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2018 Historical Mystery Clue
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Historical Mystery Clue (2018) - Rules & Questions
CATEGORIES and TASKS
1. GENERAL CLUE TRIVIA
1. Clue was originally produced in Leeds, England in 1949. The game idea had been sold earlier than 1949, but due to war shortages, could not be produced and marketed until 1949. Read any book set in the United Kingdom OR any book revolving around World War II.
2. The murder victim is known as “Dr. Black” in UK game versions and usually referred to as “Mr. Boddy” in US versions. Read a book with a black cover OR a book with a corpse on the cover.
3. The secret envelope is stored in the cellar of the mansion. There are 324 possible solutions to the murder! Read a book which has been “archived in your cellar” for a year or more OR read a book with 324 pages OR read a book with 2, 3, or 4 in the total number of pages.
4. The 50th Anniversary edition of Clue has a bottle of poison added to the list of possible murder weapons. Read a book in which someone is poisoned OR a book with any beverage or any type of bottle on the cover.
2. THE SUSPECTS
Miss Scarlet - Read a book with a red cover OR a glamorous looking female on the cover OR since Miss Scarlet always makes the first game move, read a book that is first in a series.
Colonel Mustard – Read a book with a yellow cover OR a protagonist who is a former or current military man.
Professor Plum – Read a book with a purple cover OR a protagonist who is a teacher / professor.
Mr. Green (originally Reverend Green) – Read a book with a green cover OR a place of worship on the cover/storyline OR a protagonist who is a clerical figure.
Mrs. White – Read a book with a white cover OR a protagonist who is a healer of any kind (nurse, doctor, midwife, herbalist, "wise woman", etc.).
Mrs. Peacock – Read a book with a blue cover OR has any type of bird on the cover OR a protagonist who is a female servant of any kind (housekeeper, companion, governess, cook, maid, etc.).
3. THE WEAPONS
Rope – Read a book with rope on the cover OR a book whose author initials can be found in ROPE (any initial counts).
Lead Pipe – Read a book with any type of long, cylindrical object on the cover OR a book whose title or author contain any type of metal (i.e. gold, silver, tin, lead, etc.)
Knife – Read a book with any type of knife on the cover (i.e. dinner knife, sword, dagger) OR a book with any word relating to knives in the title, author or protagonist's name (SHARP, CUT, STAB, SLICE, SLASH, etc).
Wrench – Read a book with a wrench on the cover or a book whose cover shows anything that might be purchased in a hardware store (i.e. hammer, saw, nails, paint).
Candlestick – Read a book with a candle on the cover (bonus for finding a candlestick!) OR a book with any type of flame on the cover.
Revolver – Read a book with any type of gun on the cover OR a book with any of the following words in the title: READY, AIM, FIRE, BANG, BULLET, SHOOT, SHOT, SAFETY, or TRIGGER.
4. THE ROOMS
Kitchen – Read a book with a kitchen on the cover OR a book with any item typically found in a kitchen on the cover (dish, food).
Study – Read a book with a study/office on the cover OR a book with any type of school or office supplies on it.
Conservatory – Read a book showing any type of large, glass structure on the front OR a book with plants, flowers, or trees on the cover.
Hall – Read a book with any of the following items on the cover: castle, body of armor, banner, tapestry, candelabra, chandelier or throne OR read book with any word in the title or author name that rhymes with hall*
*The word can be a derivative, i.e., CALLing, TALLest, etc.
*Words that rhyme but are spelled differently also work, i.e., MAUL, PAUL, etc.
Dining Room – Read a book with a food-laden table or buffet on the cover OR a book with any type of dish, silver ware, or serving piece (i.e. platter, large bowl, pitcher) on the cover.
Billiard Room – Read a book depicting a billiards or pool table on the cover OR a book showing any kind of round object on the cover.
Lounge – Read a book with any type of chair or sofa on the cover OR a book cover showing any kind of leisure activity.
Library – Read a book showing a library on its cover OR a book that has a book or person reading on the cover.
Ballroom – Read a book with any type of dancer on the cover OR a book with a gathering of people on the cover (3 or more people).
1. GENERAL CLUE TRIVIA
1. Clue was originally produced in Leeds, England in 1949. The game idea had been sold earlier than 1949, but due to war shortages, could not be produced and marketed until 1949. Read any book set in the United Kingdom OR any book revolving around World War II.
2. The murder victim is known as “Dr. Black” in UK game versions and usually referred to as “Mr. Boddy” in US versions. Read a book with a black cover OR a book with a corpse on the cover.
3. The secret envelope is stored in the cellar of the mansion. There are 324 possible solutions to the murder! Read a book which has been “archived in your cellar” for a year or more OR read a book with 324 pages OR read a book with 2, 3, or 4 in the total number of pages.
4. The 50th Anniversary edition of Clue has a bottle of poison added to the list of possible murder weapons. Read a book in which someone is poisoned OR a book with any beverage or any type of bottle on the cover.
2. THE SUSPECTS
Miss Scarlet - Read a book with a red cover OR a glamorous looking female on the cover OR since Miss Scarlet always makes the first game move, read a book that is first in a series.
Colonel Mustard – Read a book with a yellow cover OR a protagonist who is a former or current military man.
Professor Plum – Read a book with a purple cover OR a protagonist who is a teacher / professor.
Mr. Green (originally Reverend Green) – Read a book with a green cover OR a place of worship on the cover/storyline OR a protagonist who is a clerical figure.
Mrs. White – Read a book with a white cover OR a protagonist who is a healer of any kind (nurse, doctor, midwife, herbalist, "wise woman", etc.).
Mrs. Peacock – Read a book with a blue cover OR has any type of bird on the cover OR a protagonist who is a female servant of any kind (housekeeper, companion, governess, cook, maid, etc.).
3. THE WEAPONS
Rope – Read a book with rope on the cover OR a book whose author initials can be found in ROPE (any initial counts).
Lead Pipe – Read a book with any type of long, cylindrical object on the cover OR a book whose title or author contain any type of metal (i.e. gold, silver, tin, lead, etc.)
Knife – Read a book with any type of knife on the cover (i.e. dinner knife, sword, dagger) OR a book with any word relating to knives in the title, author or protagonist's name (SHARP, CUT, STAB, SLICE, SLASH, etc).
Wrench – Read a book with a wrench on the cover or a book whose cover shows anything that might be purchased in a hardware store (i.e. hammer, saw, nails, paint).
Candlestick – Read a book with a candle on the cover (bonus for finding a candlestick!) OR a book with any type of flame on the cover.
Revolver – Read a book with any type of gun on the cover OR a book with any of the following words in the title: READY, AIM, FIRE, BANG, BULLET, SHOOT, SHOT, SAFETY, or TRIGGER.
4. THE ROOMS
Kitchen – Read a book with a kitchen on the cover OR a book with any item typically found in a kitchen on the cover (dish, food).
Study – Read a book with a study/office on the cover OR a book with any type of school or office supplies on it.
Conservatory – Read a book showing any type of large, glass structure on the front OR a book with plants, flowers, or trees on the cover.
Hall – Read a book with any of the following items on the cover: castle, body of armor, banner, tapestry, candelabra, chandelier or throne OR read book with any word in the title or author name that rhymes with hall*
*The word can be a derivative, i.e., CALLing, TALLest, etc.
*Words that rhyme but are spelled differently also work, i.e., MAUL, PAUL, etc.
Dining Room – Read a book with a food-laden table or buffet on the cover OR a book with any type of dish, silver ware, or serving piece (i.e. platter, large bowl, pitcher) on the cover.
Billiard Room – Read a book depicting a billiards or pool table on the cover OR a book showing any kind of round object on the cover.
Lounge – Read a book with any type of chair or sofa on the cover OR a book cover showing any kind of leisure activity.
Library – Read a book showing a library on its cover OR a book that has a book or person reading on the cover.
Ballroom – Read a book with any type of dancer on the cover OR a book with a gathering of people on the cover (3 or more people).

Count me in!

Veronica wrote: "We just recently played this game this past summer during a camping weekend. It was a first time for all of us and the kids really loved it so of course we had to but it when we got home.."
It's one of my favorite games from childhood. I have very fond memories of playing :)
It's one of my favorite games from childhood. I have very fond memories of playing :)
Gretchen wrote: "You are amazing Lauren! I have only glanced through the instructions but I definitely plan on completely reading through them later. This looks like fun."
Thanks Gretchen!
I'm looking forward to seeing how everyone finds books to match the tasks :)
Thanks Gretchen!
I'm looking forward to seeing how everyone finds books to match the tasks :)

Candace wrote: "I am going to attempt this one Lauren! I spent the least time on GR last year due to personal events beyond my control ( that also meant less reading :-() I hope this year is different!"
Glad you are joining us, Candace! Hope everything is OK and that real life treats you better this year :)
Glad you are joining us, Candace! Hope everything is OK and that real life treats you better this year :)
Patricia wrote: "Sounds like fun! I will definitely give it a try. Thanks, Lauren!"
Sure thing, Patricia!
Sure thing, Patricia!

My choices:




Will any qualify?


Sandy wrote: "Question: I have 'lead pipe' for my first category and I wonder how inclusive 'long cylindrical object' is?
My choices:
- fencing foils with cylindrical blades..."
All of these quality :)
My choices:

All of these quality :)
Viji wrote: "Would
by W.H. Oxley be considered as Historical Mystery? I found a set of books by this author set in 1940s but GR has not mentioned the ..."
Unfortunately, the book has not description and there is no genre so I have to so no.

Unfortunately, the book has not description and there is no genre so I have to so no.


Butting in ...
Amazon has the following description:
Who stole Lady Basildon’s diamonds, and why are certain items of her underwear missing?
London – six months into the Second World War. While the phoney war continues in Europe and Hitler plots his next move, the war on crime is cranking up in London. Once again, Detective Inspector Hawker and Detective Sergeant Brightwell are called upon to solve an armed robbery. There’s no shortage of suspects: a butler with a dark secret, a valet who is not all he seems to be, a sexy housemaid, the Irish Republican Army and a couple of philandering milkmen to name but a few – and was it really Finland’s request for an armistice that necessitated Lord Basildon’s presence in the House of Lords? This time it will need Hawker’s brains, not Brightwell’s brawn, to solve it, with just a little help from Sherlock Holmes and a quota quickie.

My choices:

Thank you!


Thanks a lot, Sandy. But does it qualify as Historical Mystery?
Viji wrote: "Sandy wrote: "Lauren wrote: "Viji wrote: "Would
by W.H. Oxley be considered as Historical Mystery? I found a set of books by this author ..."
Yes, based on the description from Amazon, it is an historical mystery.

Yes, based on the description from Amazon, it is an historical mystery.

But I do have a few questions: The ultimate goal is to read 50 books ? (Categories/tasks x 2 options)
Re suspect Mrs White can second option of a nurse protagonist be expanded to include any type of period female healer such as midwife, "wise woman", herbalist, or even female doctor, etc?
Re suspect Mrs Peacock, second option- although bird on the cover allows ample scope could "housekeeper protagonist" be expanded to any female servant as Cook, Maid, Companion, Nanny, etc
I plan to review my physical book collection to see if I can fulfill most of the required reads as they come up with books I already own.


Thanks, Lauren.
Phair wrote: "I'm going to try this!
But I do have a few questions: The ultimate goal is to read 50 books ? (Categories/tasks x 2 options)
Re suspect Mrs White can second option of a nurse protagonist be expan..."
Glad you are joining in , Phair :)
The object is to collect all of the tasks. If you get a task that you have already collected, you still have to read a book for that task (one of the other options).
Re Mrs. White - yes, any female healer will do.
Re Mrs. Peacock - yes, any female servant will do.
I'll update the task descriptions to include these. Thanks!
But I do have a few questions: The ultimate goal is to read 50 books ? (Categories/tasks x 2 options)
Re suspect Mrs White can second option of a nurse protagonist be expan..."
Glad you are joining in , Phair :)
The object is to collect all of the tasks. If you get a task that you have already collected, you still have to read a book for that task (one of the other options).
Re Mrs. White - yes, any female healer will do.
Re Mrs. Peacock - yes, any female servant will do.
I'll update the task descriptions to include these. Thanks!

THE SUSPECTS
STEP 2 – 3 – Task - Professor Plum – Read a book with a protagonist who is a teacher / professor

THE SUSPECTS
STEP 2 – 3 – Task - Professor Plum – Read a book with a protagonist who is a teacher / professor"
How about the Gervase Fen series? The first is The Case of the Gilded Fly. I find him an really amusing hero and he is an Oxford professor.

THE SUSPECTS
STEP 2 – 3 – Task - Professor Plum – Read a book with a protagonist who is a teacher / professor"
I found another that I haven't read:
The Penguin Pool Murder
(Hildegarde Withers #1)
by Stuart Palmer
Spinster sleuth and school teacher, Hildegarde Withers, meets up with Inspector Oscar Piper at a murder at a New York City aquarium in this first book in the popular series. First published in 1931.

THE SUSPECTS
STEP 2 – 3 – Task - Professor Plum – Read a book with a protagonist who is a teacher / professor"
I found another that I haven't read:
[book:The Penguin ..."
Thanks a lot, Sandy. I found a set of Hildegarde Withers series in Kindle Unlimited but are they Historical Mysteries? GR Main Page Genre states that the book comes under, Mystery, Cozy Mystery, Mystery > Crime etc. Historical Fiction/Historical Mystery has not been mentioned.
Could I read one of the books from this series for the task?
Thanks.


The Bellehaven House Mysteries series features Meredith Llewellyn, headmistress of Bellehaven House Finishing School in Edwardian England.
BTW, what is the minimum no. of pages for the books to be read for this challenge? Is it 200 pages minimum?
Thanks.
Viji wrote:"Spinster sleuth and school teacher, Hildegarde Withers, meets up with Inspector Oscar Piper at a murder at a New York City aquarium in this first book in the popular series. First published in 1931. "
Published in 1931 means they are historical mysteries.
The Kate Kingsbury books also works for Teacher/Professor.
There is no page minimum. You can read whatever length of book you want.
Published in 1931 means they are historical mysteries.
The Kate Kingsbury books also works for Teacher/Professor.
There is no page minimum. You can read whatever length of book you want.

Thanks , Lauren. I was under the impression that the GR MPG should list the book as Historical Mystery and the minimum no. pages should be 200! I do not know where I got it!! hahahaha!
No problem, Viji.
Many groups do have those rules for their challenges. So its easy to get confused.
The rules for our challenge are in the first post if you want to refresh your memory :)
Many groups do have those rules for their challenges. So its easy to get confused.
The rules for our challenge are in the first post if you want to refresh your memory :)

Many groups do have those rules for their challenges. So its easy to get confused.
The rules for our challenge are in the first post if you want to refresh your memory :)"
Thank you, Lauren. I did not understand it properly when I read it first. I got it now.

Mr. Green (originally Reverend Green) – Read a book with a green cover OR a place of worship or a protagonist who is a clerical figure.
- Is that 1) green cover, & 2) place of worship or clerical figure central in plot, or is it
1) green cover, 2) place of worship on cover? and 3) clerical protagonist?
Yes, three options for that one. I will fix the description to include extra details.
There are also three options for Miss Scarlet and Mrs. Peacock
ETA: Now that I think of it, the place of worship could be in the story as well not only on the cover.
There are also three options for Miss Scarlet and Mrs. Peacock
ETA: Now that I think of it, the place of worship could be in the story as well not only on the cover.

Category (2) The Suspects
Task (3) - Read a book that has a purple cover or where the main character is a teacher or professor.
Book-Unseemly Honeymoon (Concordia Wells Mysteries) by K. D. Owen
This book meets both task requirements as it has a purple cover and Concordia Wells is a professor. I am not familiar with this author or the series.
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*** Ask any questions in this thread!
• Participants may join at any time during the challenge. The challenge will last from January 1st until December 31st, 2018.
• Definition of historical mystery for this challenge: Any book whose central plot involves a crime of any type (murder, robbery, espionage, etc.) and takes place at any point that is at least 50 years in the past. This includes works set in a time period that is historical from the author’s perspective (for example, The Cadfael Chronicles by Ellis Peters) as well as books written in the past from our perspective and set during the author’s lifetime (for example, Hercule Poirot by Agatha Christie).
GAME RULES:
1. Go to Random.org and put the number of categories (4) in the random number generator. The result will be the category you read from. For example, if the result is number 3 then your category is THE WEAPONS.
2. In the random number generator, put the number of tasks from the category you received in step 1. Read a book for the task that matches the result.
For example, if your category is THE WEAPONS, put 6 in the number generator. If you get 5 as the result, read a book for task #5 in that category.
3. You must finish your chosen book before using the number generator again.
4. Create a personal thread in the CLUE folder to keep track of your categories and tasks. Please make a new post for every task that contains:
a. The category
b. The task
c. The book to be read.
d. Once you have finished the book, create a new post with all the details above AND the date read. You can also add a few comments about the book if you want (this is not compulsory).
6. You can exchange the book that you are reading for another as long as it fits the task. If you decide to exchange books, update the post in your personal CLUE thread.
7. Re-reads and audiobooks are allowed.
9. The aim is to complete ALL of the tasks in all of the categories. If you receive a result for a category and task that you have already completed, you still have to read a book that fits the result*.
* Each task has two options. If you have read books for both options, then you can skip reading the book and use the generator again.
9. The winner is the first participant to complete all of the tasks.
10. Once you complete the challenge, you can start from the beginning.