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message 1: by Koren (new)

Koren  (koren56) | 4044 comments Mod
Hopefully this will be a short discussion this year. I think 2016 must have set some kind of record for number of deaths by well-known people. I saw a list that had 190 names on it. Some were more obscure but someone apparently knows them.


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Selina (literatelibrarian) | 3104 comments Well, I suppose we can expect more biographies of them...?
Must admit I don't really know all those people.


message 3: by Fishface (new)

Fishface | 2032 comments I guess it's not over yet. At this morning's team meeting, my boss announced to a co-worker that the dad of a client they both worked with was just killed by a drunk driver, so they're going to the viewing; another co-worker walked in a day early after her vacation, saying she has to miss work tomorrow because a (much younger) relative just died and she needs to attend the funeral. The supervisor also lost an old friend and a cat just before the turn of the year.


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Selina (literatelibrarian) | 3104 comments I don't know if this is inappropriate, but this thread does remind me of this book ...The Darwin Awards: Evolution in Action
it is a list of people that died through their own actions. Darwin because its 'survival of the fittest'. I don't necessarily agree with Darwin though, sometimes the people that survive are no better than the ones that died.


message 5: by Fishface (last edited Jan 03, 2017 12:00PM) (new)

Fishface | 2032 comments Selina wrote: "I don't know if this is inappropriate, but this thread does remind me of this book ...The Darwin Awards: Evolution in Action...I don't necessarily agree with Darwin though, sometimes the people that survive are no better than the ones that died. "

I think the take-home message of that book series, to some extent, is that who lives through the day and who dies can be pretty random. Certainly there are all kinds of idiots doing dumb stuff who get away with it for years. It's the downside of our intelligence; we've learned to make it feel safe to be stupid, with our seatbelts, helmets, Narcan injections and CPR.


message 6: by Koren (last edited Jan 14, 2017 12:28PM) (new)

Koren  (koren56) | 4044 comments Mod
Author William Peter Blatty, author of The Exorcist. Age 89, died from mutltiple myeloma.


message 7: by Fishface (last edited Jan 14, 2017 01:05PM) (new)

Fishface | 2032 comments Koren wrote: "Author William Peter Blatty, author of The Exorcist. Age 89, died from mutltiple myeloma."

Hard to believe he could ever die! And this comes just months after we lost Frank De Felitta!




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Selina (literatelibrarian) | 3104 comments Fishface wrote: "Selina wrote: "I don't know if this is inappropriate, but this thread does remind me of this book ...The Darwin Awards: Evolution in Action...I don't necessarily agree with Darwin thou..."

Well nobody gets out of this world alive...we all have to die! Some just seem to do it in a more spectacular way than others.


message 9: by Fishface (new)

Fishface | 2032 comments That's true! Sometimes it's "go big AND go home..."


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Selina (literatelibrarian) | 3104 comments The Princess Diarist is still on my TBR list. I was thinking on Carrie Fisher the other day.

She did say something about if she went, she wanted it to be known she was strangled by her bra in space.

Ironically she was in mid-air when she had a cardiac arrest. I don't know if it was from a too-tight bra though. I heard she had a coke problem (coca-cola, not cocaine). She said she was sipping up to 16 cans a day. That's a lot of sugar.

I have heard of people dying from drinking too much coca-cola.


message 11: by Koren (new)

Koren  (koren56) | 4044 comments Mod
Selina wrote: "The Princess Diarist is still on my TBR list. I was thinking on Carrie Fisher the other day.

She did say something about if she went, she wanted it to be known she was strangled b..."


Well, they said she died from a heart attack, but too much caffeine can effect the heart.


message 12: by Fishface (new)

Fishface | 2032 comments Now, could she have been sipping DIET Coke? Because that's a lot of aspartame.


message 13: by Koren (new)

Koren  (koren56) | 4044 comments Mod
Fishface wrote: "Now, could she have been sipping DIET Coke? Because that's a lot of aspartame."

Aspertame poisoning is a thing. Don't know if it effects the heart.


message 14: by Julie (new)

Julie (julielill) | 1684 comments Gene Cernan
1934-2017
Last man on the moon

http://hosted2.ap.org/APDEFAULT/Obitu...


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Julie (julielill) | 1684 comments Tommy Allsup
1931-2017
Guitarist who lost the coin toss that kept him off the Buddy Holly plane that crashed
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/13/ar...


message 16: by Fishface (new)

Fishface | 2032 comments Julie wrote: "Tommy Allsup
1931-2017
Guitarist who lost the coin toss that kept him off the Buddy Holly plane that crashed
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/13/ar......"


Man, he dodged that bullet for a long time!


message 17: by Koren (new)

Koren  (koren56) | 4044 comments Mod
Julie wrote: "Tommy Allsup
1931-2017
Guitarist who lost the coin toss that kept him off the Buddy Holly plane that crashed
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/13/ar......"


I also know that Waylon Jennings gave up his seat to someone, I think it was Buddy Holly. Were there two people that gave up seats that night?


message 18: by Koren (last edited Jan 18, 2017 08:21AM) (new)

Koren  (koren56) | 4044 comments Mod
Koren wrote: "Julie wrote: "Tommy Allsup
1931-2017
Guitarist who lost the coin toss that kept him off the Buddy Holly plane that crashed
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/13/ar...-..."


OK, I will answer my own question (thank you Google). There were 2 people that night that gave up their seats.
Tommy Allsup gave up his seat to Richie Valens, Waylon Jennings gave up his seat to the Big Bopper.


message 19: by Lady ♥ Belleza (new)

Lady ♥ Belleza (bella_foxx) | 222 comments So here's a coincidence, this weekend my niece was here. When we weren't out shopping (so she could take advantage of auntie's generous nature and credit card) we were in my apartment knitting and watching "Curious and Unusual Deaths", kind of reminded me of this thread.


message 20: by Koren (new)

Koren  (koren56) | 4044 comments Mod
Lady♥Belleza★✰ wrote: "So here's a coincidence, this weekend my niece was here. When we weren't out shopping (so she could take advantage of auntie's generous nature and credit card) we were in my apartment knitting and ..."

LOL. Glad you were thinking of us.


message 21: by Julie (last edited Jan 18, 2017 09:09AM) (new)

Julie (julielill) | 1684 comments Koren wrote: "Koren wrote: "Julie wrote: "Tommy Allsup
1931-2017
Guitarist who lost the coin toss that kept him off the Buddy Holly plane that crashed
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/13/ar......"


Yes, those two guys lucked out and did not get on that flight.


message 22: by Fishface (last edited Jan 31, 2017 04:08PM) (new)

Fishface | 2032 comments Koren wrote: "Julie wrote: "Tommy Allsup
1931-2017
Guitarist who lost the coin toss that kept him off the Buddy Holly plane that crashed
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/13/ar...-..."


I believe there were two, yes, but it was Buddy Holly who chartered the plane so he was the first to have a seat. IIRC, Waylon Jennings gave his seat to the Big Bopper because he had a bad cold and could not withstand any more time on the band's unheated bus.


message 23: by Julie (new)

Julie (julielill) | 1684 comments Miguel Ferrer
1955-2017
Actor
http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/01/20...


message 24: by Koren (new)

Koren  (koren56) | 4044 comments Mod
Julie wrote: "Miguel Ferrer
1955-2017
Actor
http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/01/20..."


Best known for Crossing Jorden, Iron Man 3, and Robocop. I did not know his father was Jose Ferrer, a well-known actor in the 50's, 60's, and 70's, and his mother was Rosemary Clooney, which makes him George Clooney's cousin.


message 25: by Fishface (new)

Fishface | 2032 comments NOOOOO, not Miguel Ferrer! A friend of mine went to high school with him...


message 26: by Koren (new)

Koren  (koren56) | 4044 comments Mod
Fishface wrote: "NOOOOO, not Miguel Ferrer! A friend of mine went to high school with him..."

Sorry.


message 27: by Lady ♥ Belleza (last edited Jan 23, 2017 12:46PM) (new)

Lady ♥ Belleza (bella_foxx) | 222 comments Royals' Yordano Ventura and Ex-MLB's Andy Marte Dead http://dlvr.it/NBDGgG

Kansas City Royals' World Series champion and ace pitcher Yordano Ventura and former MLB third baseman Andy Marte were killed in two separate car accidents in the Dominican Republic on Sunday. Ventura was 25 years old; Marte was 33.


message 28: by Koren (new)

Koren  (koren56) | 4044 comments Mod
A beloved 70's icon- Mary Tyler Moore has died at the age of 80.


message 29: by Julie (last edited Jan 26, 2017 12:47PM) (new)

Julie (julielill) | 1684 comments Koren wrote: "A beloved 70's icon- Mary Tyler Moore has died at the age of 80."

For a great read- checkout Mary and Lou and Rhoda and Ted And All the Brilliant Minds Who Made The Mary Tyler Moore Show a Classic by Jennifer Keishin Armstrong
Mary and Lou and Rhoda and Ted: And All the Brilliant Minds Who Made The Mary Tyler Moore Show a Classic by
Jennifer Keishin Armstrong It is a fascinating read.


message 30: by Koren (new)

Koren  (koren56) | 4044 comments Mod
It seems that simply turning the calendar page has not stopped the rash of celebrity deaths. The latest is Mike Conners, star of the 70's show Mannix. He was 91.


message 31: by Julie (new)

Julie (julielill) | 1684 comments Koren wrote: "It seems that simply turning the calendar page has not stopped the rash of celebrity deaths. The latest is Mike Conners, star of the 70's show Mannix. He was 91."

I used to watch that show.


message 32: by Koren (new)

Koren  (koren56) | 4044 comments Mod
And another. Barbara Hale, who played Della Street in the old Perry Mason shows also died yesterday. She was 94.


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message 34: by Pamela (new)

Pamela (goodreadscompamela_sampson) | 25 comments Rest in peace, MTM. We are losing so many wonderful icons.


message 35: by Pamela (new)

Pamela (goodreadscompamela_sampson) | 25 comments While I'm at it, RIP Robert Vaughn.


message 36: by Julie (new)

Julie (julielill) | 1684 comments Is it just me but doesn't it seem like a lot of famous actors have died these last couple of months?


message 37: by Koren (new)

Koren  (koren56) | 4044 comments Mod
Julie wrote: "Is it just me but doesn't it seem like a lot of famous actors have died these last couple of months?"

Yes, there have been a lot even in the last year. I know some of the people we have lost were fairly young, but I think a lot of our icons are getting up there in years. After all, how hard is it to believe that Mary Tyler Moore was 80!! So most of the icons from my growing up and young adult years are getting up there.


message 38: by Koren (new)

Koren  (koren56) | 4044 comments Mod
John Hurt.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000457/?r...

I'm not very familiar with this guy, but looking at his accomplishments, he did a lot of stuff.


message 39: by Julie (last edited Jan 31, 2017 01:24PM) (new)

Julie (julielill) | 1684 comments Masaya Nakamura
1925-2017
Father of Pac-Man
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/30/bu...

Brunhilde Pomsel
1911-2017
Secretary to Joseph Goebbels
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-n...


message 40: by Fishface (last edited Jan 31, 2017 04:28PM) (new)

Fishface | 2032 comments Koren wrote: "John Hurt.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000457/?r...

I'm not very familiar with this guy, but looking at his accomplishments, he did a lot of stuff."


He played the first guy to succumb to the xenomorph in the first ALIEN movie. In space, no one can hear your sternum crack.




message 41: by Julie (new)

Julie (julielill) | 1684 comments Fishface wrote: "Koren wrote: "John Hurt.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000457/?r...

I'm not very familiar with this guy, but looking at his accomplishments, he did a lot of stuff."

He played the first gu..."

What a great movie and he was a great actor!


message 42: by Koren (new)

Koren  (koren56) | 4044 comments Mod
There is a statue in Minneapolis, Minnesota honoring Mary Tyler Moore. Just a few days after Mary's death the woman who created the statue, Gwendolyn Gillen from Wisconsin, has passed away. She was 76.


message 43: by Lady ♥ Belleza (new)

Lady ♥ Belleza (bella_foxx) | 222 comments Public education in the USA .


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Fishface | 2032 comments Lady♥Belleza★✰ wrote: "Public education in the USA ."



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Lady ♥ Belleza (bella_foxx) | 222 comments Fishface wrote: "Lady♥Belleza★✰ wrote: "Public education in the USA ."
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Nice gif. Appropriate.


message 46: by Koren (new)

Koren  (koren56) | 4044 comments Mod
Lady♥Belleza★✰ wrote: "Fishface wrote: "Lady♥Belleza★✰ wrote: "Public education in the USA ."
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Nice gif. Appropriate."


I cant believe she got approved. But then again...you cant believe anything anymore.


message 47: by Julie (new)

Julie (julielill) | 1684 comments Koren wrote: "Lady♥Belleza★✰ wrote: "Fishface wrote: "Lady♥Belleza★✰ wrote: "Public education in the USA ."
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Nice gif. Appropriate."

I cant believe she got approved. But then again...you cant believe anything..."


She gave $200 million to the Republican Party.


message 48: by Koren (new)

Koren  (koren56) | 4044 comments Mod
Julie wrote: "Koren wrote: "Lady♥Belleza★✰ wrote: "Fishface wrote: "Lady♥Belleza★✰ wrote: "Public education in the USA ."
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Nice gif. Appropriate."

I cant believe she got approved. But then again...you cant be..."


Apparently that is all we need to do to earn a cabinet post.


message 49: by Selina (new)

Selina (literatelibrarian) | 3104 comments hmm apart from Carrie Fisher, I don't really know or have heard of any of these people!!!

Although I have heard of Mary Tyler Moore as a name but don't think I ever saw her acting.

I guess well-known people from before I was born like actors/actresses ARE getting on in years.

Has any of you been to the cemetery lately to visit graves. I mean, at least when you go there you know they are resting in peace, as opposed to washed up on the shore somewhere.


message 50: by Koren (new)

Koren  (koren56) | 4044 comments Mod
Selina wrote: "hmm apart from Carrie Fisher, I don't really know or have heard of any of these people!!!

Although I have heard of Mary Tyler Moore as a name but don't think I ever saw her acting.

I guess well-..."


Selina, I live right next to a cemetery. I have worked in nursing homes for 30 years so I know a LOT of the people there. I view death as a part of life and we will all have to do it some day. I know that they no longer have pain or troubles and we will see them again some day.


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