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As it's coming up to Halloween, anyone got any good, or bad, ghost (posts) tales to tell?

! ! ! BOO ! ! ! ...



I have a couple of rather nice ones - comforting rather than creepy but I'll post them up when I've got a little more time and the energy to type them out, Lovebug ... x x x ;o>

Cor blimey, ive just about stopped shaking!

I'm just wondering how many of us think Ghosts/Spirits etc actually exist, and how many think they are a figment of our imaginations.

Imagination ;)

Illusion ;o> ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PK5Ce...

Self Delusion/ Gullible
(See also UFO's, Flying Saucers, Alien Abduction, Scientology, Time Travel, Psychics, Astrology etc, most theoretical science like Superstring, multi-dimensional or parallel universes etc, if you can't prove it lads and lasses then it is at best a nice idea but it ain't science.)

Time travel (forwards at least) is theoretically possible. Time dilation is part of Einstein's theory of relativity. Astronauts on the international space station, after six months, will have aged fractionally less than people on earth due to this effect. In theory as one approaches the speed of light time will slow down, enabling a traveler who journeys for say a year to return to their point of origin to find many years will have passed there (the faster they have traveled the more time will go by on earth).

Brian May used this principle when he wrote '39 for Queen.

Once upon
A Halloween so dreary
My mouth was dry
My sight was bleary

I tried to please
All the goblins and ghosts
I dressed up as a witch
I was a very good host!

But then I got greedy
And tuned out the noise
I shut off the lights
Ate a dozen Almond Joys

Next year I'll be better
And won't burst my britches
I'll just buy a lot
Of miniature Snickers

And I'll wear a new costume
Though I won't be in fashion
I'll just pretend that I am a
Fignewton of my imagination!

Martin wrote: "Self Delusion/ Gullible
(See also UFO's, Flying Saucers, Alien Abduction, Scientology, Time Travel, Psychics, Astrology etc, most theoretical science like Superstring, multi-dimensional or parallel..."

Hmmm, well in that case I think I shall keep my own personal experiences to myself then ;o>

I don't know whether I do or don't believe in Ghosts?

However I do know that I have experienced things whilst a Nurse that causes me to believe that there really is far more to this life, and also to dying and to death as well, than we will probably ever get to understand for sure. That there are so many things that our still limited knowledge of Science can not account for or manage to conclusively prove or disprove.

And I'm not one of those people who can be doing with all of those awful paranormal investigation shows either - as I feel that the dead should be afforded the greatest of respect and either left in peace or, if necessary, helped to become at peace by special people who don't regard it to be some bizarre form of money-spinning entertainment.

I would like to think it is just imaginations or maybe misreading of situations. Such as thinking your are awake and experiencing a thing, when in fact you are dreaming.
But, and I'm not sure I wish to share.... I have had some strange experiences for which I could not and still cannot find a 'logical' reason for/explanation. Nothing scary, just strange.
I do agree with Suzy in that there is far more to this life, living and dying, than we are as yet to understand. Then is that not true of so very much so far undiscovered or understood.
I hope you all had good treats or funny tricks this Halloween, if you were inflicted with the 'Americanisation' of this "All Souls Day".
All I saw was one young lady with a Dogs/Cats nose in face paint on the tip of her nose?
Eh?
Maybe a shy 'witches cat' hiding the whiskers and tail.... LOL.

Tim wrote: "Time travel (forwards at least) is theoretically possible. Time dilation is part of Einstein's theory of relativity. Astronauts on the international space station, after six months, will have aged ..."

Yes Tim, but isn't Time Dilation simpy an effect of Relativity, two seperate bodies that appear to age at different rates relative to each other yet individually are actually aging at the same rate according to their localised space/time continuum. It is only when the two are observed together that the difference can be inferred.

Apologies offered, my opinions derives from my logical stance, there may be phenomenon that are unexplainable and I am first to set up camp in the science doesn't know or explain everything. Take UFO's,
as defined any object that appears to move across the sky which is unkown in origin and has no known explanation. I have seen odd things in the sky, I just don't accept that there are little green men sitting in the pilot seat. On a cosmic level space is HUGE! Even travelling at the speed of light the nearest stellar nieghbours are over four years distant, type G stars similar to our own are fifteen years plus. Earth is well shielded from the worst radiations that are present in deep space due to various factors and maintains all that is necessary to promote and sustain life for the moment. It is what is known as the "Goldilocks" affect. That there are, have been or will be planets somewhere that are capable of also producing life I have no doubt, it would be foolish and extremely egotistical to assume otherwise given the statistics. Wether they could develop the technology to overcome the sheer volume of problematic obstacles I find very dubious and if they could would they deem it worthwhile to travel across the cosmos to visit one insignificant planet in the back end of beyond, l highly doubt it. And further if such an event had or will happen in in mankinds lifetime why would they choose to do so in secrecy. If there are UFO'S on the sky I would say there origins and existence are more likely of an Earthly source and given the nature of various governments for clandestine behaviour therein lies the truth.
Similarly the functions of the human brain and our concious minds are steeped in mystery and unknowns, I just find the supernatural equally hard to believe in. My own pet theory is that conciousness may be linked to certain properties of the electromagnetic spectrum that produce awareness and sentient properties in all living things to some degree, more metaphysical than mystical. But then believe is based purely on faith and faith requires no proof to be sustainable so who am I to judge others. To thine ownself be true, do what thou wilt shall be whole of the law (see Thelema). I do not profess to understand what makes the universe tick, I'm just glad it does and continues to do so, to me it exists simply because it follows a natural progression of cause and effect.

Martin wrote: "Yes Tim, but isn't Time Dilation simpy an effect of Relativity, two seperate bodies that appear to age at different rates relative to each other yet individually are actually aging at the same rate according to their localised space/time continuum. It is only when the two are observed together that the difference can be inferred. "

I'm not a physicist, so not qualified to answer that. If the Wiki page claim that ISS astronauts aged even fractionally less than people on earth after six months (0.0005 of a second if I remember without opening the page), that does suggest it's a more than just an appearance, surely? However it may be, the technology to accomplish it is so far out of our league as to appear to be 'magic'!

Just imagine if the Space Bods could increase that 0.0005 of a second to several years of slowed down ageing? ... we'd have thousands of pointless celebrities queuing up for Spacesuits and buying second homes out on Space Stations and we would finally get a break from all of those endless celebrity Reality Shows on TV!!! ... YAYYY!!!

QUICK!!! - someone tell Amanda Holden and Katie Price the good news!!! ... ;o> ... ;o> ... ;o>

suzysunshine7 wrote: "Just imagine if the Space Bods could increase that 0.0005 of a second to several years of slowed down ageing? ... we'd have thousands of pointless celebrities queuing up for Spacesuits and buying s..."

You've obviously not heard about the pilot show for the first series of 'Celebrity Space Station....LIVE!' - coming soon to every bloody channel on the TV!
(sponsored by Virgin, of course)

I'd watch that ... but only just to be able to vote on who gets jettisoned out of an Air Lock into open Space! ;o>

suzysunshine7 wrote: "I'd watch that ... but only just to be able to vote on who gets jettisoned out of an Air Lock into open Space! ;o>"

Watch it?
I want the app that allows one lucky voter to remotely press the eject button :)

Grizzlygrump wrote: "Watch it? I want the app that allows one lucky voter to re..."

Ooooooooooooooh?!! - me too! - me too! ;o>

The self-destruct button would be better. A good fireworks display always goes down well.

Yeah?! - but do you really want to risk getting hit by any Asteroids made up of flaming bits of Silicone and molten Implants that re-enter the Earth's orbit, Tim?!! ;oO

suzysunshine7 wrote: "Yeah?! - but do you really want to risk getting hit by any Asteroids made up of flaming bits of Silicone and molten Implants that re-enter the Earth's orbit, Tim?!! ;oO"

That'd be the same risk with the airlock surely, suzy. 🌝

Oooh? - I hadn't thought of them exploding though? - just endlessly drifting around in Space always on the look out for the next party and photo opportunity!

suzysunshine7 wrote: "Oooh? - I hadn't thought of them exploding though? - just endlessly drifting around in Space always on the look out for the next party and photo opportunity!"

Proudly showing off all the bits and blobs.... (yuk)

suzysunshine7 wrote: "Oooh? - I hadn't thought of them exploding though? - just endlessly drifting around in Space always on the look out for the next party and photo opportunity!"

Parties in space would be unlikely. There's no atmosphere!! 😎😂

........in space no-one can hear your party popper!

Uglybug wrote: "I would like to think it is just imaginations or maybe misreading of situations. Such as thinking your are awake and experiencing a thing, when in fact you are dreaming.
But, and I'm not sure I wi..."

Hi UB! Just got over first bout of 'flu in 8 years. Hope you're good. :) The first phenomenon you mentioned sounds like sleep paralysis. It's recognised medically, but not yet fully understood. X

Leftin wrote: "Uglybug wrote: "I would like to think it is just imaginations or maybe misreading of situations. Such as thinking your are awake and experiencing a thing, when in fact you are dreaming.
But, and I..."

I had one scary episode of "Sleep Paralysis"~so real!!!- a man was climbing in through my bedroom window~ I couldn't reach for the phone or move a muscle~ Now I make sure all my windows are firmly locked at all times.

Is it common for a person to realize that they're dreaming whilst in the middle of a dream, and then kinda twist the 'physics' or 'rules' of said dream to their liking? Happened to me several times, and for some strange reason, whenever I've been aware that I'm dreaming, I chose to fly.... every time!! A shrink could no doubt tell me why I choose to fly each time. In fact there's probably loadsa sites all over t'internet explaining such stuff if i can be bothered to have a look.

I've experienced that very rarely Blast, never seem to be able to hold that control for long and usually wake up just before the good bits!
The 'flying' dream is quite common and also, for me anyway, space ships and attacking aliens for some reason. Like yourself I can't really be bothered to research it and probably think it a load of codswallop anyway. There must be an evolutionary advantage to sleep and dreaming but for primitive humans seems an awfully dangerous way to pass the time. From what I can gather most, if not all animals, birds and fish engage in some form of sleeping, some even manage to seperate the two halves of the brain and alternate between them.
I wonder if plants do? Science seems to embrace the notion that they have a rudimentary awareness, if not actual intelligence, that could be construed as having consciousness. If that is so then where does that leave the vegetarian sect, kind of blows their arguments against eating meat out of the water?

Depends on the reason for being a vegetarian. I cannot (in ordinary circumstances) bring myself to kill things - not even garden pests like slugs and vine weevils etc. It seems hypocritical to me to take advantage of someone else's willingness so that I can enjoy a steak. I'm quite prepared to chop carrots or boil peas, so I'll eat them. Whether my conscience/squeamishness would last after a few days alone on a desert island is something I hope not to test...

Blastronaut Mk2 wrote: "Is it common for a person to realize that they're dreaming whilst in the middle of a dream, and then kinda twist the 'physics' or 'rules' of said dream to their liking? Happened to me several times..."

I've had a few lucid dream experiences, flying, swimming etc, had regular dreams of being chased and died few times as well. Also had many concepts, projects and goals that were truly ground-breaking but upon waking can never remember. Thoroughly entertaining stuff!

Martin - Yeah you're right about the control thing, it's always been close to waking up so I'm not 'flying' around for too long. Longest time I've kinda had control in a dream was maybe five mins, but that's 'dream-time' y'know, in reality it was probably twenty-odd seconds.
Freaky that ya mentioned spaceships attacking and such like; I've had what one could call a recurring dream about attack from the skies many many times. Lights in the sky and bombs/rockets raining down everywhere. Quite scary to be honest. Things is tho, I never ever get to see who's piloting these lights in the sky but always assume it's Russia who's invading rather than aliens. I realize that sounds a bit daft but that's honestly how it is in the dreams. Maybe it's something to do with growing up during the Cold War but maybe not. Who knows? All I do know is, that I never seems to have control in these dreams/nightmares.
Vegetables? Not the biggest fan of veggies so my conscience is more-or-less clear. I say 'more-or-less cos I am partial to a few chips sometimes. : )

Sera - Very rare I 'died' in any of my dreams; I only remember once and I was shot. Actually seemed to take a while to expire as everything kinda wound down over what felt like a few minutes. A bit like if ya got yer finger on some vinyl and slowed the music down yourself bit by bit to a stop; that's how it sounded, indeed felt. This dream I speak of musta happened at least twenty yrs ago; really don't know how I remember it so clearly when I struggle to remember what I did yesterday. Weird eh?

i have very vivid and colourful dreams, of which i recollect little, but they always end with a brick or a fist coming out of nowhere straight for my head. this is so startling that it always wakes me.
i do remember some dreams, particularly one in which i had to crawl thru' a narrowing canvas tube tent for miles, until i reached a very small cinema for one, actually a solitary t.v. set showing 'eraserhead 2' in colour!

... and you were just settling down to watch, with the dream popcorn and giant cola, when the fist woke you up? 😂

Craig wrote: "i have very vivid and colourful dreams, of which i recollect little, but they always end with a brick or a fist coming out of nowhere straight for my head. this is so startling that it always wakes..."

Are you David Lynch????

no, but i do let him direct my dreams!

My sister and I once had the same dream on the same night! We’re not twins and we had separate rooms and we both dreamt the binmen were burgling the house. It hadn’t been a news item (no telly then anyway) and not a local incident or anything. Very worrying !

I dream that the binmen actually turn up and empty the bloody bins!!!

Seriously, t'other half's brother once had a dream that someone was stroking him under his eye; sounds good eh? Not really, the next day he got a kicking and ended up with a shattered cheekbone! Very freaky.

I once sat up in bed in the middle of the night. I immediately knew that some close relative had died at that very moment!

Over the next few days I made enquiries. No-one had died or even been injured. So much for that.

You sound almost disappointed there TB!😉

Tech wrote: "i have very vivid and colourful dreams, of which i recollect little, but they always end with a brick or a fist coming out of nowhere straight for my head. this is so startling that it always wakes..."

Right, that's the plot for my next book sorted! You are a constant source of inspiration, Tech.

feel free to use my image on the cover! that should shift a coupla million copies for you! :)

The Photo of you in your Christmas Elf Jumper?!! ;oO

... is the World ready, I ask myself?!! ;o>

The worst dream I ever had was that I spent a whole day doing filing in an insurance company claims department.
I woke up exhausted.

! ... ;o>

I suffer from Night Terrors whenever I am under extreme stress and, during the time that it is happening, I have the most horrendous and sickeningly vivid nightmares that leave me very badly shocked and distressed afterwards. Luckily though they don't kick off too often or carry on with happening every night for too long or I'd probably crack up!

Horror films don't even come vaguely close to being horrific or scary compared to what goes on in these kinds of terrible dreams ;o<

My problem with horror films is the same as magicians, no matter how good the tricks or effects are part of you knows that it's not real and doesn't affect you on a personal level. Vivid dreams can seem so real that you are emersed in their universe and totally involved, they are much more effective and threatening and feel much more malovelent. What is that thing under the bed or in that cupboard or wardrobe? Shrouded in dark and reeking of evil, the unseen behind the door whose very breath chills your blood and fills you with dread, an invisible prescence that pervades your every sense with deep foreboding. Gulp! I think I'm in need of some light relief now.

"What is that thing under the bed or in that cupboard or wardrobe? Shrouded in dark and reeking of evil, the unseen behind the door whose very breath chills your blood and fills you with dread, an invisible prescence that pervades your every sense with deep foreboding."

hi honey, i'm home! :)

HA HA HA!!! ;o>

My night terrors are actually all about my family and them dying in utterly terrible ways - and nothing that I try my very best to do can ever save them ;o<

The dreams are SO vivid that I often have to get up and prove to myself that M&D are still alive by peeking in on them - and then getting a mug of Tea and sitting downstairs with the little hairy woofers for company (in the early hours while they continue to sleep on) until I have calmed down enough to stop shaking.

Absolutely loving the fantastic new Ikea advert!!! ;o> ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hw9A6...