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Gisela (chicadorlando) | 4022 comments


The Picture of Dorian Gray
by Oscar Wilde


Dorian Gray, a handsome and narcissistic young man, lives thoughtlessly for his own pleasure - an attitude encouraged by the company he keeps. One day, after having his portrait painted, Dorian makes a frivolous Faustian wish: that he should always remain as young and beautiful as he is in that painting, while the portrait grows old in his stead.

The wish comes true, and Dorian soon finds that none of his wicked actions have visible consequences. Realizing that he will appear fresh and unspoiled no matter what kind of life he lives, Dorian becomes increasingly corrupt, unchecked by public opinion. Only the portrait grows degenerate and ugly, a powerful symbol of Dorian's internal ruin.

Wilde's dreamlike exploration of life without limits scandalized its late-Victorian audience and has haunted readers' imaginations for more than a hundred years.

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Shosho, Elishia, and I will be listening to the audio version offered by the SYNC summer program. If you wish to join us, you can download here. It'll be available for until tomorrow, so hurry! If you're too late, this book is in the public domain so you can find the ebook free online.

* The copy I'm using to read along can be found here .


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ShoSho  (shoshost) | 12263 comments I listened to 5 minutes, I ran out of charge :D


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Gisela (chicadorlando) | 4022 comments LOL, I haven't listened to anything today, so I'm still on chapter 2.


Elishia | 2620 comments I've started but can't remember where I am, I'll come back in a bit


Elishia | 2620 comments I've just started chapter 2, is Basil gay?


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Gisela (chicadorlando) | 4022 comments Elishia wrote: "I've just started chapter 2, is Basil gay?"

That was my impression.


Elishia | 2620 comments I also thought they were older in the first chapter but after that scene with the painting they seem really young I'm so confused. Think I only listened to a chapter maybe a bit more.

I like that it's in East London because I can picture where they are.


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Gisela (chicadorlando) | 4022 comments Elishia wrote: "I also thought they were older in the first chapter but after that scene with the painting they seem really young I'm so confused. Think I only listened to a chapter maybe a bit more.

I like that..."


I think both Basil and Lord Henry are older than Dorian, maybe late 20's. I think of Dorian as being 18-20 years old. Someone just come into adulthood and not quite sure who he is yet, so he's very impressionable.


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Gisela (chicadorlando) | 4022 comments Because some of us like to read along, I inluded the link of where to find a well formatted copy of the ebook and the one I'm using. Courtesy of the folks at MobileRead here .


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ShoSho  (shoshost) | 12263 comments Elishia wrote: "I've just started chapter 2, is Basil gay?"

That's what I thought too. I'm still in chapter 1.

Is this guy name Henry or Harry? Basil calls him Harry but he was introduced in the first page as lord Henry.


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ShoSho  (shoshost) | 12263 comments Gisela wrote: "Because some of us like to read along, I inluded the link of where to find a well formatted copy of the ebook and the one I'm using. Courtesy of the folks at MobileRead
here
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I got the ebook from the library. It's hard just to listen.


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ShoSho  (shoshost) | 12263 comments Just started chapter 3


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Gisela (chicadorlando) | 4022 comments ShoSho wrote: "Is this guy name Henry or Harry? Basil calls him Harry but he was introduced in the ..."

I think Harry is the nickname Basil uses for him.


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Gisela (chicadorlando) | 4022 comments Oh dear, this is just begging for someone to rewrite it as Fifty Shades of Dorian Gray, if it hasn't been done already. Some excerpts from Ch.3:

"And how charming he had been... the night before, as with startled eyes and lips parted in frightened pleasure he had sat opposite to him at the club, the red candleshades staining to a richer rose the wakening wonder of his face..."

"...like playing upon an exquisite violin. He answered to every touch and thrill of the bow. . . . There was something terribly enthralling in the exercise of influence. No other activity was like it."

"There was nothing that one could not do with him."

"Yes; he would try to be to Dorian Gray what, without knowing it, the lad was to the painter who had fashioned the wonderful portrait. He would seek to dominate him – had already, indeed, half done so. He would make that wonderful spirit his own."

"Dorian bowed to him shyly from the end of the table, a flush of pleasure stealing into his cheek."

"“I want him to play to me,” cried Lord Henry, smiling, and he looked down the table and caught a bright answering glance."

"As he was passing out of the door, Dorian Gray touched him on the arm. “Let me come with you,” he murmured."

“I would sooner come with you; yes, I feel I must come with you. Do let me. And you will promise to talk to me all the time? No one talks so wonderfully as you do.”



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ShoSho  (shoshost) | 12263 comments OMG , you're right!


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ShoSho  (shoshost) | 12263 comments I have a confession. I don't understand the point of most of the dialogues. what are they talking about?
That part in Harry's aunt's house when they were all talking about Americans what was the point?


Elishia | 2620 comments Boo I had notifications off I knew one of you must have commented by now.
I've just put it back on.
Sho I don't understand what half of their conversations are about I'm guessing they'll get to the point eventually, maybe it's a class thing because all they seem to do is go to each others house and tall about rubbish.

Hahaha Gisela I only noticed all that reading your comment, my mum probably wonders why I'm giggling.


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Elishia | 2620 comments The Erotic Picture of Dorian Gray, v1 by Anonymous Fifty Shades of Dorian Gray by Nicole Audrey Spector Fifty Shades of Dorian Gray Dorian Unwrapped (Dorian Grey Trilogy #1) by Gracey Lacewood
yes I Googled to see if it existed


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Gisela (chicadorlando) | 4022 comments ShoSho wrote: "I have a confession. I don't understand the point of most of the dialogues. what are they talking about?
That part in Harry's aunt's house when they were all talking about Americans what was the po..."


I know! They're so full of hot air!


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Gisela (chicadorlando) | 4022 comments Elishia wrote: "The Erotic Picture of Dorian Gray, v1 by Anonymous Fifty Shades of Dorian Gray by Nicole Audrey SpectorFifty Shades of Dorian Gray Dorian Unwrapped (Dorian Grey Trilogy #1) by Gracey Lacewood
yes I Googled to see if..."


Bahahahaha! I knew someone must've done it! LOL


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ShoSho  (shoshost) | 12263 comments Chapter 7 maybe! Or 6
(view spoiler)


Elishia | 2620 comments Didn't read any yesterday season 2 of Sense8 came out :-)


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ShoSho  (shoshost) | 12263 comments It's one of those books that you need to take in slowly and in moderation!


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ShoSho  (shoshost) | 12263 comments Chapter 9
(view spoiler)


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Gisela (chicadorlando) | 4022 comments ShoSho wrote: "Chapter 7 maybe! Or 6..."

(view spoiler)


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ShoSho  (shoshost) | 12263 comments Gisela wrote: "ShoSho wrote: "Chapter 7 maybe! Or 6..."

[spoilers removed]"


I hadn't got to the part where she talked with Dorian when I commented, and yes her reasoning seemed stupid to me too!


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Gisela (chicadorlando) | 4022 comments Lord Henry is like the little devil on Dorian's shoulder, while Basil plays the little angel.

BTW, Lord Henry is so disdainful of women! >:(


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Gisela (chicadorlando) | 4022 comments Ch.8 (view spoiler)


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ShoSho  (shoshost) | 12263 comments Gisela wrote: "Lord Henry is like the little devil on Dorian's shoulder, while Basil plays the little angel.

BTW, Lord Henry is so disdainful of women! >:("


He is really awful! His speech about women ...and then he talked about the woman that had loved him before, eeek


Elishia | 2620 comments I'm going to put it on while I crochet so I can read your comments.


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T.L. Clark (tlcauthor) | 12 comments I've read it already. It certainly has gay undertones, but then who's the author? ;-)

I loved it. It was a really good book, and a great social commentary on the perils of vanity xx


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ShoSho  (shoshost) | 12263 comments T.L. wrote: "I've read it already. It certainly has gay undertones, but then who's the author? ;-)

I loved it. It was a really good book, and a great social commentary on the perils of vanity xx"


I didn't know I just read his bio! Poor guy!


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ShoSho  (shoshost) | 12263 comments Chapter 13 I think
the last few minutes of part 5
(view spoiler)


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T.L. Clark (tlcauthor) | 12 comments Yeah, poor Oscar. He suffered a great deal.
There's actually a pretty cool film featuring Stephen Fry about his life.
It's so hard to believe now what we used to do to gay people. And yet now they're allowed to get married. We've come a long way thankfully.

But the fact it was illegal is why there's merely a gay undertone alluded to but never fully mentioned. It's as if Oscar whispered it.

xx


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ShoSho  (shoshost) | 12263 comments T.L. wrote: "It's so hard to believe now what we used to do to gay people. And yet now they're allowed to get married. We've come a long way thankfully."

I was thinking the same, in 70s and 80s in Australia gay people were prosecuted and imprisoned!! The world has come a long way in a short time and thank God for that!
I have to check that film out, sounds interesting specially with Steven Fry.


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ShoSho  (shoshost) | 12263 comments Chapter 15
(view spoiler)


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Gisela (chicadorlando) | 4022 comments ShoSho wrote: "Chapter 13 I think
the last few minutes of part 5
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That chapter is horrible! (view spoiler)


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Gisela (chicadorlando) | 4022 comments ShoSho wrote: "Chapter 15"

(view spoiler)


Elishia | 2620 comments No idea where I am but he's 38 now I think and Basil is having a go at him. I can't read the comments in spoilers because I'm on my phone. Earlier on I felt like Henry was high most of the time it's also like he didn't want to be alone so tried to corrupt Dorian.
That's interesting about Oscar Wilde I've heard of that film buy never seen it.


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ShoSho  (shoshost) | 12263 comments I th8think I had heard that before but i really like it.
We women love with our ears and you men with your eyes.


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Gisela (chicadorlando) | 4022 comments Elishia wrote: "Earlier on I felt like Henry was high most of the time it'..."

I hadn't thought about that; it would certainly explain most of the nonsense he says.


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Gisela (chicadorlando) | 4022 comments I'm done (view spoiler)


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T.L. Clark (tlcauthor) | 12 comments For those of you saying about being high, I think opium use was quite rife in the time it's set. So quite possible.
It would also go with the hedonistic life Dorian is led into. It's full of vices, vanity being perhaps the lesser.


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ShoSho  (shoshost) | 12263 comments Gisela wrote: "I'm done [spoilers removed]"

(view spoiler)


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ShoSho  (shoshost) | 12263 comments Gisela wrote: "Elishia wrote: "Earlier on I felt like Henry was high most of the time it'..."

I hadn't thought about that; it would certainly explain most of the nonsense he says."


In the first page it says he was smoking heavy opium-tainted cigarettes so you are correct to assume he was high for most of the book!


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ShoSho  (shoshost) | 12263 comments I need to watch one of the movies based on this book.


Elishia | 2620 comments I have a question that might of been answered already. Did Basil paint Dorian the way the painting is showing now and he was just blinded or is it meant to be magic.
Wow Dorian turned psycho while I was typing


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Gisela (chicadorlando) | 4022 comments It's never really explained. Dorian believes that somehow his prayer was answered but it's never explained the how, why or by whom. So yes, magic.


Elishia | 2620 comments Aah Ok thanks


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T.L. Clark (tlcauthor) | 12 comments Yeah, I'd go with magick too. He is kept artificially youthful whilst the painting shows his ageing, and indeed demonisation through his debauchery.


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