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the last flick I saw was a re-watch of (bits of) John Payne in 'Kansas City Confidential'
co-stars: Lee Van Cleef, Neville Brand
Payne is a marvelous actor for playing 'every day guys you might meet in the street'. You'll find him in noir, crime drama
co-stars: Lee Van Cleef, Neville Brand
Payne is a marvelous actor for playing 'every day guys you might meet in the street'. You'll find him in noir, crime drama
Tonight I saw a little bit of 'Young Cassidy' a film I very much admire. Rod Taylor, Maggie Smith. Dir by Andrew McLaglen, A semi biopic of a young firebrand playwright, Sean O'Falain I believe. Don't hold me to it.
Saw something with young Cliff Robertsion and Joan Crawford last night; subtitled. Robertson was intense. Crawford effective too but a bit miscast. She wasn't as sleek as in 'Mildred Pierce'.
Re-watched 'The Third Man'.
Re-watched 'Diaboliques'. Not much a fan of Simone SIgnoret but her co-star was wonderful in her movements and gestures. Not even an actress, I believe--the directors' wife. Astounding to be so good on her first try. Can't recall her name. Clouzot her last name of course.
Re-watched 'The Third Man'.
Re-watched 'Diaboliques'. Not much a fan of Simone SIgnoret but her co-star was wonderful in her movements and gestures. Not even an actress, I believe--the directors' wife. Astounding to be so good on her first try. Can't recall her name. Clouzot her last name of course.
re-watched 'Thomas Crowne Affair'. Nifty. Sound was off (pub environment). Still worked, even with subtitles.
Director Hall Ashbty went on years later to film Peter Sellers in 'Being There' and that character, (as you know) was a shut-in who grew up watching TV. Ashby cleverly uses footage from 'Crowne' knitted in to the screens for Sellers' character to watch.
Director Hall Ashbty went on years later to film Peter Sellers in 'Being There' and that character, (as you know) was a shut-in who grew up watching TV. Ashby cleverly uses footage from 'Crowne' knitted in to the screens for Sellers' character to watch.
Last week I watched Dead Ringer with Bette Davis and The Lodger. I love Bette Davis and this movie doesn't disappoint. The Lodger is about Jack the Ripper and Merle Oberon is gorgeous in this movie.
re-watched
The Magnificent Seven (1960)
(What can one say? Still brings one's heart into one's throat)
Advise & Consent (1962)
political drama by Otto Preminger. Taken from Allen Drury's Pulitzer winning novel. Henry Fonda, a wispy Franchot Tone, and a thankless role for Gene Tierney. Charles Laughton plays a cagey Southern senator but its really Walter Pidgeon's film. Of all people. Walter Pidgeon getting a role this meaty this late in his career. Well, that's what happened back in the studio era. They weren't afraid of ageing. Also: one of the first films to tackle homosexuality. Preminger was known for this kind of ground-breaking content.
'I Want to Live!' 1958 by Robert Wise. Six Oscar noms, Best Actress for Susan Hayward. Playing a bad girl, she clobbers the performance.
The Magnificent Seven (1960)
(What can one say? Still brings one's heart into one's throat)
Advise & Consent (1962)
political drama by Otto Preminger. Taken from Allen Drury's Pulitzer winning novel. Henry Fonda, a wispy Franchot Tone, and a thankless role for Gene Tierney. Charles Laughton plays a cagey Southern senator but its really Walter Pidgeon's film. Of all people. Walter Pidgeon getting a role this meaty this late in his career. Well, that's what happened back in the studio era. They weren't afraid of ageing. Also: one of the first films to tackle homosexuality. Preminger was known for this kind of ground-breaking content.
'I Want to Live!' 1958 by Robert Wise. Six Oscar noms, Best Actress for Susan Hayward. Playing a bad girl, she clobbers the performance.


I can agree that one might not be a fan of his --he's not suited to everyone's taste--but he certainly could act.
Me, I've never seen 'McLintock'--his late-career roles muddle together in my mind. "Chisum" .."McLintock"..."The Comancheros"..."Cahill, US Marshal"...these all blend together for me. And then he started doing those strange cop roles like "McQ" and "Brannigan". The one flick of note I recall is the fine "The Cowboys" where he gets a great villain to play against: Bruce Dern.
Me, I've never seen 'McLintock'--his late-career roles muddle together in my mind. "Chisum" .."McLintock"..."The Comancheros"..."Cahill, US Marshal"...these all blend together for me. And then he started doing those strange cop roles like "McQ" and "Brannigan". The one flick of note I recall is the fine "The Cowboys" where he gets a great villain to play against: Bruce Dern.
'Anatomy of a Murder' --I'd rave about that pic, on any street corner anywhere, anytime. I've had the Duke Ellington soundtrack on my player for years now. I know some scenes almost word-for-word, cuz I recorded the audio right off the tv speakers too, at some point.

Clint Eastwood in "Hang 'em High"
co-starring Bruce Dern & Ed Begley (always great), Ben Johnson, LQ Jones, Dennis Hopper, and poor Inger Stevens
Eastwood's frst American pic after his audacious career move to Spain to work for Sergio Leone; this was the first pic from his Malpaso company
This was a pic I often saw on TV as a lad, everyone in my household knew it well and could even quote lines from it
McQueen, Eastwood, Bronson, Yul Brynner, James Coburn, Lee Marvin, Ernest Borgnine, Lee Van Cleef... that's what flies, as far as I'm concerned!
co-starring Bruce Dern & Ed Begley (always great), Ben Johnson, LQ Jones, Dennis Hopper, and poor Inger Stevens
Eastwood's frst American pic after his audacious career move to Spain to work for Sergio Leone; this was the first pic from his Malpaso company
This was a pic I often saw on TV as a lad, everyone in my household knew it well and could even quote lines from it
McQueen, Eastwood, Bronson, Yul Brynner, James Coburn, Lee Marvin, Ernest Borgnine, Lee Van Cleef... that's what flies, as far as I'm concerned!
'The Blue Angel' starring Marlene Dietrich and Emil Jannings. Awesome. The classic tale of the vaudeville stripper and the stodgy academic who loses his mind for her. Pretty hilarious film too, especially when the cabaret manager 'pals up' to the distinguished prof.
One mar, there's a 'Pagliacci' type clown in the story (Lola's former suitor) and that was inadvertently unpleasant. I'm not one of those people who find clowns disturbing (dislike magicians far more) but in this case you couldn't see at all what the actor might've been doing with his face, the makeup completely obscured his expression. So it was a 'dead zone' in the acting.
I must say also that its not quite clear to me why Dietrich was considered such a 'honey' in this debut flick of hers. She was very appealing in the role but --my goodness-- her figure is not exactly lissome. She was almost pudgy! As we know she later went on to be one of the biggest stars in history but those memorable cheekbones and cupid's-bow mouth are not in evidence here.
Musical note: the wonderful German swing band, "Weintraub Syncopators" provide the music for this legendary film. I wouldn't guessed it without studying the opening credits.
One mar, there's a 'Pagliacci' type clown in the story (Lola's former suitor) and that was inadvertently unpleasant. I'm not one of those people who find clowns disturbing (dislike magicians far more) but in this case you couldn't see at all what the actor might've been doing with his face, the makeup completely obscured his expression. So it was a 'dead zone' in the acting.
I must say also that its not quite clear to me why Dietrich was considered such a 'honey' in this debut flick of hers. She was very appealing in the role but --my goodness-- her figure is not exactly lissome. She was almost pudgy! As we know she later went on to be one of the biggest stars in history but those memorable cheekbones and cupid's-bow mouth are not in evidence here.
Musical note: the wonderful German swing band, "Weintraub Syncopators" provide the music for this legendary film. I wouldn't guessed it without studying the opening credits.




With Joan, as she aged her appearance was so harsh looking, and she overcompensated with heavy makeup. So, it's visual for me. Katharine Hepburn and Bette Davis are two for whom I have not yet developed a tolerance! With Katherine, over the years I've moved from stage 2 to stage 1, so going backward. Bette is tolerable in her really early years, but as she ages her overacting/emoting gets more pronounced. Rosalind Russell is another one I have difficulty with, but not at the level of Katherine and Bette.
Agreed. All these women are on my 'chilly actresses' list. I posted about it. Taut, thin-lipped, frosty, astringent, rigid. Eleanor Parker and Mary Astor types. Fine actresses but not inviting, engaging, appealing to me personally.

Last week I watched Mr. Skeffington with Bette Davis and Claude Rains. Poor Claude was abused by Bette through two world wars! Her whining voice grated on me the entire two and half hours. The movie was good, and Claude is always outstanding. But he should have packed his bags in WWI.
Aye. Another flick like that is 'Old Acquaintance' (1943) starring Bette and Miriam Hopkins. The story follows two characters across the span of years. It can get slightly tiresome. I mildly enjoyed it upon first view, but would never revisit it. 'Now Voyager',...'Watch on the Rhine'..I admire an era that could generate these stories but they feel slightly stodgy, stagey, and 'airless' nowadays. And I am not even contemporary in my tastes or habits! The world just feels more 'fact paced'. Or maybe relationships just aren't like that anymore, sad to say.
p.s. 'Old Acquaintance' was remade once though-- 'Rich & Famous' with Jackie Bissett and Candy Bergen
p.s. 'Old Acquaintance' was remade once though-- 'Rich & Famous' with Jackie Bissett and Candy Bergen



Just watched High Noon last weekend, hell of a movie, and for a good read on the making of High Noon there is Glenn Frankel's excellent book:
High Noon: The Hollywood Blacklist and the Making of an American Classic

Glenn Frankel
He used to get accosted in the street whenever he visited New York; hotheads would come up to him and want to pay him back for what he did to Maggio..
snatched a brief look at 'Days of Wine and Roses'. Jack Lemmon. Oscar-winning performance. Supported by Lee Remick and Jack Klugman; and I believe Charles Coburn or the patriarch from 'Big Country' who's name I once knew but can't now recall.
Blake Edwards flick; underrated director. He also wrote and directed a ton of radio serials before he hit the movies. That's where he learned his craft.
Blake Edwards flick; underrated director. He also wrote and directed a ton of radio serials before he hit the movies. That's where he learned his craft.




A post WWII movie in France, Lemmon players a highly decorated NCO who can get things done under the nose's of the Officers. The unit is in a few weeks getting ready to break up, Lemmon plan's a ball for the farewell, under the nose of the Kovac's who is out to bust Lemmon, he refurbishes a French Hotel, from other units as far way as Brussel's, he and his merry band of soldiers are apt at getting the supplies, food, drinks, and the band for the event.

I know of both flicks but neither ever caught my intrigue (certainly not the hideous Bette Davis version). I believe though, that the entire basis for the tale are some stories of the great Damon Runyon, America's sublime humorist of gangland life in the 40s. From the same author (ultimately) comes 'Guys and Dolls'. His fiction itself, is based on real-life con men of that era. 'Dave the Dude' (played by Glenn Ford) was indeed the king of Manhattan in those days. 23rd St was his headquarters.

'Dark Passage' written by David Goodis. Bogart & Bacall; but the story is contorted and unappealing to me. I don't enjoy it. There's strange 'POV' camera angles similar to 'The Lady in the Lake' (Robert Montgomery as Marlowe movie).

Read the script for 'Anatomy of a Murder' this week. My god how superb.
Adaptation by Wendell Mayes, who also did another Otto Preminger flick, 'Advise and Consent'.
Adaptation by Wendell Mayes, who also did another Otto Preminger flick, 'Advise and Consent'.

Adaptation by Wendell Mayes, who also did another Otto Preminger flick, 'Advise and Consent'."
I probably should watch that again, Anatomy of a Murder.
It's incredibly 'tight' in the plotting; even Richard Dreyfus commented on this once; (he was studying it for some preparation of his own). An extremely personable story: every facet of the drama turns on human characters; human foibles; human self-awareness. George C. Scott shines as the cunning prosecutor and wonderful Arthur O'Connell as the drunk lawyer crony of Jimmy Stewart. Ben Gazzarra is icy cold as the suspect in the case (possessed by crazy marital jealousy). And of course Lee Remick, you couldn't ask for better than that lilting, giggling, couldn't-care-less voice of hers. But yes overall the camerawork and dialog is back'n'forth, hugging tightly to every slight nuance of the trial in a way that sets a standard for such films. Preminger clobbered this one.
p.s. I've had the Duke Ellington soundtrack CD for years now; its essential listening as far as I'm concerned. First real jazz-based movie soundtrack; score specifically written for the film
p.s. I've had the Duke Ellington soundtrack CD for years now; its essential listening as far as I'm concerned. First real jazz-based movie soundtrack; score specifically written for the film
'Harper' played on TCM Saturday night. Adapted by William Goldman. Paul Newman, Arthur Hill, Lauren Bacall, Shelley Winters, William Windom, the legendary Julie Harris; and a performance from young Robert Wagner which almost steals half the movie. Wagner could play surprisingly intense, almost psychotic characters when he had to. I recall he and Newman became best friends in this flick. Anyway, it all has that quintessential Goldman touch, and was one of Newman's 'three big H' roles. Newman is superb in this, and his love-interest is Janet Leigh, who is appropriately sulky and fiery-eyed. There's also dee-lish cheesecake in the form of Pamela Tiffin. DIr by Jack Smight, story from pulp icon Ross MacDonald.
After that. 'The Mask of Dimitrios' also played. I'd forgotten how much it influenced 'The Third Man'
After that. 'The Mask of Dimitrios' also played. I'd forgotten how much it influenced 'The Third Man'
Oops that was Robert Webber not William Windom. I always get those two guys mixed up.
And there's a hilarious sequence too, with Strother Martin as a religious zealot on a California mountaintop.
And there's a hilarious sequence too, with Strother Martin as a religious zealot on a California mountaintop.
caught a little bit of John Huston's "The Life and Times of Judge Roy Bean" starring Paul Newman and luscious Victoria Principal. Specifically the fun scene where--of all people--Stacy Keach makes a cameo as a crazed, long-haired, one-eyed, albino gunman.

Yeah! Roddy McDowall co-stars as well, I recall. But I generally like any story featuring the colorful Bean.
'The Westerner' with Gary Cooper and Walter Brennan, for example. Gad I love that flick. Brennan stole the whole thing away from Coop.
'The Westerner' with Gary Cooper and Walter Brennan, for example. Gad I love that flick. Brennan stole the whole thing away from Coop.
Fritz Lang's 'Metropolis'
(opening)
Sergio Leone's "The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly"
'Hang 'Em High" --Eastwood fest on TCM
(opening)
Sergio Leone's "The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly"
'Hang 'Em High" --Eastwood fest on TCM
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