote: "I keep meaning to watch Little Dorrit!"

I loved the BBC mini-series with Matthew McFadyen

Yes, that's the one. My mother has all sorts of period drama dvds. I need to ask her if she has this one.