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message 1: by Akanksha (last edited Jun 19, 2017 02:20AM) (new)

Akanksha Chattopadhyay (akanksha_chattopadhyay) | 1129 comments 130 years old and still as charismatic, as entrancing, ruling over a million fans round the world, Arthur Conan Doyle's Sherlock Holmes, the quintessential Victorian detective sets up yet another network of dedicated followers.
The intention is to read/reread the momentous corpus of the adventures of the world's only consulting detective, which has affected cultural media on all fronts in a way that is unparalleled for a work of popular literature.
The game is afoot!


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Akanksha Chattopadhyay (akanksha_chattopadhyay) | 1129 comments Starting with A Study in Scarlet


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Here!!
Should we have a timetable? Like one novel and 2-3 stories in every two months?


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Akanksha Chattopadhyay (akanksha_chattopadhyay) | 1129 comments Arpit wrote: "Here!!
Should we have a timetable? Like one novel and 2-3 stories in every two months?"

Yes, we could do that.


Em*Greedy* (Iniya) (iniya_n) | 4582 comments present !! Love the title Aka :-)


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Akanksha Chattopadhyay (akanksha_chattopadhyay) | 1129 comments When do we start?


Em*Greedy* (Iniya) (iniya_n) | 4582 comments same qn ....


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Sharadha Jayaraman (jayaras) | 1795 comments Marking my presence in this pleasurable (ad)venture.

Loved the title and introduction, Aka. Doyle'll be proud of his fans :D

Can we start tonight if the rest don't have a bustling CR? I only have The Godfather going on at the moment, which I'm tempted to leave for a while to pick up a Holmes. If it's not ok with others, then I'll wait until another date is decided upon.


Ahtims (embeddedinbooks) | 47131 comments Mod
Good luck to all the Irregulars :)


Rebecca | 878 comments I will be regular in my lurking here. Have reread A study in Scarlet and The hound of Baskerville the year before last. Actually listened to the audio from librivox. So will join for the discussions.


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Gorab (itsgorab) | 3765 comments Mod
Lovely thread Aka! Joining in for Scarlet.....


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Akanksha Chattopadhyay (akanksha_chattopadhyay) | 1129 comments Right then, I will startt Scarlet later tonight.


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Sharadha Jayaraman (jayaras) | 1795 comments Akanksha wrote: "Right then, I will startt Scarlet Later tonight."

+1


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Akanksha Chattopadhyay (akanksha_chattopadhyay) | 1129 comments Who else is starting?🔍


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Gorab (itsgorab) | 3765 comments Mod
Started. four chapters in. it's very interesting.

have seen the Cumberbatch TV show.... and realised it is slightly improvised.


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Gorab wrote: "Started. four chapters in. it's very interesting.

have seen the Cumberbatch TV show.... and realised it is slightly improvised."


Fast!! 😲

I'll start from tomorrow.


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Ankit | 644 comments Would love to join. But I have already read A Study in Scarlet and The Hound of the Baskervilles.

However, I want to re-read The Sign of Four. So I will join from then on.


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Akanksha Chattopadhyay (akanksha_chattopadhyay) | 1129 comments Gorab wrote: "Started. four chapters in. it's very interesting.

have seen the Cumberbatch TV show.... and realised it is slightly improvised."

Retold with elements drawn from many stories. I think Study in Pink, in itself, is a better story than Scarlet.


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Gorab (itsgorab) | 3765 comments Mod
There was a reference of a character called Dupin from Edgar Ellen Poe. Anybody knows about this character?


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Gorab (itsgorab) | 3765 comments Mod
Welcome Ankit. We will be reading many stories of Sherlock here. Do join in to increase the fun :)


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Gorab wrote: "There was a reference of a character called Dupin from Edgar Ellen Poe. Anybody knows about this character?"

Vote for the first book (the Poe one) Vijay suggested, and find the answer by yourself :)


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Hajarath Prasad Abburu (hajarath) | 919 comments Cool.. I'll join in :)

Shar : You are leaving Godfather? *BLOCKED*


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Gorab (itsgorab) | 3765 comments Mod
Akanksha wrote: "Retold with elements drawn from many stories. I think Study in Pink, in itself, is a better story than Scarlet."

Apart from elements from different story, I remember some modern touch also. Like deducing from scratches found on Watson's iPhone on their first meet....


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Gorab (itsgorab) | 3765 comments Mod
Arpit wrote: "Gorab wrote: "There was a reference of a character called Dupin from Edgar Ellen Poe. Anybody knows about this character?"

Vote for the first book (the Poe one) Vijay suggested, and find the answe..."


Vote of thanks for your awesome suggestion. Do we give you a standing ovation now! Take a bow :D


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Akanksha Chattopadhyay (akanksha_chattopadhyay) | 1129 comments Gorab wrote: "Akanksha wrote: "Retold with elements drawn from many stories. I think Study in Pink, in itself, is a better story than Scarlet."

Apart from elements from different story, I remember some modern t..."


Yes, Moffat says it's a modern retelling with 21st century setting and props while the essential stays unrouched.
The phone thing is taken from Sign of Four where exactly the same deductions are made from Watson's pocket watch. You have reached the part where they find a woman's wedding ring near the body, haven't you? That's another phone-other object swap. A mirroring role is played by Jennifer Wilson's phone, the "pink" phone, in A Study in Pink.


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Gorab (itsgorab) | 3765 comments Mod
Interesting. I'll watch the TV series again after reading the related stories.... Just to notice these differences. Would be fun :)


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Akanksha Chattopadhyay (akanksha_chattopadhyay) | 1129 comments Gorab wrote: "Interesting. I'll watch the TV series again after reading the related stories.... Just to notice these differences. Would be fun :)"

Yes, almost everything is, in some way or the other, taken from one or the other story. It's up to the viewer to " deduce" the connections!


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Gorab (itsgorab) | 3765 comments Mod
:D


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Akanksha Chattopadhyay (akanksha_chattopadhyay) | 1129 comments Finished Scarlet. How far, people?


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Gorab (itsgorab) | 3765 comments Mod
I'm on Part 2 now.....


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Akanksha Chattopadhyay (akanksha_chattopadhyay) | 1129 comments Beginning of part two is so boring😓


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Gorab (itsgorab) | 3765 comments Mod
Yeah I slept off to it :P


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Finished it. 3 stars!


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Excited to read Dupin now!
Will read more Holmes next year.


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Akanksha Chattopadhyay (akanksha_chattopadhyay) | 1129 comments Done with The Sign of Four


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Akanksha Chattopadhyay (akanksha_chattopadhyay) | 1129 comments Starting Adventures. I see that never added this on GR!


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Gorab (itsgorab) | 3765 comments Mod
You're zooming superfast :)
All are re-reads or you'll be reading some for first time?


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How was The Sign of Four, Aka?


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Akanksha Chattopadhyay (akanksha_chattopadhyay) | 1129 comments Gorab wrote: "You're zooming superfast :)
All are re-reads or you'll be reading some for first time?"


all rereads, but there are some that I read a while back.


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Akanksha Chattopadhyay (akanksha_chattopadhyay) | 1129 comments Arpit wrote: "How was The Sign of Four, Aka?"
I like Sign of Four a tad better than Scarlet. 5 stars.


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Gorab (itsgorab) | 3765 comments Mod
Halfway down with Sign of Four. Liking it better than the first one.

And remembering the TV series again... the scene when Watson was introduced to Sherlock... and all that deductions from his iPhone! Now I know where that came in from :) :)


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Gorab (itsgorab) | 3765 comments Mod
Regarding the TV episode of Study in Scarlet...
Major spoilers... Avoid if you haven't read SIScarlet
(view spoiler)


message 43: by Gorab, TheGunman (last edited Jun 23, 2017 03:17AM) (new)

Gorab (itsgorab) | 3765 comments Mod
Sorry for deviating time and again with the TV series (No I don't mean this apology :P)
Is the TV episode of Sign of Four the same one where the lady comes in naked with the intention that Sherlock wouldn't be able to deduce anything from her clothes/attire?
Found semblance with the book story where the lady comes in with bland clothes and turban....


message 44: by Akanksha (last edited Jun 23, 2017 04:07AM) (new)

Akanksha Chattopadhyay (akanksha_chattopadhyay) | 1129 comments Gorab wrote: "Sorry for deviating time and again with the TV series (No I don't mean this apology :P)
Is the TV episode of Sign of Four the same one where the lady comes in naked with the intention that Sherlock..."

I think Mary Morstan's clothes were meant to be modestly beaitiful. But of course, it should be open to theories. But I cannot work out a parallel betwen Irene Adler and Mary, except that both are exceptionally strong women who win Sherlock Holmes over by nearly defeating him. Adler's story is The Scandal in Bohemia.


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Akanksha Chattopadhyay (akanksha_chattopadhyay) | 1129 comments Gorab wrote: "Regarding the TV episode of Study in Scarlet...
Major spoilers... Avoid if you haven't read SIScarlet
[spoilers removed]"

I think that bit is a wonderful improvisation. Cannot recall a similar situation in canon. But who knows, there might be one.


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Jerry Jose (jerryjose7) | 469 comments This is a cool initiative. If any buddy reads are up, I would love to re reads.


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Akanksha Chattopadhyay (akanksha_chattopadhyay) | 1129 comments Jerry wrote: "This is a cool initiative. If any buddy reads are up, I would love to re reads."

Buddy Reads are up, but everyone is reading at their own pace.
I, personally, intend to reread the whole thing at a stretch. Join in :)


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Ankit | 644 comments Gorab wrote: "Sorry for deviating time and again with the TV series (No I don't mean this apology :P)
Is the TV episode of Sign of Four the same one where the lady comes in naked with the intention that Sherlock..."


That episode is called A Scandal in Belgravia, season 2, episode 1. The lady is Irene Adler.

I don't think there is any episode which is based on The Sign of Four.


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Akanksha Chattopadhyay (akanksha_chattopadhyay) | 1129 comments Ankit wrote: "Gorab wrote: "Sorry for deviating time and again with the TV series (No I don't mean this apology :P)
Is the TV episode of Sign of Four the same one where the lady comes in naked with the intention..."


The locked room mystery in the model of Sign of Four figures in The Blind Banker (season 1, episode 2), except there are Chinese acrobats instead of a savage from the Andamans. Major Sholto and Jonathan Small appear in Sign of Three (season 3, episode 2), a glimpse of a dwarf shooting darts through a blow-pipe is also shown in the same episode, though it is done as a reference to another case, not to mention John marrying Mary. Both of these episodes draw heavily upon Sign of Four.
The concept of AGRA, four people bound by an irrevocable vow, as shown in His Last Vow (3,iii) and The Six Thatchers(4,i), is also drawn from SoF. Of course there are numerous other instances where the novel is alluded to, but these, I think, are the most important ones.


message 50: by Ankit (last edited Jun 23, 2017 05:00PM) (new)

Ankit | 644 comments Akanksha wrote: "Ankit wrote: "Gorab wrote: "Sorry for deviating time and again with the TV series (No I don't mean this apology :P)
Is the TV episode of Sign of Four the same one where the lady comes in naked with..."


Sure. Multiple episodes have elements from the book. My favourite being the Agra acronym ("What are you, Wikipedia?").

What I meant was no episode has story similar to The Sign of Four; for instance His Last Vow is based on the short story Charles Augustus Milverton.


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