Everlasting debate discussion

What is your opinion on Israel in the recent developments in Gaza

WWIII is on the rise!

Yes :o Israel has gone a slippery slope of violence. At least they gave warnings -_-

I think Israel is 100% guilty. Bombing an innocent country, with no defenses, that you already stripped of most of their land? Killing innocent children? They literally took the lives of 4 young boys, whose only offense was playing soccer. They bomb hospitals filled with already hurt kids. They are blowing the heads off of babies, tearing apart families. So far, thousands of people from Gaza died, while ONE Israeli civilian is dead. ONE.
And people are making Gaza seem like the bad guy. -_-

{Just a note-- None of the above is my own thought. Just facts.}

Well, Gaza is bombing Israel. So, they're both guilty

Oh, so self-defense is a crime now? So its Gaza's fault that they are trying to save some of the lives of their own civilians?
If you look at every single one of the (Very few) bombs Gaza launched, NOT ONE attack has been on a crowded place of people, unlike those Isreal is throwing.
Isreal is aiming to kill people, Gaza is trying to keep peace while defending their country.

Self-Defense is crime if you do what's more than necessary

I see your point, but seeing as Gaza is small and croweded, it's hard for Israel to NOT hit a populated area. Not that I'm defending. If Hamas accepted Egypt's ceasefire deal, this would have ended a while ago. Israel was ready to accept. But, alas, violence prevails -_-

aleх: тнe evфlυтιфп вegιпѕ wrote: "Self-Defense is crime if you do what's more than necessary

I see your point, but seeing as Gaza is small and croweded, it's hard for Israel to NOT hit a populated area. Not that I'm defending. If ..."

The reason why Gaza is small and crowded is because Israel stripped them of their land.
And they really didn't do more than nessesary, so its not a crime, and they are not gulity.

Personally, i think Iran needs to step in, and defend Gaza, but if that happens, America will begin to bomb Iran in defense of Israel, and, well, WWIII will probably break out.

Oh dear... Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan •~• Why did we get involved with them?

aleх: тнe evфlυтιфп вegιпѕ wrote: "Oh dear... Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan •~• Why did we get involved with them?"

Not to mention Lebanon.... Israel's bombing Lebanon also...

Gah! DX I'll never think of Israel the same way again >_> What if Jordan gets involved? Peacefully, I mean.

Its not gonna happen. If Jordan were to get involved, it would be on Israel's side, because of the peace treaty they have. However, they wouldn't do that, because of their trade with other Mid-east countries. It would die out and ruin their economy.

Hmm, poor Jordan ._. How about Britain?

I think France will begin to defend Israel (ONLY if USA and Iran get involved), and Britain will turn their backs on France and defend Gaza (Their alliance is very fragile at the moment, could break at any second). The only issue is, this will cause USA and France to stop trade with the Brits, which is a main reason why they might not get involved.

Poo

Hamas fired rockets into Israel how is israel not in the right?

Because, Israel started it, and are doing the majority of the bombing/killing. Seriously, how are you right for brutally murdering kids, who were doing ABSOULTLY nothing wrong? How are you in the right for suddenly deciding, oh, i want this land, let me kill everyone on it and take it over?

Israel left Gaza in 2005 Hamas started attacking Israel out of the blue in fact Hamas uses human shealds (I know it's spelled wrong) israel has warned people in buildings through phone calls, leaflets and through roof nocking and the IDF has even called off airstrikes if there are to many civilians in the area even if they know a Hamas terrorist is in the area, and what has Hamas done attack and kill israeli citizens with only one goal and that is to push israel into the sea

Hamas attacked due to threats in 2005. All that is covered up by news reports.
Do you think Isreal is on the right for murdering children like this? Without warning on this airstrike, might i add.

That is what happens in war civilians die children die, Hamas attacked israel and Hamas had a chance at a cease-fire and they declined and israel is sending aid food water and electricity to the people of Gaza and when israel stopped doing airstrikes so they can have peace talks Hamas fired 500-5000 rockets into Israel, Hamas refuses peace so they can kill more civilians

Hamas is out of weapons right now. They are getting them from Iran. YOu think they want to keep fighting without weapons? Nope.
More common sense rules it untrue.

What are you talking about Hams has attacked IDF soldiers with weapons and are still launching rockets into Israel and IDF soldiers still keep finding rockets in schools and hospitals, Hamas has told people to stand near rocket launching sites when IDF is about to destroy it and there is video proof that IDF has even called off attacks due to to many civilians

I think you need to understand something.
IDF are merciless. They kill without any thought to it.
You can say thats not true, but it really is.
I myself am Lebanese. I was THERE when Israel attacked in 2006. I WATCHED my cousin, who was 11 years old, die in a car bomb. I SAW what they can do to people. I EXPERIENCED how they can ruin lives and think nothing of it.

You can say all you want, believ all you want, but SERIOUSLY?!?!?! just think about it. Why would Israel even start this whole thing? Why would they kill thousands of kids? For GREED. For land that isn't theirs. Tell me, how does that make them right? it DOESN'T.

It's called self defense if you don't want civilians to die then don't attack Israel and newsflash every soldier is merciless it comes with the job a soldiers job is to kill nothing more nothing less but IDF warns people they even send aid to Gaza and the death tool is not in the thousands and Israel GAVE THE LAND BACK TO THE PALISTINIANS 2005 all israeli citizens were evacuated out of Gaza, Gaza is in full Palistinian control

(And in a side note I am sorry about your cousin)

Its immpossible to be under palesitian control, because Palestine isn't a country. Its not on the map.
And who attacked Israel? No one. They struck first each and everytime a major war broke out.

And even the UN is ruling it an israeli fault. They called a ceasefire to figure out a way to stop them.

What are you talking about in 1948 Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Iraq, and Lebanon invaded israel in order to push israel into the sea, israel has been invaded during the Yom Kippur war again with the mission of pushing israel into the sea, and Hamas wants the same thing

And israel has no say in Gaza the Palistinians elect there own people to make laws so it is under palistinian control

To gain the land back that Israel forcibly took from Gaza?
Think of it like this-- If you had a million dollars, were attacked, and it got stolen, what would you do?
Call your friends and the lot of you will try to get it back, doncha think?
same thing.
Israel stole what was rightfully Gaza's, and Gaza just wants it back.

Gaza has had its land sense 2005, and many would argue that it was israeli land but they are not under israeli control the people of Gaza elect there own leaders

Not true. The reason why Gaza srtip is so overpopulated is because they can't live in Isreal

Egypt won't allow Gaza civilians into there country too, also IDF sends aid into Gaza every day

they send aid while bombing?

Yes they do

Well thats interesting.

Oh, i just nearly killed a person. Let me go help save there lives!

And Hamas has committed war crimes, intentionally killing civilians, using human shields, and wearing IDF uniforms to infiltrate and kill IDF soldiers, and storing rockets in hospitals and schools is probably a war crime also

And all of the civilian deaths are by accident rarely ever are they intentional

Where else are they supposed to store the? Israel has them in such a small space, that they can barley go anywhere, even when Israel "warns" of an airstrike

Mitchell wrote: "And all of the civilian deaths are by accident rarely ever are they intentional"

Oh, so when they saw 4 boys pplaying soccer on the beach and bombed them twice, it was an acciednt?

I understand that then don't complain when IDF had to strike an building
And there is an UN investigation going on if it turns out that they killed them then yes I want the people brought to justice but it was probably an isolated incident, and IDF dose not have to warn people they can technically wipe Gaza off the map and it would be legal under international law and there is video evidence of IDF warning people and they come from sources not tied to any government or at all tied to Israel

OK, if u dont wanna hurt anyone, and there is no where to strike w/o hurting anyone, then why strike??

So they can kill the terrorists, and actually the IDF has one of the lowest civilian casualty rates in the entire world

SO suddenly all people from Gaza are terroists?

I never said that, but the civilians get in the way because Hamas forces them there there is video of members of Hamas saying don't listen to IDF warnings and to stay in your house

So, you're saying, Israel is bombing Gaza to get rid of Hamas, right?

Yes but unfortunately civilians die and I don't want to see civilians die as much as you do but I believe that Hamas is to blame

If they want to get rid of Hamas so bad, then why aren't they bombing the Hamas base in Jordan then? Why are they focusing on the minority in Gaza?

Because the rockets are coming from Gaza and most if Hamas is in Gaza or in Syria

Not true. They are based in Jordan. Start at the center if u wanna get rid of something right?