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Archive 2018 > Week 3: Chapter 17-24: Betrothed

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message 1: by Tracey (new)

Tracey (traceyrb) | 319 comments Mod
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Tracey (traceyrb) | 319 comments Mod
Eveline and De Lacy plight troth but then Archbishop Baldwin intervenes.

This Archbishop was quite a character and was a successor of Thomas a Beckett.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baldwin...

Because of what happened what Beckett the Roman Church had greater hold on the King and his subjects and to go against the wishes of the Church at this time was something few would dare to do. Baldwin preached the Third Crusade in Wales and raised money for it and spent time with Gerald of Wales who wrote the work The Journey Through Wales & The Description of Wales of this time.

Thoughts:
1, The behaviour of Archbishop Baldwin.
2. The actions of Hugo de Lacy.
3. The minstrel and his reference to Isolde and Tristan, being nephew to Isolde's husband King Mark of Cornwall.
4. The behaviour of the Abbess.
5. What is Eveline thinking?


message 3: by Tracey (new)

Tracey (traceyrb) | 319 comments Mod
The Lay of Count of Gleichen is mentioned in this section, a tale of a husband with 2 wives. It is correctly called The Lay of Eliduc and was written by Marie de France and can be found in this work The Lais of Marie de France.

Here is a reference to the Lay

http://www.outremer.co.uk/eliduc.html


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Tracey (traceyrb) | 319 comments Mod
Who was the falconer and who was behind the plot?

The type of falcon mentioned is a gyrfalcon

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gyrfalcon


message 5: by Rosemarie (new)

Rosemarie The scene where Eveline had been placed in the ancient barrow was creepy. What a horrible experience.


message 6: by Tracey (new)

Tracey (traceyrb) | 319 comments Mod
Rosemarie wrote: "The scene where Eveline had been placed in the ancient barrow was creepy. What a horrible experience."

The description of her afterwards was very well done. I would have looked a fright also.


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